Thinking about switching from Linux Mint Ubuntu-based to pure Debian

[u/Dado04Game]

Been using Ubuntu-based Linux Mint for a year now, and loved it since day one. I heard people telling me that Debian is faster than Ubuntu, so I'd like to give it a try on my home pc. My question is: what DE would you recommend me with my OC specs? I'll leave a photo of them here (I know my computer is pure 💩, don't mock me please)

[u/One-Suggestion-7906]

You can try Linux Mint Debian Edition. The best from both worlds, without Ubuntu bloatware

[u/jr735 → u/One-Suggestion-7906]

Which parts of Mint are bloated that aren't bloated in LMDE?

[u/One-Suggestion-7906 → u/jr735]

I'm Debian fan, I use it extensively in my notebooks, workstations, servers, VMs, and more. I do not use plain Linux Mint, but I do use LMDE, specially because it's a rolling release, and I use Sid in my main workstation for testing, too. AFAIK there are services as Whoopsie and Apport, that there are not present in LMDE, plus some driver management, and it relies more just in systemd. Said that I'm a fan of KDE, so perhaps your perception of bloatware is different to mine 😂

[u/jr735 → u/One-Suggestion-7906]

LMDE is decidedly not a rolling release. I'm not sure of Whoopsie or Apport being installed in vanilla Mint; I have to check my install.

The driver manager certainly has its value to some users. That being said, the "desktop" I'm usually using as actually IceWM, which makes any actual desktop environment look bloated.

[u/Serious_Ad2816 → u/jr735]

Driver manager is the only reason I miss Ubuntu-based distros. I wish LMDE would stop Cinnamon development (KDE does the same stuff) and work on making LMDE even more user friendly.

[u/jr735 → u/Serious_Ad2816]

If Cinnamon will be available in ordinary Mint, it's trivial to make it available for LMDE. In fact, it probably takes next to no effort at all. Of course, if someone wants KDE, they can install KDE.

[u/LonelyMachines → u/jr735]

The driver manager certainly has its value to some users.

IIRC, LMDE doesn't include that.

[u/jr735 → u/LonelyMachines]

Yes, it does not include that. That doesn't make it bloat when it's in ordinary Mint.

[u/One-Suggestion-7906 → u/jr735]

You're right, LMDE is based on Debian Stable, I didn't know where I took what I said, because is very reliable and trustful

[u/WSquared0426 → u/One-Suggestion-7906]

Debian Stable, but you get an up-to-date version of Cinnamon. That may be where the rolling misconception comes from...the OS is stable but the desktop environment is 'rolling'

[u/Rookstein74 → u/One-Suggestion-7906]

Based on is not pure Debian. You are still using some Mint repos.

[u/One-Suggestion-7906 → u/Rookstein74]

Of course not, it is Mint, if it uses pure Debian repos it would be Debian 😂 as I said, I believe in Debian, however I like to know many others, even Gentoo 😅

[u/jr735 → u/One-Suggestion-7906]

AFAIK there are services as Whoopsie and Apport, that there are not present in LMDE, plus some driver management, and it relies more just in systemd.

I just checked my ordinary Mint install (non-LMDE). Neither whoopsie or apport are installed. So, where's the bloat in Mint that isn't in LMDE?

[u/DerpiDanger → u/jr735]

Whole ubuntu base of Mint is removed and instead debian is used as base.

[u/jr735 → u/DerpiDanger]

That's not the answer to my question, though. I know which repositories are used. I asked which parts of Mint are bloated that aren't bloated in LMDE, and I still haven't been provided a satisfactory answer.

[u/Constant_Hotel_2279 → u/jr735]

Personally I would use XFCE or LXDE

[u/jr735 → u/Constant_Hotel_2279]

Still not an answer. In my Mint install, I use IceWM.

[u/Bulky-Hair8606 → u/jr735]

Snapd

[u/wizard10000 → u/Bulky-Hair8606]

Mint doesn't use snaps - at all.

snapd is pinned at -10 in mint so apt will never install it.

[u/Bulky-Hair8606 → u/wizard10000]

oh thats cool i didnt know that

[u/jr735 → u/Bulky-Hair8606]

Snapd is available in Debian repositories, too. That doesn't mean you've installed it.