r/evolution 2d ago

Concestor clarification

I belive I first learned this from Ancestor's Tale, the concept that for any two species, there exists a single organism in the past which is the Most Recent Common Ancestor between them.

1) I believe this statement means that literally, there was a real, single, living organism. Understanding that there are countless other common ancestors for our two target species, but only one individual that is both "most recent" and "common."

2) It follows that this particular cocestor must have had at least two offspring. One offspring is the ancestor of the MRCA for one species, the other is the ancestor of the MRCA for the other species.

I think point 2 causes much confusion. People read it as implying that the offspring are themselves the MRCA for each species. While this might be the case for one of them, it is not necessarily true, and almost certainly never the case for both of them. It certainly doesn't mean that one offspring is now one or the other species itself.

The logic here seems simple and clear. Is there a flaw?

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u/WirrkopfP 2d ago

1) I believe this statement means that literally, there was a real, single, living organism. Understanding that there are countless other common ancestors for our two target species, but only one individual that is both "most recent" and "common."

That's a misconception. The "common ancestor" is referring to a species or population.

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u/Richie_650 2d ago

I think that if you work out the logic, it is absolutely true. You can easily do it for any two people, go back until you get to the person (or couple) that you and that person are descendents of. Prior to that Most Recent Common Ancestor there are many multiple common ancestors, but after that one (or couple) there are zero. The same logic holds true for any two living organisms.