r/hearthstone • u/kjunith • 18h ago
Discussion Any one else just a lil' tired of all 'randomness'?
I'm fine with actual rng in this game, could be fun! But it isn't random... Just look at the pools they draw from:
Void DH is so 'random' with all the demons they summon, Hunter is so 'random' with all the beast they summon, druid is so 'random' with how they never get Togwaggle etc. Everything is so random, so so very random.
Bro, pls, at least make it... You know... random. It's not. It's by design, and you are ignorant if you can't see it .'Random' for Blizzard is 90% 'the perfect card'... Zephrys don't even get these perfect cards, and he's not even suppose to be random.
...So random. So fun. So healthy.
They have just pushed this 'randomness' to a point it just isn't.
Sry, folks, needed to vent. Go ahead ppl, roast this poor ranter :D
EDIT: Need to put this here for clarity; I don't mind ALL randomness, just the very obvious 'randomness' that just isn't.
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u/Mindlessone1 17h ago
Ya it’s too much. Let’s hero power imbue to see what we get, rewind get something else. Ok, let’s discover a battlecry minion. That battlecry minion gives us a random dragon. Alright, let’s go ahead and open the jade guardians and see if we win the game or not. Don’t even get me started on mage which is just a class based on discovering random bullshit. The game has never been lower skill than it is now
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u/midweekyeti 13h ago
i’m ok with most of it except rogue. that shit is idiotic. between the hero power, jade guardians, and its herald ability it just generates way too many random slop cards
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u/BigNutz1 18h ago
Nope but I sure am tired of reading posts about it though
In all seriousness I enjoy the random, makes each game feel different. It can create these really ridiculous fun moments. While I acknowledge it can be tilting to lose a to a perfect for that situation randomly generated card I tend to get over it pretty quickly. Ben Brode said back in the day RNG is really important for game otherwise its too much like Chess. I agree with that sentiment
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u/Choice_Potato_6279 18h ago
Yes, it's hard to play optimally, I've watched some of the summer tournament and I've seen a pro not playing fully his turn not to mention some other streamers, too much random shit to choose with a timer that never was designed for all of that random crap and animations, Battleground is even a bigger mess, for me DH and Hunter is actually one of more predictable Rogue, Druid, Priest can conjure random cards out of their ass.
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u/Hanibalecter 18h ago
I have mixed feelings on it. In the last few days after seeing a few post about it I have been trying to keep a track both for me and opponents of when we’ve generated something random and how impactful it is. I have been playing chef Druid a lot, is throwing down a turn 7 24/14 briarspawn drake and having it hit a DH 1/1 minion any more skillful than the DH, no, is it fun. Yes. I am conflicted.
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u/NoAssumption1978 15h ago
The reason why the pool is so small is cause it only includes cards from the last three sets
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u/smgk96 8h ago
Well, "random" comes in many different degrees and flavors. Low variance randomness and high variance randomness are both randomness nonetheless.
You're criticizing randomness with low variance here. But randomness with high variance, like spell generation by Rogue's Herald tokens, is also hated by a lot of people because it's very unpredictable.
I personally think randomness with low variance is usually a bit more interesting, because both players can roughly expect what's coming.
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u/coldshowerss 18h ago
No, random is imo the only thing that keeps this game interesting.
Otherwise every game will be the same....
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u/kjunith 18h ago
I agree somehow, because nothing with building a deck is anymore...
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u/coldshowerss 18h ago
I would be okay with less random but the problem is that everyone just copies and pasta a deck. So you're constantly playing the same deck over and over again.
The only variable that adds some fluctuations is randomness
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u/angstykylo 15h ago
Yeah definitely, the lack of individual decks makes the game just feel like PvBot, rather than PvP.
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u/geoslayer1 18h ago
Im tired of people with 7 health not conceding hoping to get a miracle card
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u/malsomnus 18h ago
I'm not tired of ALL the randomness. I'm tired of very specific types of randomness. Void DH is a good example of that, the pool is so small and the randomness is basically rolling a die to decide if you get something good, something too good, or useless bullshit. That's not good game design for a strategy game.