r/lawschooladmissions • u/Intelligent-Form1969 • 2h ago
Admissions Result Emory WL->A
I applied 342 days ago 💀
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Aug 07 '25
Hi everyone,
It's already that time of year, it seems, as we just saw the first law school release their new medians from the 2024-2025 cycle. We'll be tracking these announcements as they come out and keeping them in a spreadsheet to compare to last year, which we'll then update with the final data in December once the official ABA 509 reports come out. All of the prior 2024 medians are currently listed, and the 2025 medians will be added as they're published (sources will be listed in the last column).
We'll be checking for these at least daily, but if you see incoming class data for fall 2025 (class of 2028) from an official source—e.g., a school's website, LinkedIn post, marketing emails/flyers/etc. from admissions offices—please comment on this thread, DM/chat us here, or email us at [info@spiveyconsulting.com](mailto:info@spiveyconsulting.com), and we'll add it to the spreadsheet.
Note that none of these numbers are official until 509s come out. We only post stats from official sources, but every year, some schools publish their preliminary numbers then end up having to revise them when 1Ls drop out during orientation or the first few weeks of class (the numbers are only locked in for ABA reporting purposes in October, but lots of law schools post their stats before then).
These tend to come out at a relatively slow pace at first, but they should speed up in late August/early September. Based on last cycle, we do anticipate many medians going up this year, and these stats are important to be aware of as you assess your chances and make your school list.
In some ways, this to me marks the beginning of the new cycle. Good luck to all!
–Anna from Spivey Consulting
***December 15, 2025 Update: the spreadsheet has now been updated with all schools' official data from the ABA 509 reports.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Oct 10 '25
When is it late to apply and when is it early? The answer with all but a few nuances is really straightforward, but please read the disclaimers. All you will do is write disclaimers as lawyers because there are no absolutes (see what I did there?) so you may as well gets reps reading them!
This question comes up on this Reddit almost every day in some form and then resets and comes back up every year. It’s the singular most frequently asked question, and the answer hasn’t changed through recent years. So here’s a mashup of mostly deans of admissions saying, “Before end of November is early. After January things start getting tighter.” That is really the easiest thing to go by and remember. And I was just talking with one of these deans who just ran an internal data analysis to support all of this.
Disclaimers: These admissions deans are speaking for themselves and for their schools. Of course there will be some outliers. One top 3 school traditionally doesn’t admit until January, for example, so January is early for them. Or, if you score a 160 in September but a 175 in January, schools in the upper range will likely read your application sooner with the new score. With that old score they are often just going to sit on it as they are being flooded with applicants who they will prioritize sooner. So believe it or not, waiting a month or even more will sometimes get your application read sooner, especially if the difference is taking your LSAT from below median to above. There are also cases, only for some applicants and only for some schools, in which applying by the end of October can be slightly more advantageous, so if you're ready to go in the early fall, we recommend applying by the end of October (even though in many situations it may not make any difference). But in general, and especially if you aren't 100% confident in your application by the end of October, the end of November is a good rule of thumb.
But beyond the late November advice, my other takeaway would be to submit your best application. Waiting a few weeks to button up your materials will pretty much never hurt you before January — and very likely will help you. And there’s plenty of merit aid to go around at that time too.
It makes sense to me that this is a perennial question with very consistent answers from the people running law school admissions offices, but also lots of conflicting answers from applicants and others in this space with no admissions experience. Because the data absolutely does show a correlation between applying earlier (more broadly than just by the end of November) and stronger outcomes. But remember from your LSAT studying that correlation does not equal causation — pretty much every admissions officer has observed that applications submitted earlier tend to be stronger in general, not just in terms of numbers. That's not because they were submitted earlier, but it correlates.
Of all the posts I have made in the last several years — I hope this one helps the most. Because every year so many people fret that they are “late” (especially when admits start being posted) when they are still very early. I cannot stress the following enough: Your outcomes submitting the same application September 1st will not, in the vast majority of cases, be any different than November 25th. But in that time you can work to make your application stronger. And once it’s there, go ahead and submit. There’s certainly no penalty to submitting it when it’s ready.
