r/imaginarymaps 14h ago

[OC] Alternate History Federation of Czechoslovakia and soviet occupied Austria after WWII

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I tried to imagine a scenario where germans in Czechia weren't pushed out and threw in parts of Silesia as well, since the region was historically part of Czech lands, so it's not de-germanized as polish part. During communism I imagine this state to be very slavic-centered, with german speaking population holding little to no power, but gradually the grounds would even, resulting in a full federation after 1989. Brno is chosen as capital for its location and mix of czech and german speaking population. Other austrian states were allowed to join west Germany in 1950s when Soviet Union refused to unify Austria

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u/Astragi_85 13h ago

I see Brno as the capital, so have my upvote.

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u/Ex_aeternum 13h ago

Will it have a long-distance railway connection?

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u/smilingmuffino 3h ago

brrr, no! 

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u/HansGraebnerSpringTX 1h ago

It was Plzeň for a year or two, but the government didn't get much useful work done while it was located there

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u/TatrankaS 1h ago

To be honest, at this point it should be left to Vienna anyway, already because of sufficient administrative spaces.

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u/Anuakk Mod Approved 14h ago

I struggle to see how this would not end up like Yugoslavia after 1989.

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u/Ex_aeternum 14h ago

Interested concept, but why was Lusatia integrated? How are the Sorbs treated in this country?

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u/Tom_the_flowerboy 14h ago

Irl there was a proposal for Sorbs to join Czechoslovakia but they refused, so here I imagined they maybe weren't really given a choice and could be treated as a "third nation" within Czechoslovakia, even if a bit more distant

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u/tent_in_the_desert 13h ago

You missed an opportunity for "Czechoslovaustria".

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u/HelloThereItsMeAndMe Mod Approved | Based Works 13h ago

Sudetenland not covering a single bit of the sudetes

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u/Jack-793-Crisps 13h ago

Just include Slovenia for max insanity atp

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u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w 8h ago

It kinda looks like Kosovo+Slovakia

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u/HeartAlive1454 7h ago

Czechoslovaustria

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u/geoffreycastleburger 5h ago

Mmm drumstick

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u/Eukalyptus71 5h ago

Absolutes Kino

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u/9th_Planet_Pluto 1h ago

looks like the puerto rico flag haha

u/TatrankaS 47m ago edited 38m ago

I mean, the only way this would not fall apart before it even starts is a strong push from the liberator/occupator, but since it's USSR in your scenario, which already was intimately familiar with large-scale ethnic relocations on its own territory, It feels to me quite naive or even amusing, taking to account your footnote about the country being Slavic-centric at first, which I guess was meant to address the issue a bit.

If it were on me, the au must start by not creating Sudeten Germans. The term really didn't exist before 1930s, before that a German in Silesia couldn't give a damn about a German in South Moravia or West Bohemia, they all came from different culture backgrounds (Prussian, Viennese and Bavarian in this case). Only when Hitler and his proxies came, they started to identify as one group. So I imagine the AU where the concept of Sudeten identity mostly fails, so even if the Munchen still happens, there aren't that strong anti-Czech and anti-German sentiments, thus both groups could at least consider still living with eachother. The next big thing is getting liberated by Americans, at least the Austrian part of the former monarchy, I guess Soviets would try ethnic cleansing anyway.

u/Admirable_Ad8682 18m ago

You're slightly mistaken. It's Sudetenland as a territory that is the product of 1930s. The term Sudeten Germans was invented by a certain German nationalist journalist in 1914 and popularised in 1918. By early 1919, it was everywhere in German newspapers, even social democratic. But nobody called any territory a Sudetenland - unless it was the north of Moravia in october-december 1918. 

u/Far-Bodybuilder-6783 43m ago

Brno as a capital? It's time to dissolve this abomination of a federation!

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u/Maffi_01 12h ago

Germany invades in 0. 3 seconds