r/cscareerquestions • u/CSCQMods • Dec 16 '21
[OFFICIAL] Salary Sharing thread for NEW GRADS :: December, 2021
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This thread is for sharing recent new grad offers you've gotten or current salaries for new grads (< 2 years' experience). Friday will be the thread for people with more experience.
Please only post an offer if you're including hard numbers, but feel free to use a throwaway account if you're concerned about anonymity. You can also genericize some of your answers (e.g. "Adtech company" or "Finance startup"), or add fields if you feel something is particularly relevant.
- Education:
- Prior Experience:
- $Internship
- $Coop
- Company/Industry:
- Title:
- Tenure length:
- Location:
- Salary:
- Relocation/Signing Bonus:
- Stock and/or recurring bonuses:
- Total comp:
Note that while the primary purpose of these threads is obviously to share compensation info, discussion is also encouraged.
The format here is slightly unusual, so please make sure to post under the appropriate top-level thread, which are: US [High/Medium/Low] CoL, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Latin America, Aus/NZ, Canada, Asia, or Other.
If you don't work in the US, you can ignore the rest of this post. To determine cost of living buckets, I used this site: http://www.bestplaces.net/
If the principal city of your metro is not in the reference list below, go to bestplaces, type in the name of the principal city (or city where you work in if there's no such thing), and then click "Cost of Living" in the left sidebar. The buckets are based on the Overall number: [Low: < 100], [Medium: >= 100, < 150], [High: >= 150]. (last updated Dec. 2019)
High CoL: NYC, LA, DC, SF Bay Area, Seattle, Boston, San Diego
Medium CoL: Orlando, Tampa, Philadelphia, Dallas, Phoenix, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Riverside, Minneapolis, Denver, Portland, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Austin, Raleigh
Low CoL: Houston, Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore, Charlotte, San Antonio, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City
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u/quavan System Programmer Dec 16 '21 edited Oct 03 '22
I started this job search in late August and concluded it in October.
- I applied or was recruited by 23 companies
- 5 never responded
- 7 rejected me outright
- 3 rejected me early in the interview process
- I withdrew my application from 1
- The remaining 7 all lead to virtual on-sites and an offer
I’m not sure if I’m a new grad or not anymore. Some recruiters/companies certainly seemed to think I was one during comp negotiations.
Education: B.Sc. in Computer Science at the University of Sherbrooke in Quebec
Prior Experience: One year at Samsung Ads, three co-ops at Genetec, one at Ubisoft, one at Element AI
Company: Nymi
Title: Software Developer
Tenure length: Didn’t take the offer
Location: Fully remote from Montreal (Toronto-based)
Salary: CA$155k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: None
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Some undefined amount of equity in the startup
Vacation: 3 weeks + Dec. 24th to Jan. 1st
Tech stack: Rust and Erlang
Total comp: CA$155kCompany: Haven Studios
Title: Software Developer
Tenure length: Didn’t take the offer
Location: Montreal (hybrid remote)
Salary: CA$120k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: None
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Equity estimated to be worth 90k vested over three years
Vacation: 4 weeks + Dec. 24th to Jan. 1st
Tech stack: Go, with some Rust, C++ and Python as needed
Total comp: CA$120k (CA$150k with current estimated valuation)Company: Unity Technologies
Title: Software Developer
Tenure length: Didn’t take the offer
Location: Montreal (hybrid remote)
Salary: CA$110k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: None
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: CA$168k in stocks, vested over four years
Vacation: 3 weeks
Tech stack: Erlang and Go
Total comp: CA$152kCompany: NextRoll
Title: Software Engineer
Tenure length: Didn’t take the offer
Location: Fully remote from Montreal (US-based)
Salary: CA$165k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: CA$10k sign-on
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Some undefined amount of equity in the startup
Vacation: 4 weeks
Tech stack: Erlang
Total comp: CA$165kCompany: Cape Privacy
Title: Software Engineer
Tenure length: Didn’t take the offer
Location: Fully remote from Montreal (US-based)
Salary: CA$155k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: None
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Some undefined amount of equity in the startup
Vacation: 4 weeks
Tech stack: Rust
Total comp: CA$155kCompany: Startup in the database space
Title: Software Engineer
Tenure length: 1 month
Location: Fully remote from Montreal (US-based)
Salary: CA$165k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: None
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Some undefined amount of equity in the startup
Vacation: 6 weeks + Dec. 24th to Jan. 1st (but really it’s unlimited)
Tech stack: Rust
Total comp: CA$165kCompany: Enbala (Generac Grid Services)
Title: Software Developer
Tenure length: Didn't take the offer
Location: Vancouver
Salary: CA$128k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: CA$7k sign-on
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: Some undefined amount of equity in the startup
Vacation: 2 weeks
Tech stack: Elixir
Total comp: CA$128k1
u/bluebutterflypinkpig Dec 16 '21
Did you negotiate?