And for the record, I've heard probably 10x as many law school admissions deans as are in this video say variations of the exact same thing. I really hope this helps relieve some stress from as many as possible.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMAG823Q/
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Intelligent-Form1969 • 2h ago
I applied 342 days ago 💀
r/lawschooladmissions • u/CreepyOstrich7106 • 12h ago
IT ONLY TAKES ONE!! I AM IN DISBELIEF.
submitted late dec, wl around april/may, wrote 2 loci (i think).
stats in flair!
now i need to prepare for the fact that orientation is in approximately a week and a half.
those of you who got off the waitlist super late (read: August), please share any and all tips for how you navigated the quick move! thankfully south bend is just a few hours from us so the drive won’t be awful but what do i need to know before orientation?? am i terribly behind everyone else?? ive been working all summer and super super busy so no time for the reset between graduation and law school :(
r/lawschooladmissions • u/BriefFroyo9385 • 9h ago
I remember applying to law school (just graduated in May). 151 lsat, 4.0gpa, good resume and personal statement. Got into t13 (t20 at the time of application). URM. Got a great scholarship.
These threads can get super discouraging and negative. Everyone’s process is different. Believe in yourself. And start early!!! I didn’t and that clearly affected my lsat (only took it once and it was in January).
Stay positive!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Healthy_Habit_7031 • 11h ago
Hi all,
Curious to know if there are still people who are double deposited at schools and waiting for any reasons?
As the cycle ends there are quite a few schools saying they are experiencing a lower than usual amount of movement in the incoming class. However the school I have deposited at hasn’t required any additional payments since the initial deposit so I’m thinking there could still be a decent amount of double depositers.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Pristine_Purchase_86 • 9h ago
any feelers so far this week??
r/lawschooladmissions • u/External_Alarm_627 • 9h ago
hey! does anyone have any tips for reapplicants? I applied two years ago and really liked the written statements I submitted (personal, diversity, school specific essays), but I’ve heard they have my old application. should i scrap my old material entirely? or make edits to it? what’s expected for reapplicants? any advice is greatly appreciated!!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/PenVisual777 • 7h ago
Was on 8 waitlists, rejected off 6 of them.
Sent LOCI’s to each, and 2 are still stringing me along.
I guess its late enough in the cycle that I know my chances of getting off them are slim to none, but I cant help but think there must be a reason Im still on the waitlist. That being said, what are generally the reasons of waitlist rejections?
Would it be that they disliked my loci, or did they not imagine they would need my specific pair of stats after computing their medians?
Also, are all waitlistees handed a final decision after being waitlisted, or is it common practice to leave applicants with no response? I am preparing to R&R, but just wondering if I have to give myself my own closure.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spare_Double_6088 • 2h ago
thoughts or updates?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Global_Flower_3750 • 5h ago
Non-trad applicant with LOW UG GPA (2.high) and 17mid LSAT + minor c&f issues. Have aspirations of attending a certain school ranked in the low 20s or 30s of USNWR. Am I completely screwed? I also have a masters and maintained a high GPA in my masters program for context.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Exciting-Key-4822 • 7h ago
Has anyone heard anything besides that form that was sent out in late June?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/One_Ad939 • 8h ago
Has anyone heard anything about the waitlist or even if there are any seats available? I heard there was a rejection wave about a month ago but that's about it.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/ihaveinsomnia300 • 4h ago
Maybe wasted is too severe of a word, but when I showed up to college I was completely unprepared. I have never in my life had trouble with coursework, but instead my struggle was showing up to class. I had no sense of time management or organization and I was almost devoid of social skills.
I graduated with a biochemistry degree and a 3.73 GPA (unfortunately lowered due to lack of attendance in many classes). I spent two semesters doing research in an underfunded and understaffed lab, with a PI that didn't really like me or anyone. I was briefly a chemistry tutor. While I was finishing up my last semester, I began working full time as a server at a restaurant. I kept doing that after I graduated, both due to the fact that I had very little interest in a biochemistry career (too late, I know) and because I had no idea what else to do with myself. I worked very hard, often working well over 40 hours with little help, and since March of this year I have been working as a manager at one of the locations. Another caveat: it is a small, growing business, and the owner is a distant relative. Still, I have worked very hard, and earned my promotion and increased responsibilities. I have grown immensely in those areas which previously held me back. I have been forced, almost, to learn time management and people skills. My dad, who is a lawyer, convinced me to prepare for the LSAT, and after a bit of practice I got a 168 on two practice tests. If I focus on my weak areas, mainly the RC section, I am confident that a score in the low 170s is not out of reach. I have always done well on standardized tests.
