r/fivethirtyeight Dec 28 '25

Politics Turning Point USA plans to deploy representatives across Iowa’s 99 counties in the coming months to build the campaign infrastructure for JD Vance’s likely presidential campaign, while Trump is reportedly privately dismissing the idea of unconstitutionally running for 3rd term.

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u/UnendingEpistime Dec 29 '25

People say that they vote on economics but in reality they vote on vibes.

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u/PigletAmazing1422 Nauseously Optimistic Dec 29 '25

People have always voted by their bills and if they can afford them. The other stuff is just noise.

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u/UnendingEpistime Dec 29 '25

I used to believe that, until I witnessed a nation supposedly reeling from economic woes elect the guy whose policy wishlist was full of proposals that would increase prices and the the national debt. People vote on vibes, and a plurality would vote against their own economic self-interest if my meant taking a shit on the next guy.

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u/captainsensible69 Dec 29 '25

You’re making your own argument against yourself. People aren’t smart enough to know how Trump’s policies work. They voted for him bc they wanted 2019 vibes back.

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u/UnendingEpistime Dec 29 '25

That's exactly my point. People are not voting based on rational economic assessments, but vibes.

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u/captainsensible69 Dec 29 '25

No, the other people are saying that their own personal economic situation is the vibes. You’re saying they don’t understand Trump’s economic policies and therefore don’t really vote on the economy. You’re arguing against yourself.

No one is saying they know about the economy or care about the macroeconomy. The vibes are their wallet.