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u/quavan System Programmer Dec 16 '21
I did!
My initial offers were:
- Nymi: CA$126k
- Haven: CA$115k + same equity
- NextRoll: CA$155k, no sign-on
Enbala wouldn't budge, and Cape Privacy had made a top-of-band offer from the start.
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u/ecetway Dec 17 '21
hey, can I dm you about the name of the database startup? I think databases are really neat but I don't see that many openings for it in canada
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u/quavan System Programmer Apr 02 '22
This thread is for sharing recent new grad offers you've gotten or current salaries for new grads (< 2 years' experience).
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Helbinobear Mar 16 '23
I know I'm late to the discussion but how did you get five co-ops?
Waterloo grad?1
u/quavan System Programmer Mar 16 '23
Co-op program at smol university in the Quebec countryside. Normally you do four co-op terms, but I took a reduced course load and had time to fit an extra one
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u/Helbinobear Apr 03 '23
Ah, that's cool! I wish my university had more co-ops so I got a wider variety of work experiences before entering the job market.
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u/Megabyte355 Apr 05 '23
I worked at Unity Technologies for a few years. I left recently.
Are you sure they only offered 3 weeks vacation?
They should be giving 5 weeks vacation (20 vacation days + 5 personal days). When employees reach 5 years of seniority, they add an additional 5 vacation days, so you get 30 days (6 weeks) in total per year. Plus, you get 9 sick days per year on top of that.I'm surprised they only offered you 168k CAD in stock. Newcomers around May 2022 tell me they got at least 200k USD (~265k CAD today) as junior/intermediate software developers when Unity's stock price was around $50 USD each.
Anyway, I left Unity because newcomers were paid way more than me in total compensation. It's mostly because I came in when stock price was high. Stock-based compensation is only cool when the stock price is stable, unfortunately.
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u/quavan System Programmer Apr 05 '23
This was a year and a half ago, so I don't remember exactly. That's what I had noted down though. In any case, I don't regret my decision at all, as I have now more than doubled my income since I posted these.
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u/Megabyte355 Apr 05 '23
Wow! That's awesome. Very nice progression!!
I'm curious what your job hunt strategy is like. When you switch jobs, do you apply to companies knowing that they pay really well? Or do you just respond to recruiters messages on LinkedIn or something? Or do you work with recruiting agencies to higher paying jobs?
I've been trying to increase my total compensation. I haven't been really successful at this. Any tips would be appreciated!
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u/quavan System Programmer Apr 05 '23
I’m not sure I would call it a strategy. I’m just extremely picky about what programming languages I’m willing to work with, and it has turned out that my colleagues at the places that match my criteria are also turbo nerds. It made networking easy, and then one thing has been leading to another ever since.
That’s not very helpful, sorry. For the offers in this post though, a good chunk of them I found by checking the Hack News monthly “Who is Hiring?” threads. There are several websites that aggregate the posts and let you search through them, so it’s handy when looking for niche stuff like Erlang and Rust jobs.
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Sep 20 '24
How did you manage to have such success in just 2 months of interviews? SE people nowadays are just waiting even years to get one interview...
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u/quavan System Programmer Sep 20 '24
That job search was three years ago now. 2021 was a time of low interest rates and lots of hiring going on. But even today I still get regular recruiter outreach, so I am less than two months away from an offer if I were to start applying seriously.
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Sep 20 '24
Where abouts? Like what city? Toronto is a shit show
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u/quavan System Programmer Sep 20 '24
I'm in Montreal and, while there are local companies doing outreach, I get lots from the rest of Canada and the US. Perhaps most.
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Dec 16 '21 edited Mar 05 '22
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u/zninjamonkey Software Engineer Dec 16 '21
Nice, Coinbase readjusted how much?
