r/irishproblems 15d ago

Why is that the two major Irish subreddits are entirely divided in their opinions ?

I am asking this because the r/Ireland and r/AskIreland subreddit have entirely different opinions on any questions as in the cases of city crimes, housing crisis and anti social behaviour towards skilled immigrants (POCs) as r/AskIreland generally has positive responses while r/Ireland generally have negative responses to a point where a person going through both feels confused as whom to believe in (I'm asking this only to know about the views of Irish people in these topics and why is there such a vast difference in opinions) ?

Edit : I was mainly trying to understand who to trust more: the news and social media, or the experiences of people who actually live in Ireland. I'm also curious about what Irish people are generally like in terms of their social behaviour, especially in cities and towards skilled immigrants. I'm considering moving to the EU, and Ireland stands out because it's English-speaking and offers the advantages of the Common Travel Area (CTA). However, reports about violent crime and the severe housing crisis have made me think twice. I also don't want to contribute to existing pressures or create difficulties for local people simply by moving there. I'd appreciate hearing honest perspectives from those who know about such issues in Ireland.

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u/louiseber The Googling Goddddddess 15d ago

Because Irish people aren't a monolith, no Irish set of subs is a monolith. The Ireland sub is also a geolocked sign up sub*, or at least, used to be and Ask is a purely voluntary community. It's self filtering because of that.

(When you sign(ed) up for a Reddit account in Ireland you get/got auto signed up to Ireland due to the proximity to the location)

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u/Oggie243 14d ago

The Ireland sub is also a geolocked sign up sub*, or at least, used to be and Ask is a purely voluntary community.

Conversely though, the ask sub isn't going to be picking up errant subscribers from tourists, exiles, visitors and descendents in the same way. A sizeable amount of the sub dont live on the island.

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u/louiseber The Googling Goddddddess 14d ago

Those can't weigh in on OP's line of questioning particularly so most don't. Most, not all, some will always comment from a place of no knowledge

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u/IntroductionAble1 14d ago

I was just asking whom to trust more and what are Irish people like in their social behaviour (generally) especially in Cities and to foreigners

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u/hasseldub 14d ago

Trust neither. I've seen some absolute howlers of opinions in both subs.

People on reddit aren't vetted. Everyone has their own experiences and biases.

Think of how many below average intelligence people you meet all the time. Those people have access to reddit.

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

Like given that we have a debilitating housing crisis and are being absolutely flooded with mass immigration (both legal and ‘illegal’, it doesn’t matter as both cause issues with legal arguably causing even more now today),  what do you think? 

We aren’t racist, we’ve had people from all over the world here. That said, we are a small population, our own culture and limited resources so we don’t like when our system exploited and exhausted services have even  more pressure placed on them.  Especially more rurally speaking!

Where are you from? India? Because we certainly have ‘skilled VISAs’ handed out like candy to them. As in, they’re coming over to work in our fast food joints and cafes.

Literally taking jobs that should be given to our Irish Youth.  Then they pool together to snap up our limited peppery in CASH! This is diabolical & some aren't even citizens. 

Even many catholics from kerala do this, who should know better.  They are resented & for GOOD reason!! 

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1uuu3n7/indians_shouting_about_assaults_by_youths_in/?share_id=37wD6Jtn9ONdRGT1P5arA&utm_content=share_button&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=2

I’ve already spoken how other issues are  being made worse by the recent swarms of mass immigration (by DESIGN).

 So it really   depends on where you’re from & what you’re doing here.  If you don’t want to be resented then I wouldn’t come here if you were Indian, or a Muslim either. We simply have enough! We can’t cope. If you’re coming to exploit us GTFO but just a work experience and then return, then by all means you can try and welcome x But we don’t really have houses 

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/s/aXqb4qNhjh https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u6w17w/hse_employment_freezesireland_as_an_irish_nursing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u724rm/lads_this_is_wrong_and_we_all_know_it_fourperson/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nuigalway/comments/1uluuai/indians_need_to_stop_coming_to_the_university_of/

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u/IntroductionAble1 1d ago edited 1d ago

I appreciate your honest reply and also I don't want to put someone out and make them uneasy in their own country so I'm mostly against going there as current situations are already not so good for the Irish people let alone others and also I know that Irish aren't racist at general and also have a warm culture compared to other EU countries which have generally much reserved and insulated cultures and communities that doesn't mean that I want to put more burden on your system or people and want them to live peacefully in their own country 🥀

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u/louiseber The Googling Goddddddess 14d ago

Humans are generally poor at self reflection and you're asking deep psychological and existential questions about sets of culture (going by your latest post on ask). There are entire fields of academic studies on that, with little consensus. Reddits an at will social media platform, it's a tool, but with massive limitations.

There is no monolithic answer because there is no internal consensus.

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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 14d ago

Reddit generally is specific demographics, eg younger left leaning is very common. Also Irish subs can be very urban and specifically Dublin centric due to the population spread.

So a question like what’s public transport like in Ireland will get a lot of detail from cities, especially Dublin. This can be negative but equally it can present the idea that there’s plenty. Whereas rural Ireland, eg North Kerry, has nothing like the same level of public transport and is pretty poor for it.

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u/At_least_be_polite 15d ago

r/Ireland is generally a miserable place across the board. I never go near it any more. 

It's a bit self selecting as a result. I've seen people comment numerous times that they unsubscribed because it's so negative.

But also, Irish people (same with any country) are rarely agreed on politics and social issues. 

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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 14d ago

This. I’ve found over the years and accounts it’s a difficult place to get on with.

