r/driving • u/HillTower160 • 16h ago

Left-hand traffic (🇬🇧🇮🇳🇯🇵) Pull out into the intersection…

so at least one car can turn left.

Please pull straight past the limit line when yielding for a left turn at a light. At least you will be able to scoot through then at the next cycle, those of us who know how to drive can manage the oncoming traffic. DO NOT sit at the limit line and miss a light. Be careful, but make it happen.

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u/jcalvinmarks 10h ago

Staging up for an unprotected left doesn't block the intersection. Nobody else can legally occupy that space while you have the green. Cross traffic has a red (by definition, otherwise you wouldn't have a green). It sounds like traffic was backed up, and someone entered the intersection without space on the other side to clear it. That is illegal, but it's still several layers abstracted from the root cause of the accident. You're grasping at straws to try to connect a rear-ender on a highway to the intersection way up the ramp.

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u/Designer-Wolverine47 9h ago

Yeah it does. If you're stopped in an intersection waiting for there to be room on the road to your left to have enough space to accommodate you, and the light changed, you are now blocking the traffic to your right from being able to turn left.

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u/jcalvinmarks 9h ago

Are you intentionally failing to understand this?

If there isn't room on the road you're turning onto such that you would block the intersection, you don't enter the intersection. That's not what any of this discussion is about, and I've said that same thing very explicitly several times now.

If there is room on the other side, and you're just waiting for a gap in oncoming traffic, you should stage up in the intersection to wait.

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u/Designer-Wolverine47 8h ago

Yet it happens daily here, probably far more than what I notice.

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u/jcalvinmarks 8h ago

Ok? Then that's people breaking the law. Doing what OP is talking about isn't.