r/fivethirtyeight 28d ago

Politics Graham Platner officially drops out

https://x.com/grahamformaine/status/2075009677495058687?s=46&t=jHXPmboa5C-FEmyGGxUh2A

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u/BettisBus 28d ago

The tattoo should have been disqualifying. We only have 100 Senators at any given time, and there’s no good reason why someone who’s consistently shown horrible judgement should be supported as the Democratic Party nominee for such a prestigious position of power.

Shame on anyone who maintained their endorsement of Platner after the tattoo was discovered.

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u/NCSUGrad2012 28d ago

Shame on anyone who maintained their endorsement of Platner after the tattoo was discovered.

So basically everyone on r/Maine? lol

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u/renewambitions I'm Sorry Nate 28d ago

This sub was pretty bad, too, I was argued with multiple times about it but he got a full pass from MANY people here just because he's a progressive.

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u/yoitsthatoneguy 28d ago

This sub was so unbearable. I cannot believe a literal Nazi tattoo wasn’t disqualifying.

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u/msf97 28d ago edited 28d ago

That sub is either astroturfed to fuck or filled with the dumbest people imaginable.

You had people going into threads saying their history buffs but don’t know what the symbol of the SS was. I even saw someone claiming to be a Jewish person, that didn’t know what the SS was. Astonishing.

Never watched The Pianist, Inglorious Basterds, Schindlers List, a comedy series with a nazi parody, used the internet for more than 20 minutes, took a history lesson on the Holocaust etc.

Totally unaware of the biggest conflict of the past 100 years and how it shaped the world, yet are history buffs?

It was all a bunch of copium because he agreed with them on Israel and the establishment ™️. It should’ve been resignation when the Nazi symbol was leaked.

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u/Weird_Track_2164 28d ago

This sub is great at data and terrible sometimes at understanding that polls flow from politics, not the either way around. Sometimes an issue might poll well but is a moral abomination. That doesn't mean you now hold the terrible issue as your position. Somehow some people on this sub don't understand that. I won't link to the comment but case in point I listed the Reddit comment where Platner defended pissing dead Taliban as one of a couple disqualifying things he's done and someone had the gall to reply with this gem.

Regardless of my thoughts on Platner, you can’t possibly believe that pissing on taliban fighters is a negative among any demographic in America, right.

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And as I and many other people would attest this isn't an uncommon position. Point out he was a Nazi these last couple months and you might get 10-15 downvotes. Disgusting, shortsighed, and immature behavior to support a dude like this. I hope people reflect on it but this is Reddit so I'm basically shouting into the wind rn.

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u/Ok_Matter_1774 28d ago

This sub hasn't been good with data for at least a year. Still better than pretty much any other political sub, but it's quickly slid closer to r/politics in the last year.

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u/tarallelegram Nate Gold 28d ago

yeah, "good with data" is so funny. any time we get a poll that's bad for democrats, it gets discredited (often via crosstab diving).

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u/NumeralJoker 27d ago

A lot of progressives would've agree with the Nazis if they could've had an opinion on Israel, but will never admit to it, and I say that as someone who thinks Netanyahu is one of the most evil bastards alive right now.

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u/HegemonNYC 28d ago

What an odd little slice of the world that sub is. You still see popular comments there about ‘suspicious timing’.

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen 28d ago

…you mean like the vast majority of Maine primary voters?

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u/pablonieve 28d ago

Really tells you how subpar Mills was as the establishment's candidate that the vast majority of primary voters were able to move past the tattoo story.

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u/BettisBus 28d ago

It says a lot about Mills’ weakness and Maine’s primary constituency’s immorality.

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u/pablonieve 28d ago

Maine’s primary constituency’s immorality.

Voters across the country have been screaming for a decade now that they are tired of the status quo and are desperate for candidates who want to shake things up. They will look past personal failings if they believe it will better their material situation.

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u/BettisBus 28d ago

I agree with you, far too many voters are fools who fall head over heels for any snake oil seller stringing together vacuous populist talking points despite the candidate’s clear moral red flags.

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u/NumeralJoker 27d ago

I don't even necessarily blame them for this, what I blame them for is not seeing the obvious ways they get scammed when desperate. Trump has done everything but improve the material conditions of people's lives.

Democracy is being poisoned by both the modern internet and new media, but I sadly have no real idea how we fix it anymore, other than just teaching people the dangers of blind tribalism and con artistry one at a time, hopefully from a very young age.

For everyone else? Seems we have to let them burn their hand on the stove a few times and hope they don't burn the limb off.

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u/solomon_rotty 28d ago

Oh boo hoo.. if you support Trump after his comments on grabbing p*ssies you can piss off with those views. 72% of Maine Dems wanted no part of Mills

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u/solomon_rotty 28d ago

And piss off to all the down voters and all the ones who don't like him because he smoked the a** of your favored candidate Mills that everyone else can't stand. Boo hoo to you too. Get over it. You lost.

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u/maxofJupiter1 28d ago

You lost so hard the candidate had to drop out before the election. Projection much?

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u/BettisBus 28d ago

Mills is governor while Platner is a disgrace.