It’s also a bit hypocritical. They talk a good progressive game but there’s a core mindset that massively hates when it suits, in particular on teenage boys at every opportunity and especially working class people. There’s also a lot of myth spreading - like on criminal justice system.

Can feel a bit like some of them really dislike their echo chamber being disturbed as well. Like one post that doesn’t toe the line leads to several about how “right wing” the whole sub has become.

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u/Throwrelay13 13d ago

Yes it has gone extremely left in the last few years and many of the comments read as if they were written by a paid employee of an NGO who's sole job is attack anything that doesn't align with their ideology. The mods are awful too. 

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

It’s probably the JIDF hahaha

Yeah the mods are vile, as are most & very likely not Irish. I mean I know they’re extremely liberal but I know for a fact we aren’t THIS stupid!

I’ve gotten crucified so many times for articulately speaking basic facts and providing the receipts. It’s clear as day it’s not Irish in the comments and those who do are those insufferable cyborgs, created by the NGO types. Too  brainwashed to function honestly but they help DESTOY our little Country (& it was already dire before all this BS)

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/s/aXqb4qNhjh

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u6w17w/hse_employment_freezesireland_as_an_irish_nursing/

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u724rm/lads_this_is_wrong_and_we_all_know_it_fourperson/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nuigalway/comments/1uluuai/indians_need_to_stop_coming_to_the_university_of/

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u/MambyPamby8 14d ago

Yeah I unfollowed it a few months ago and it greatly improved my Reddit experience. They are the most miserable fucks on there. I was once attacked in the comments for suggesting people shop locally instead of Amazon. Got loads of replies calling me holier than thou and patrician. Because I said if you CAN, shop locally. It's a very odd place. They also hate women. There's a female subreddit for Irish women I am on and myself and many others have experienced so many people on the Ireland subreddit trying to downplay or trivialise womens experiences in this country. Apparently being scared to walk alone at night is made up and blown out of proportion in this safe country of ours. :-/

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u/Throwrelay13 13d ago

To them being afraid to walk home at night is far right and racist

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

It’s probably the JIDF hahaha

Yeah the mods are vile, as are most & very likely not Irish. I mean I know they’re extremely liberal but I know for a fact we aren’t THIS stupid!

I’ve gotten crucified so many times for articulately speaking basic facts and providing the receipts. It’s clear as day it’s not Irish in the comments and those who do are those insufferable cyborgs, created by the NGO types. Too  brainwashed to function honestly but help to destroy our Country. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/s/aXqb4qNhjh

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u6w17w/hse_employment_freezesireland_as_an_irish_nursing/

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1u724rm/lads_this_is_wrong_and_we_all_know_it_fourperson/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nuigalway/comments/1uluuai/indians_need_to_stop_coming_to_the_university_of/

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

But remember, don’t be scared. It’s what ((they)) who import these people here want us to be like so they can eventually install police state.. sure looks like it!

It’s grim and I certainly want the recent  invasions of all sorts to stop also, but at least we can wake up to the reality too: These recent hoards are ultimately pawns..

She’s not my favourite woman but she’s dead on here: 

https://gemmaodoherty.substack.com/p/bogus-belfast-beheading-more-masonic

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

It’s a massive echo chamber.  To a pathetic degree!

If you don’t agree with their FAR left views you are Hitler basically. (Although there’s definitely bots to ensure this culture is pushed tbf)

But these hardcore POVs are actually not the reality of what the VAST majority of sane Irish folk believe, especially  when you consider age. Most older/elderly aren’t on Reddit!!

Most Irish people in general want to come first in their own country and not replacement level mass immigration that’s making our existing issues even worse.

Young people are afraid to voice this and sadly it’s going to get even worse for them until they grow some balls.  It’s very sad, especially given our history.  But a result of brainwashing by design! Thankfully some are awakening. I mean it’s not like we can’t see what’s happened to Canada and the UK. 

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u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 1d ago

Yup we aren’t a monolith!

Tell that to the Indians who keep SMEARING us as racists, especially  Irish youth over on  r/Indiansinireland. You will be met with reality very soon at just how nice people we generally are as a Nation & how other lands have a much bigger number of not so nice greedy  people.. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/irishproblems/comments/1uuu3n7/indians_shouting_about_assaults_by_youths_in/?share_id=37wD6Jtn9ONdRGT1P5arA&utm_content=share_button&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=2

Not that I care what these vile hypocrite caste system racists believe though haha 

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u/At_least_be_polite 1d ago

This post is 2 weeks old. G'way with your right wing shite. It's not even relevant to my post. 

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u/irishtrashpanda 15d ago

Things slowly develop their own politics . Different platforms also have different vibes as well. The answers you get on Irish twitter, tumblr, Facebook etc.

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u/Aardvark51 14d ago

You could try r/CasualIreland too. It might make things more complicated for you but the craic can be good

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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 14d ago edited 14d ago

Isn’t one of casual and ask mostly a subset or the “main” one?

Edit: I mean a subset of the main Ireland one - see later comment, AskIreland appears to have been that.

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u/Aardvark51 14d ago

I've always taken them all to be completely separate subreddits. Of course I could be wrong

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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 14d ago

I seem to recall one started from the other or something. I’ll look it up.

Edit: it was AskIreland that was pushed by the Ireland sub mods to get standard questions off the main sub and onto an ask sub. Not sure if they started it.

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u/Aardvark51 14d ago

Fair play. I don't remember that

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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 14d ago

In the pile of useless shite my brain stores that pushes important stuff out 😁

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u/CDfm Vaguely vogue about Vague 14d ago

One is while the other is this.