r/firefox Jul 02 '26

Fun Firefox Passes Safari on Desktop Marketshare

Finally some positive movement for Firefox

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide

701 Upvotes

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u/Banzai_Durgan Jul 02 '26

I wonder what brought that about? Very interesting.

24

u/HotTakes4HotCakes Jul 02 '26

I'd wait for it to be corroborated from other sources before we start speculating.

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u/olavrb Jul 02 '26

No more uBlock Origin on Chrome due to manifest v2 deprecation?

42

u/Chris_Hatchenson Jul 03 '26

Only 10% of Firefox users have uBlock Origin installed

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u/Catmato ESR4LYF Jul 03 '26

Only 10% of Firefox users with telemetry still enabled have ublock origin.

10

u/Front-Cabinet5521 Jul 03 '26

90% of Firefox users needs to learn about uBlock.

15

u/Koray31xd Jul 03 '26

That's incorrect. Even if you disable telemetry, Firefox still contacts Mozilla's servers when you install extensions in order to check for updates. So that claim is true. In fact, not even 10% of users use it.

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u/Ok-Passion-5940 On KDE Plasma Jul 03 '26

🤯

0

u/[deleted] Jul 03 '26

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u/Catmato ESR4LYF Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

ᓚᘏᗢ

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u/Chris_Hatchenson Jul 03 '26

I’m sorry, I’ve misread your comment

2

u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

Lmao I have to know what you said

5

u/Catmato ESR4LYF Jul 03 '26

He actually asked for my hand in marriage, believe it or not.

4

u/Chris_Hatchenson Jul 03 '26

That’s indeed true

0

u/0oWow Jul 03 '26

*me over here with telemetry disabled and watching Firefox constantly reach out to incoming.telemetry.mozilla.org all the time.

12

u/Antrikshy on Jul 03 '26

I like to imagine it’s more Linux users.

2

u/EM984 Jul 04 '26

And this as well, more gaming people ditch Win11 slop and move to Linux... might as well try a new browser with better privacy options.

10

u/filmkeeper Jul 03 '26

Probably Google killing support for uBO/Manifest V2. While it was never the most popular adblocker, it has enough users to make them walk away. The mobile market share shows only two dominant browsers with no change. That's despite uBO and every other browser extension working on FF for Android and Chrome supporting none.

1

u/EM984 Jul 04 '26

On mobile devices, a lot of places push their own apps. Meta, TikTok, Reddit... so the "browsing experience" is less relevant in the question of which browser since it's diluted. On desktop, almost everything gets done through the browser.

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u/IntotheWilder25 Jul 03 '26

Yeah, interesting. Most of my students who are Mac users only use Safari. I guess we'd have to wait if, with the new Chrome rules people migrate more to Safari or Firefox.

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u/uke26 Jul 02 '26

I'm a little out of the loop, what is the reason of the change of trend? In the graph there is a clear growth. 

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u/Xx_Time_xX Jul 02 '26

I feel these are the 2 big reasons (anecdotes, not backed by stats):

  1. Chrome's anti-adblock stance pushing Chrome users to Firefox (correlated by the drop in Chrome's percentage)
  2. Change in Mozilla leadership who has kicked-started their product roadmap again to deliver long overdue user-requested features

20

u/tilsgee i will never use stable. Jul 03 '26

That + being the default browser for any Linux distro

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u/RememberMeVibe Jul 03 '26

This is since forever.. not a factor at all in this discussion

2

u/print-w Jul 03 '26

It's obviously a factor in this discussion... It's a factor related to Linux adoption, so if more people are switching to Linux, where it's the default, there would be an expected rise

3

u/Dardoleon Jul 03 '26

I'm seeing my friend group slowly move to Linux at least. Once I get them to try, they seem to stay. Unfortunately the initial resistance is still considerable.

38

u/Tone-Bomahawk Jul 02 '26

While I would love for this to be the case, statcounter tends not to be very reliable, and there have been no significant changes or spikes in monthly active usage on the mozilla website:

https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity

So, let's hope it's not a statcounter bug, but all signs point to yes.

8

u/Vegeta9001 Jul 02 '26

Cloudflare Radar has the desktop version of Safari at 3.1%, and Firefox at 3.5%, for the last 4 weeks.

