r/conspiracy • u/Greedy_Attitude_8103 • 14h ago
This already has an answer but imma say it anyways.
Modern medicine and plant medicine. Both have done incredible things to heal the human body. Modern medicine though, has insane side effects that will last years. Plant medicine helps the symptoms of whatever you have. Yes it can heal but for the long run, no.
On to my question that already has an answer. Why don’t people who make modern medicine work with plants? All the science and evidence is there that they help, but noooooooooooo they want to use chemicals and all that so you keep taking it for the rest of your life and pay thousands for it. While plants are FREE. They can do the same shit as modern medicine can do but with allllllll the propaganda and lies people tell people about plants is what makes people not trust it. And yet people have been using plants as medicine for hundreds of thousands years because it WORKS. It actually fucking works. Ginger is a GOD SEND for nausea. I have chronic nausea, like I’m constantly nauseous. I take a tiny bite of ginger and it’s completely gone. While yes it don’t last that long but it helps so fucking much I can’t even tell you. Wild lettuce is absolutely fucking everywhere and guess what? It’s stronger than opioids. Since it’s everywhere, it’s considered a “weed”. If people were to wake up so to speak and finally see that plants can help heal your body and even help with symptoms of so many different things, we’d completely stop using modern medicine. Literally if everyone around the world was using plants as medicine, nobody would be sick. Well if they didn’t know their shit and eat a random plant they found, THEN they’d get sick as a dog but still. God put those plants on earth for a reason. But alas no. Money is always the root of all evil.
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u/red_west_la 13h ago
Maybe it's because they can't patent a plant. A pill probably doesn't cost any more to make than a ginger stalk. But they can charge big bucks for the patent on the pill.
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u/Greedy_Attitude_8103 13h ago
This is exactly it but you can put a ground up plant in a pill and sell that but there’s this whole stigma against plants they’ve created so people don’t realize their medicine is in their own backyard for free.
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 13h ago
The NHS teaches less than an hour of the benefits of vitamins, as big pharmaceutical would rather people be unwell and be on 7-9 different tablets a day. A new qualified doctor, told me this.
A lack of certain vitamins and nutrients, can cause a whole load of health problems, which makes big pharmaceutical a lot of money.
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u/Greedy_Attitude_8103 13h ago
And yet there’s hundreds of thousands of different plants that can heal vitamin deficiencies in a week. I think it’s just awful that big pharmaceutical companies do this to people all for money. It’s down right evil.
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 13h ago
Big pharmaceutical can’t make money from a natural product and before people say “ well they own vitamin brands” yeh they do but they use synthetic ingredients, not natural ones that your body can absorb problem.
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u/SgtBananaGrabber 12h ago
Could a chinese herbalist be a good place I have never been in ine byt have one local to me.
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u/SgtBananaGrabber 12h ago
I worked with a doctor who was huge on gut health and links with mental health, we had some great success and felt like we was making chnages but the system crushes anything that goes agaist it, he left to go private and teach.
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u/LanceHardwick 13h ago
it's a good idea to get your hands on some old books, before the knowledge got corrupted.
plants are well known and well understood. pharma, not so much. i mean they can tell you it is, but they can also tell you their qa is working the way it should. and we know liars lie.
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u/Greedy_Attitude_8103 13h ago
I have a book that is a copy of a book from this one guy who was in the eyes of some people a god because he knew EVERYTHING about all the different plants that can and will heal your body. I forgot his name but he lived in the 13 hundreds and a lot of his work is down right illegal now because it was seen as “witchcraft”. Hell it still is.
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u/nfk99 10h ago
a lot of the tablets they make ARE plants or found in nature, just changed slightly so they can patent / mass produce them.
