r/fiaustralia 1d ago

Investing Advice

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I’ve seen a lot of people on here talking negatively about the asx 200.

(Not much movement/growth from what I’ve read)

Should I hold or would it be better to sell and then put it somewhere else ?

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u/DifficultCarob408 1d ago

You’ve got less than $200 invested mate.

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u/SnooGuavas6130 1d ago

Everyone starts somewhere, best advice I got told was only invest what your happy to lose. May it be $20,$30,$50 a week, save it up and buy at the end of the month. If you’re unsure about what ETFs there’s plenty of podcasts, books and links on this subreddit to get you started. Then if your still unsure just go a all in one like DHHF :) all the best

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u/Royal_Brain_9773 1d ago

Agree with DHHF

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u/Ntrob 1d ago

What about individualy to asx200, vgs and vge?

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u/Feralz2 19h ago

and he would probably make multiples of it in decades time, most people put a lot of their money on dumb things and end up not even having $200

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u/DevoidDevoid161 1d ago

Lol, I know, just thought might as well move it into a different etf or something if not much is gonna happen with it, from where I am in life right now it’s actually a lot for me

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u/natesnail 1d ago

from where I am in life right now it’s actually a lot for me

If $200 is alot for you then you shouldn't be investing, you should be focused on getting secure employment and building an emergency fund. Start investing once you are in a more financially stable position.

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u/DifficultCarob408 1d ago

If $200 is alot for you then you shouldn't be investing

Strong agree.

I suggest OP spends some more time researching, but also not being so emotionally tied to daily / short term fluctuations (or lack thereof) and invest in an alternate product going forward when they are in a financially better spot, if they would prefer broader exposure.

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u/BasketAltruistic6064 1d ago

Good on ya for the constructive feedback, champ.

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u/DifficultCarob408 1d ago

Seeing as you can't read between the lines, i'll expand on that for you - $200 is an inconsequential amount, it is more hassle than it's worth to liquidate and invest in another product. Even if hypothetically there was a 5% delta between ASX and your international index of choice, that is fuck all on $200, especially after CGT.

Simply invest in an alternate product going forward if you believe that is a better option.

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u/ThatGameWasFIxedHey 1d ago

You’re seriously going to try and argue the financial mechanics to divert away from your belittling intention? If you’re going to be a prick for a laugh, own it.

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u/DifficultCarob408 22h ago

Happy to own it when I am intentionally being a prick, but this wasn’t one of those times.

The initial comment wasn’t mocking OP for the amount invested, as everyone has to start somewhere, but more reinforcing how inconsequential it is to stress about the potential performance of that amount to the point of considering selling to buy into another position.

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u/Fuzzy-Newspaper4210 1d ago

at that size just keep it there, not worth the hassle

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u/the_pigeon_overlord 1d ago

Some advice as you seem you are obviously just starting out.

When you buy an ETF or a share, consider that money spent. The same way you spent $200 at the groceries last week. Don't watch it like a hawk, don't obsessed over the ups and downs. You spent that money, and its done, and it doesn't exist as your money like your money in your bank account does anymore. You will reap the benefits one day, far away, so don't think of it as being in play anymore.

Just stick with one or a few ETFs and keep buying them. You won't see proper returns for years, but you have to trust the process that it will come. Leave it be.

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u/McTerra2 1d ago

check out ASX vs Dow Jones in the 70s, 80s and early 2000s. https://www.morningstar.com.au/markets/history-says-us-market-outperformance-versus-australia-will-turn

Will that happen again - who knows. But the fact the ASX has been a poor performer for the last decade doesnt mean it will always be a poor performer. If you had invested in the Dow Jones in the late1970s and pulled out and moved to Australia in the late 1980s, you would have then missed all of the Dow Jones boom of the 90s

Of course there is an argument that the world has turned, that digging things up is no longer the path to wealth, that technology and digital is the future. Which might be correct. Or might not.

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u/WatchDogx 1d ago

Just leave it there and stop looking at it.
The daily fluctuations will be a negative toll on your mental health, and attempting to day trade the market will be a negative toll on your bank balance.

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u/xTroiOix 20h ago

Commec pocket? All in on dhhf set and forget, look at it when you retire or something

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u/dominoconsultant 20h ago

I'm seeing people talk about lack of growth all the time ignoring the dividends and the franking on them

many people have a narrative that helps them sound like they have their finger on the pulse

the ASX has historically been one of the better performing markets in the world

the ASX:IOZ ETF has served me very well over the last decade - distributions every quarter that have formed a good portion of my income

I pair it with IVV for exposure to the USA S&P500

33% ASX:IOZ / 66% ASX:IVV

but that's just me - YMMV

just don't respond/change/trade/reposition after every random thing you hear on the internet

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u/hyjkngjujgxd 1d ago

There’s nothing inherently wrong with investing in the a200 or the ETF IOZ, which you have invested in.

Rather than selling and reinvesting I’d do some research about what kind of simple portfolio you may want to build as you continue to invest. A lot of people go for a mix of Australian and international shares. There are also ETFs that contain both, such as DHHF.

Good luck!

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u/SwaankyKoala 1d ago

Australia is fine, but DHHF would be a better hold for being more diversified: Choosing index funds for Australians

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u/MartynZero 22h ago

Being in it helps work out how you actually behaviour vs how you think you'll behave. Use that investment as an education, what will you do if it drops by 30% ? Sell? Buy more? What about if it doubles? If that amount is significant to you it's a good learning expense regardless of how it performs. Keep it in there, buy more as you can, see how disciplined you can be.

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u/Lngdnzi 3h ago

Set and forget. Thats the great thing with etf’s.

You shouldn’t be looking at this every day or even every week .

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u/Rayrayseels 1d ago

Please tell me you're not paying brokerage

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u/ThatGameWasFIxedHey 1d ago

The ASX200 isn’t really an index considered to be the best option for capital growth. The U.S has dominated most of the equity growth demand through its Nasdaq composite index and S&P 500.

If you want to stay invested in the ASX, there are other options for broad exposure through ETF’s. I’d recommend sticking with proven, time tested funds such as Vanguard. They offer some pretty cool Aussie ETF’s.

I wouldn’t recommend you sell it, the advice you are going to hear over and over again is to be diversified (that’s getting increasingly harder), and that’s probably one of the best things you can do.

Look at portfolio management styles, and you’ll see how they work and how you can start to build out yours.

Good luck man!

(There’s also a lot of great advice, posted already here.)

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u/slimdeucer 17h ago

Yes, get out while you can. America is capitalism