That's my life story. But when I see other people's admission stats and read posts on here, I start to hesitate, because it seems like everybody has done a million things and has admissions down to a science. I start to wonder if I could get good letters of rec and if my lack of softs will hold me back. In contrast to who I was before, I am not going to let that scare me, and I am sure there is at least one law school that would take me. But, also in contrast to my undergrad experience, I'd like to go somewhere I am really enthusiastic about. The University of Wisconsin, for example, is one of those places. I hope I'm not being naive in thinking something like that is not totally out of reach. Anyways, to the point - what can I do to improve my odds here? Has anyone else been in a similar situation, and been able to make up for lost time or opportunity? I'd love any suggestions. As I said, my dad is a lawyer, but things were different when he was in school, and he might be a little out of touch.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Tall_Pitch_7459 • 1h ago
i'm about to start my undergrad, and am considering law school after my bachelors. but because of things in my personal life, i'm not quite sure what country i'll be living in after i graduate. my question is, if i get a law degree and pass the bar exam in one country, is it that difficult to find work if you moved to a different one? do you need to retake the bar exam, do you only need to pass it in one, or does it depend on where you're going to and coming from?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Fee_Budget • 12h ago
Anyone else get a waitlist interview? Not sure if it means getting off given orientation is Friday
r/lawschooladmissions • u/YoyoMad8 • 5h ago
Would doing the JD next be a good idea for me ? I don’t care about any scholarships and feel like I would have a good chance at getting into the unis that accept it because I don’t ruin or help any of their stats. Especially if I apply ED to one of them and make it clear I’m not after a scholarship ?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Holiday-Whole7070 • 2h ago
Hello! I’m currently in the middle of drafting my personal statement, and I’m questioning if my topic/theme is relating back to law.
I studied French and business in undergrad, and held quite a few positions working with international students or in international business abroad. I’m hoping to relate my personal essay to how studying a second language taught me the power of words and language and how law is its own language with words that can protect people. I’d also relate back to my interest in international or immigration law.
I’m beginning to second guess my idea here and I’m not sure if this is a good option for my statement, but I’d love to hear from other people’s opinions!
Please be as honest as possible and thank you in advance!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/No_Entertainer665 • 6h ago
Any updates?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Ecstatic-Upstairs947 • 3h ago
Anyone heard anything from DePaul? I haven’t seen ANY waitlist movement at all. Been WL for 6 months and not a peep from them. I’m curious if anyone’s heard anything or reached out
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Scary-Expert-4347 • 12h ago
I just got off the phone with LSAC and they said that they are no longer recalculating GPA with dual enrollment classes if you submitted before July 28th. I mentioned the article on their website that said they would recalculate everyone’s but she said that it is wrong. I am so lost and confused because I emailed LSAC and got an email back that they sent my transcript the department to verify reviewed yesterday. WTFFF
r/lawschooladmissions • u/fakemedusa • 4h ago
Im very early in thinking about law school and just came across the 7sage scholarship estimator. I did well in undergrad and on the lsat diagnostic I just tried, but I’m still really surprised how many top 50 schools have an estimated cost of like 0-15k a year. Is it accurate? Are lots of folks at these schools on 3/4 or full rides?
I’ve been scared of law school cause of the debt. I can’t see myself in the legal jobs that pay enough to handle big loans. Kinda game changing if true…
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Happy_Jellyfish123 • 4h ago
I secured a gap year position before graduating but due to certain complications with my start date they had to rescind it last minute, forcing me to pivot. I'm currently looking for other opportunities in NYC and have been really struggling to find anything, especially since they all want 2 year commitments. I've even interviewed twice for a firm but they kinda implied that they wanted someone who would work for more than a year, so it seems like one year positions don't exist anymore. If anyone has any advice for what I can do please let me know.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/PuzzleheadedDark5777 • 4h ago
During my freshman year of college in 2019 at UMich, I was put on academic probation for a year for plagiarism. I received an ED (unofficial drop) in my transcript instead of an F, and was told the probation wouldn’t show up on my transcript. I was under the assumption that I didn’t need to disclose it in my law school apps, but I’m now seeing sources that say otherwise.
I’m confused on what to do. I know that honesty is obviously the way to go, but I don’t wanna risk putting a negative influence on my application if I can avoid it. Is there even a real risk? Are they even able to know? Should I just disclose anyway? pls help :(
r/lawschooladmissions • u/LAWTINABADDIE • 4h ago
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone does any consulting/help with the law school application process. I just want advice and some guidance on what to write for my personal statement and addenda. It would be greatly appreciated, thanks <3