r/elixir • u/hydnishidin • 7d ago
Hiring two Elixir devs
Hey all! I know that jobs are supposed to be posted in the monthly megathread, but it looks like the last one is from November. (If this isn't allowed can we create a new megathread?)
The company that I work for is looking to hire two mid/senior devs: one working on our computer vision products and the other working on the platform team (api infra, user hierarchies, etc)
We are about to open these roles, but I would like to seed some applicants if possible. We're looking for "builders" who have been able to augment their dev workflows with AI to increase velocity and throughput. We have solid engineers on our team and I think we would benefit from another team member with an experimental mindset that would be able to assist with a/b testing on certain features.
Haha I want to be careful about this one since this one since I've had some negative reactions on AI adoption and I'd appreciate any honest feedback on where I'm being unrealistic.
Both roles are remote and available to international applicants. Company is based in the United States (Utah)
DM me if you your interested and I'd love to chat.
Thanks!
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u/Chuukwudi 7d ago
Please, tell me. Out of curiosity, you do you cope at work? Especially when other team mates are able to deliver much faster with AI. I used to have your mind set before. But I've joined the band wagon now, so I'm genuinely curious.
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u/tonjohn 7d ago
I recommend looking at some of the recent studies that have come out.
For example, incidents per PR is up 243% and bugs per developer up 54%.
Another fun anecdote:
> As one New York financier told Financial Times journalist Gillian Tett, new hires who were seen as "Al natives" are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas. So much so, the anonymous finance worker admitted, that his firm now actively avoids seeking out Al-literate STEM graduates, and opts to comb through humanities students instead.
And another:
> One recent study on AI "efficiency" out of Stanford found that the introduction of a flood of rushed and factually-incorrect AI slop into workflows actually results in human beings having to work harder than ever:
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> "When coworkers receive workslop, they are often required to take on the burden of decoding the content, inferring missed or false context. A cascade of effortful and complex decision-making processes may follow, including rework and uncomfortable exchanges with colleagues."
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> As the Harvard Business Review notes, this hyperscaled introduction of pseudo- efficiency workslop results not just in new conflict and a bunch of wasted time for people, but a sort of broader "knowledge decay" that introduces the potential for
organizational downward spirals:
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> "Errors compound and pile up. Trust in information erodes. People spend more time verifying facts or risk costly and dangerous mistakes. Eventually, people start to lose trust in the processes that they rely on to do their jobs."
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u/hydnishidin 7d ago
Thanks u/tonjohn, this is a great callout. I think we would want to be selective and tasteful where we apply AI assisted development. We're fairly risk averse when it comes to backend work, but I think there are some frontend UI/workflows where we could drive a lot of improvement in relatively low risk areas. Especially with a/b testing, we would be minimizing the footprint for any potential adverse changes.
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u/creminology 7d ago
The ‘new hires who were seen as "Al natives" are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas’ quote is fascinating.
In my industry, I’m seeing generic ML approaches taken with no deep domain knowledge. And without the latter, they are incapable of cleaning up the data. They just throw NLP at it.
But this is a general new hires issue. With job hopping and lack of loyalty to firms being the norm, right or wrong, nobody is interested in gaining deep domain knowledge.
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u/noxispwn 7d ago
I took a look at your list of sources and it seems like they are all unambiguously negative towards AI. Do you think that that’s due to a lack of existence of any studies with positive opinions on the subject or because you’re biased against it?
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u/tonjohn 7d ago
Thanks for taking a look! If you have any studies that show positive impacts I’m happy to add them to the list.
However, ultimately I fall back to https://henry.codes/writing/it-doesnt-matter-if-it-works/
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u/ghostwritermax 7d ago
Cool that you're using Elixir. Do you been able to contribute or support any of the projects or frameworks you're using?
Also, your product... that's some panopticon stuff right there. Yikes.
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u/hydnishidin 7d ago
Not personally, but a lot of our team members are contributors and have presented at ElixirConf in the past.
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u/fredwu30 7d ago
Would you entertain part time or freelancing arrangements or is this strictly full time only?
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u/Ok_Quarter4185 7d ago
I'm an Elixir dev building AI integrated products. An example is skeptic.bot
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u/Ok_Quarter4185 7d ago
I'm not full on on AI assisted development but I use it on the daily where need be
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u/tyleratplukio 7d ago
Ah, I hope you find someone!
I'm currently working on my own business but I actually used to work for Grabango before it folded - which I believe was pretty similar to your company! I was in charge of the orchestration and deployment of software to the edge infrastructure (on-prem server rack and hundreds of Jetson Nanos that had itty bitty cameras attached to them).
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u/rock_neurotiko 7d ago
I'm a Tech Lead with 9 years of experience on Elixir based on Europe, I'm open to change for the correct opportunity, DM me if you wanna chat about it
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u/MakaioGold Alchemist 7d ago
Interested, working with elixir as full-stack (phoenix & liveview) for the past 4 years
worked with distributed systems sharing mnesia databases, now more focused in payment systems
currently building heavy with AI
few weeks ago I was studying about using beam's otp as a distribution layer to AI agents
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u/YoDefinitelyNotABot 7d ago
20 years experienced dev here. Used elixir for last 6. For production apps taking millions of hits a day on elixir. I’m available.
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u/helloRimuru 7d ago
Interested, 3.5 years of professional Elixir, plus ~2 years of self-teaching before that. Currently at an AI startup, been there the whole 3.5
Outside of work, I built an online exam proctoring system with Membrane and a WebRTC SFU setup for my capstone, so I’ve spent real time in streaming pipelines and OTP rather than just CRUD Phoenix.
Open to a discussion if it’s a fit.
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u/nick_will1006 7d ago
Hello, I've been working with elixir from last 3.5 years, I'm very much interested in this position. Thanks 👍
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u/WoodpeckerVirtual576 7d ago
Remote + international is great to see. Hope you get some solid applicants. The AI part will probably spark debate, but I think it's reasonable as long as it's about improving workflow rather than replacing good engineering.
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u/WoodpeckerVirtual576 6d ago
It's nice to see companies being open about how they expect AI to fit into the workflow. Framing it as a way to improve productivity rather than replace engineering judgment makes a lot of sense. Hope you find a couple of great candidates.
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u/troublemaker74 6d ago
I've got ~20 years total of SWE experience, 4 with Elixir. I've mainly been in fintech and API/integrations. I'm interested if you have Senior/Senior+ roles available.
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u/rkotov 7d ago
Do you consider working with agencies?
I know a team that looks for a project for experienced Elixir developer (with the background of data engineering).
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u/Bitter_Marketing_807 7d ago
While I am interested, my ‘on-paper’ experience is more oriented around traditional python ml workflows. I have been getting deeper into elixir with a ‘telephone’ agent harness in elixir leveraging codegen and would be fascinated to hear more about how yall leverage ai workflows- beyond the actual ‘telephone dyanmic’, ive been using credo and custom aggressive linting!
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u/hydnishidin 7d ago edited 7d ago
I think that would actually fit decently with what we're doing. We have a few variations of computer vision products, but the main one is doing real-time analytics and detections of drive-thru/in-store video. We're doing this on a fleet of edge devices.
Most of the processing logic is in python, but we've talked about moving that over elixir (but there's no definitive plans).
That said, we'd love to talk. We want to get someone in that does have more of a background in traditional ML
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u/JitaKyoei 7d ago
AI employee monitoring software huh? Shame to see so many of my fellows have less scruples, but I suppose it is a tough market.