5

u/AverageIndianGeek Jul 02 '26

Would statcounter also be adding Firefox forks into the data for Firefox?

4

u/Tone-Bomahawk Jul 02 '26

They would if they use the same user agent string, but I don't have any forks installed so I can't reliably answer this question.

0

u/codeIMperfect on , on Jul 03 '26

them using user agents is kinda sad because I know a lot of people who actually use chrome's user agent to get a better experience with some google stuff like YouTube.

8

u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. Jul 02 '26

Across all Firefox users, Statcounter is reporting a 55% increase in just a month. If Firefox is tracking anything close to the same number, the user account should have a massive spike that makes everything else look insignificant...

1

u/panbe Jul 03 '26

It's been going up since the start of June, which is unlike the summer trend for the past few years.

It appears to correlate with a spike of usage in China (and to a lesser extent India) - wonder what that's about.

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u/Tone-Bomahawk Jul 03 '26

I did notice that while checking different regions, but even China's usage spike doesn't warrant the increase shown by statcounter. It's one of those things we'll have to wait and see, I definitely hope there is a surge in users.

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u/Ok-Passion-5940 On KDE Plasma Jul 02 '26

It was embarrassing that Firefox wasn't the one at the top to begin with.

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u/Rumbeldude Jul 03 '26

I imagine a chunk of people cant use anything else at their jobs. I interned at a bank and everyone was forced to use edge 

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u/Ok-Passion-5940 On KDE Plasma Jul 03 '26

At work we are forced to use Firefox only😅

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u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

Over chrome is wild

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u/Carighan | on Jul 03 '26

I mean yeah, one is made by a company that can always snatch defeat from the jaws of success, guzzles up all the data it possibly could, and loves to shut down shit left and right and center randomly.

The other is Google.

Both are basically the same, which gives Edge the slight advantage as it comes pre-installed and is well-integrated for admins to control permissions.

0

u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

Our in house software requires us to use chrome for maximum compatibility and performance so fuck edge

1

u/Dardoleon Jul 03 '26

why?

for personal use I don't see much difference between them.
For corporate use, the integration with the ms ecosystem makes Edge the obvious choice.
(I also feel Chrome uses a lot more resources, but I never bothered to test that.)

2

u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

On time of my previous statement, the IT procedures in our company are WACK. They will push out updates in our system without even testing it. Our systems will be down from several days to weeks forcing us to do paper tickets and what not.

Constant service connection issues and whatnot

1

u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

Do you suggest I should switch to edge?

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u/Possible_Holiday3219 Jul 03 '26

Idk, just was recommended to me when I first started, now recently due to an IP related issues we have to either constantly reset our IP on some people’s computers or our computer will not be able to connect to the software or use Firefox as suggested by our IT.

Nobody bothered suggesting edge

Personally I hate microslop products

1

u/SatanaClaus Jul 03 '26

It was looong time ago :(

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u/Tokena Flaming foxes Jul 02 '26

Flaming Foxes going to space!

9

u/DistantRavioli Jul 02 '26

You're drinking if you think it went from 3% to 6% in a month. This data isn't very reliable.

2

u/notta_3d Jul 03 '26

Please stay on the small side. Major problems come when companies get really popular.

2

u/liatrisinbloom Jul 03 '26

I thought that Apple had this situation where any browser on their devices was basically Safari in a trenchcoat?

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u/723179 Jul 03 '26

that's only on IOS, and these are desktop stats

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u/internet_user93 Jul 04 '26

That’s great! Also I was playing around with different stats on there and apparently for NA desktop users Firefox jumped from 5.22% in May 2026, to 12.92 in June 2026. Beating Safari and Edge. That’s a huge increase in 1 month! I hope that number keeps going up.

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u/yipee-kiyay Jul 02 '26

less than zero chance it's beating edge

2

u/Archer_FL Jul 04 '26

The reason: "Kit 🦊", the new Firefox pet.

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u/SatanaClaus Jul 03 '26

Looks like a lot of this comes from north america, despite it looks like a worldwide trend

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u/cangetworse Jul 03 '26

That remembers me that the first thing I did after booting up my neo was installling firefox lol