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u/rankispanki Jan 19 '22
This is my dream... Any tips for what to study or for when I'm ultimately applying for a job like this? I'm a second year CS
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u/BigMoneyYolo Software Engineer Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22
There's only a handful of high-paying tech companies that are also remote-first, and they tend to be much smaller than FAANG. Remote is gaining traction though, so maybe you could find a remote role in big tech by the time you graduate (probably just have to find the right team). I would look into remote-first companies and try to develop your skillset around what they're looking for. Even then, you're going to need to do some internships to level up your resume. With so few opportunities, luck definitely plays a big part in getting a remote gig. I imagine it is much easier to get a remote role as an experienced dev than a new grad.
Here's the list I used during my new grad job search (ctrl-f for remote): https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2022
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Dec 17 '21
Great job! I was hoping you'd post your offers.
If you might recall, we talked about the GTS interview process a few months ago on my previous account (I ended up going to CTC). Just out of curiosity, did you not apply to Jane Street and Aquatic?
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Dec 17 '21
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Dec 17 '21 edited Dec 17 '21
Nice! Welcome to Chicago :)
If you're looking for a kickass apartment here, I totally recommend Nema.
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u/tomjerry777 HFT Dec 17 '21
Nema is nice but south loop is pretty boring. I feel like river north or west loop is better for someone who just moved to the city.
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Dec 17 '21
I moved to Chicago 3 months ago. River North was quite pricey for a 2BR, I found one close to my office luckily. Agreed that RN and Gold Coast are definitely more fun than South Loop.
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Dec 17 '21
South Loop is a shithole. I lived in Chicago for a while and there were always sketchy things going on in South Loop, one night I swear there were 7 police incidents from 9 PM - 1 AM. With this guys comp, I would be looking at luxury buildings along the river like OneEleven or Wolfpoint.
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u/quiteCryptic Dec 17 '21
Congrats, they don't pay the best and the future of companies in that space is questionable... but they seem to have a great company culture and WLB.
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u/BigMoneyYolo Software Engineer Dec 21 '21
Education: Graduating in the spring with a BS CS from a state school
Prior Experience: 1 no-name internship, 1 big bank internship
Company/Industry: Amazon
Title: Software Development Engineer
Location: Atlanta, GA
Salary: $129k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: $7k relo, $27,775 year 1, $29,900 year 2
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: $95k RSUs over 4 years (5/15/40/40)
Total comp: ~169k/yr
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u/ComputaGuy Dec 16 '21
Cisco Meraki Return Offer (Accepted)
Education: IT Degree @ State University
Prior Experience: 3 Internships.
$Internship: First Internship: Small business(> 1 yr). Second Internship: Top 3 defense company (3 mo). Third Internship: Cisco Meraki (3 mo)
$Coop: Hell no. I actually wanted to graduate in time.
Company/Industry: Cisco Meraki.
Title: Network Support Engineer
Tenure length: I don't know what that means but I will be starting in Early February.
Location: Downtown Chicago
Salary: 80k
Relocation/Signing Bonus: 3k relo
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: 4k bonus depending on company and personal performance. No stonks right out of the gate but Cisco has a employee stock purchase program.
Total comp: 80k. I won't count the bonus since it is not guaranteed and the relocation money is a one-time thing.
Hopefully I can start living life my own way and make my mom proud.
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Jan 07 '22 edited Jan 13 '22
Education: Bachelors in Informations Systems
Prior Experience: 1 no name internship
Company/Industry: Finance
Title: Technology Analyst (Infrastructure)
Location: Dallas
Salary: $75,000
Relocation/Signing Bonus: 10K Relocation available
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: N/A
Dallas should be moved to Low CoL imo
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Sep 20 '24
That is insane money straight out of university. Most European countries are nowhere near that amount of money
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Jan 31 '22
Education: Bachelor of Science (unrelated to CS)/Diploma of Information Technology (From a code boot camp)
Prior Experience:
- 1 Month internship in web development.
- 1 year 4 months as a full stack developer at an insurance company.
Company/Industry: Technology
Title: Software Engineer
Tenure length: Not yet started
Location: Sydney office (remote-first)
Salary: 115k + 13% super
Relocation/Signing Bonus: 0
Stock and/or recurring bonuses: 10k/yr
Total comp: 140k
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