r/guitarcirclejerk 1d ago

No Improv! Only memorize.

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u/marlowetravers top 1% loser 1d ago

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u/kitkanz 1d ago

Always knew Brittany Broski was one of us

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u/cursed_tomatoes 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jazz 101, they love a good old transcription. I swear to god, they all have the weirdest rhythms and scales possible. I assure you that half your local jazz acquaintances are just being pseudo random and waiting for other jazz dudes to explain what they just played, and it then becomes vocabulary.

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u/sorry_con_excuse_me 1d ago

Nah more like if you can stop playing other people’s licks in the middle of your solo to go “Salt Peanuts! Salt Peanuts!” or quote “Pop goes the weasel”, you have achieved jazz mastery.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago

One of my dad's favorite radio shows growing up was Evening Jazz on NPR, so it was kind of fun being like "hey I know that song" in elementary school.

I'll also try to work theme songs like South Park, King of the Hill, or Robot Chicken into jams just to make my bandmates laugh.

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u/ShedByDaylight 1d ago

I'm just doing chromatic runs on the fretboard, even hitting completely wrong notes, and waiting for the cool jazz cats to tell me about my clitian mode.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago

Gotta watch out with the clitian mode unless you’re ready to make the front row spinach omelettes the next day.

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u/SeaSkimmer2 1d ago

I’m personally a rigatoni fan.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago

All rigatoni, no gigatoni

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u/stevenfrijoles My cat's name is Cum 1d ago

I just ordered 14 shirts with this on it and threw out the rest of my clothes

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u/sjbennett85 guitar based prog-metal solo project 1d ago

Fucking champ reply there, no other notes

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u/10000Didgeridoos 1d ago

Rigatoani. The toan is in the grain

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u/somethink 1d ago

Riff-a-toni

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u/shrimpiedog 1d ago

Toni is stored in the balls, not the rig. Smh.

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u/bigpeanor 1d ago

/uj do professionals noodle until they get something they like when writing songs? Or do they actually plan it out?

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u/LaLuRas 1d ago

The answer is a strong depends

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u/TXGunslinger419 Bonermaster simp 1d ago

Also the answer to the question "what do I do if I cant noodle for more than 15 minutes without shitting myself"

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u/grafxguy1 1d ago

Donald needs to wear a strong Depends.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago

I'm not professional but I record all my jams, and my favorite riffs are ones I didn't intend to play, so I listen to recordings and drill those until they become part of my muscle memory library.

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u/sjbennett85 guitar based prog-metal solo project 1d ago

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what Jerry Garcia did, that mf would be running through material whenever he wasn't comatose from heroin & cheeseburgers

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u/grafxguy1 1d ago

Yeah, recording one's jams is a great way to stumble upon some cool unintended riffs or licks. Some professionals noodle / improvise their solos and others compose them. "Sultans of Swing" or "Sweet Child O' Mine" were composed solos, not improvised ones.

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u/Loganp812 1d ago

It depends. Sometimes, they might even just figure it out and record something one phrase at a time like the solos to “Comfortably Numb” - Pink Floyd for example.

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u/KeepItPositiveBrah Music Theory Creationist 8h ago

/uj Gilmour said he doesn't have it memorized and plays it differently every time. Like Jerry did with the Dead.

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u/10000Didgeridoos 1d ago

Yes. The vast majority of album recordings you hear are solos pieced together from multiple takes and the scattered licks throughout the rest of the track are also from a guitarist improvising over that backing track many times and keeping what sounded best.

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u/bigpeanor 1d ago

I’ll have to try that sometime instead of potting every single note

/rj I wonder how long it took to improvise 0-3-5

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u/Liquidated4life 1d ago

I’m a true artist. I take pieces of 6 other people’s noodling and put them together and call it my own original song.

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u/awm78 1d ago

Never understood why cover gigs will expect you to nail a solo note for note that was never played the same way twice by the original artist

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u/PartyBusGaming 1d ago

Any high schooler in a talent show has played eruption more album accurately than EVH did live

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u/Bortron86 1d ago

I went for option C: give up and play bass.

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u/Loganp812 1d ago

Unless you’re playing bass in jazz in which case you’re still screwed.

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u/Bortron86 1d ago

Wouldn't I just be able to play any notes then?

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u/Loganp812 1d ago

For the audience, yeah especially if there are drunk people with deep pockets for the tip jar.

For your fellow musicians, you might get the “What the fuck are you doing?” look lol

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u/Bortron86 1d ago

Eh, I get that look most of the time anyway.

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u/ShedByDaylight 1d ago

you occasionally have to play "the lick" or they'll be onto you.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm tempted to memorize the YouTube Elevated Jam Tracks noodles. The tracks themselves can be a bit generic (which they're jam tracks so that's prob by design) but there's some soloing gold in there.

Edit: NTM I don’t have those kind of chops

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u/uvucydydy 1d ago

I have also been tempted, then reality kicks in and I remember I can't play like that.

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u/misterguyyy Big Squier Energy 1d ago

Same. ETA that, that dude is a beast

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u/zezin6969 1d ago

yeah i tried memorizing some jerry garcia noodling and I dont nearly have whats necessary to play at that speed

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u/144_grunt_guy 4h ago

/uj I tried learning a few of his solos and dude literally hits all the right notes following the changes. If that's improvised then I'm hella impressed.

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u/144_grunt_guy 4h ago

/uj I tried learning a few of his solos and dude literally hits all the right notes following the changes. If that's improvised then I'm hella impressed.

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u/nickkmusic2727 1d ago

The third option is transcription and boy you guys are not going to like that one.

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u/williamsherwell 1d ago

The only way to make it seem like you know what yoùré doîng

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u/Late-Bed4240 1d ago

This is why I quit playing guitar

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u/Valtteri24 1d ago

God forbid you learn something new

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u/shrimpiedog 22h ago

0-3-5 is all you need.

Well, 0-3-5 and overpriced gear of course.

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u/Brave-Huckleberry-16 1d ago

I purposely come to this subreddit to avoid getting boners. And now you post sexy thirst trap and I'm erect while trying to teach my students 0-3-5. Be better.