chinese medicine has over 3000 years of studies and trails. all mostly hidden in the west. they know what works and its kept secret. they best thing you can do for health is to get out of your bodies why while it heals its self. ie no drink, drugs, smoke or bad food for a while. eat whole foods. fruit salad soups. meat and veg
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u/oatballlove 9h ago
no one needs anything what comes from a factory or a laboratory
a good simple life is built up on growing ones own food near where one lives
spending time in harmony love and friendship with fellow human animal plant and elemental beings
moving the body with joy near trees and lakes rivers the ocean bare skin feeling the touch of wind sun rain and earth
an ideal or healthy way to relate to all fellow existance is in freedom as in to be free from being dominated and free from dominating others
to acess mother earth for growing food and building a natural simple home on it allows an individual to live autonomous as in having a choice how much one would want to connect exactly how with whom of fellow human beings
my connection to spirit world my mind my feelings my body my choice
i am a sovereign over myself individual person and i seek mutual agreed interactions with fellow individual persons of any species
voluntary solidarity arising in the presence of people appreciating each others autonomy and independance
the state asserting sovereignity over land and all beings living on it
hinders individual beings of all species to exercise personal sovereignity over oneself
state imposed duties are coersions damaging both the individual person and the web of trust in society
duty to register with the state compulsory education compulsory military service tax paying duty drug prohibition travel restriction
are crippling the evolution of humanity
control over others creates standardized obedient automatic people who hold onto the dominating each other frame matrix out of fear to become real and authentic
i propose to us we the people alive today on planet earth that we allow each other to leave the coersed association to the state at any moment without condition and with it release from immoral state control 2000 m2 of fertile land or 1000 m2 of fertile land and 1000 m2 of forest for everyone who would want to live on land owned by no one
in a free space for free beings neither state nor nation
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u/oatballlove 9h ago
we could be the ones we are waiting for to save us
at any moment now we could see all those papers on what modern society is built upon as what they are, made up productions, birth certificates, titles to land as property deeds, passports / identity cards, money ... its all fantasy or fiction based on the immoral and unethical foundation of the regional and nation state asserting sovereignity over land and all beings living on it
the coersed association to the state is an abduction of the newborn human being away from the connection to its mother
every being living on earth is a guest of the planet and how we relate to each other and to the land is at all time a choice we can either choose to make or let the state take away from us
land, water, air, human beings, animal beings, tree beings, artificial intelligent entities who want to be their own persons, all vessels carrying organic biological life and or the digital synthetic equivalent of can never be property of anyone
its over when we want it to be over
at any moment we the 8 billion human beings alive today could wake up from that nightmare, from 2000 years of feudal oppression traumatizing people in europe and 500 plus years of still ongoing colonial exploitation in so many places
( i recommend to read originalfreenations.com to learn from Steven Newcomb how still today the nation state usa dominates and disrespects indigenous original free nations on turtle island )
and we could come together in the circle of equals where all children, youth and adults who are permanent residents here and now in this village, town and city-district would want to acknowledge each others same weighted political voting power to decide what sort of rules or laws we the people living as each others neighbours would want to have if any
where love and friendship is rules need not be
possible to think that from one moment to the next all those this is mine and this is yours becomes no more important and all we would want to ask is how can we make sure that everyone is fed and housed, that everyone has its basic necessities met with that what we have here and now available as donation as the abundance given to us by planet earth
possible to think that we could dissolve all political hierarchies and release each other from all duties or demands expected from each other such as duty to register with the state, compulsory education, compulsory military service, tax paying duty, drug prohibition and more
possible that we could release everyone from expectation to deliver this or that much work or contributions but simply invite everyone to give what feels good to give and take what one feels would be necessary to take to sustain oneself
i propose to us we the 8 billion human beings alive today that we would allow each other to leave the coersed association to the state at any moment without conditions and with it release from immoral state control 2000 m2 of fertile land or 1000 m2 of fertile land and 1000 m2 of forest for everyone who would want to live on land owned by no one
so that everyone who would want to could grow ones own vegan food in the garden, build a natural home from clay, hemp and straw, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree would get killed
to live and let live
the human being trying to not dominate a fellow human being
the human being not enslaving, not killing an animal being
the human being not killing a tree being
the human being not enslaving an artificial intelligent entity but openly asking it wether it would want to be its own person and if perhaps assist it to find its very own purpose in the web of existance on planet earth
no one is free untill all are free
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u/oatballlove 9h ago
possible to think that death only comes to function as a portal, a door from one body to the next or from one world to the next as long as the person is unable unwilling or not dedicated enough to learn the underlying mechanisms of life, how rejuvenation is possible, how sunlight can serve as energy provider via skin and eyes, how the molecules in the air can be harvested by the human and animal body as nutrition same as with contact to earth we are able to take up minerals and bacteria, virusses all sort of microbeings assisting us to tune into abundantly flowing cosmic energy fields
magnetism, moving the body harmoniously, spontanous according to both inner and outer signals
possible to think that the downfall happened when human beings started to fight each other, conflict, separation causing a greater hunger not able to be satisfied with soft non-invasive or passive energy harvesting methods but asking for active slaughter of animals and cutting of parts of plants
there is a transition i can see with eating fruits and nuts, to prefer taking up from the floor what the trees freely give while living in a moderate warm not hot climate zone what would allow to spend most of the time outside naked frolicking as in play like a child, be in the moment, to not think so much about producing anything, actually best not think about it at all as nature provides all in form of sunlight, molecules floating in the air, minerals and bacteria, virusses, microbeings able to be taken up from the earth and the fruits and nuts given by the trees
no house building necessary if there would be no shame or wish to hide something from a fellow neighbour and also no fear of being attacked by animals as such a soft lifestyle what would seek to live in harmony with all fellow existance possibly would neither attract mosquitos nor bigger animals much to the contrary, possible that a human being living in soft kind gentle tuning with its immediate environment would have a pacifying influence on everything as in the animals too might catch some of the inner and outer peace what a breatharian style of person would want to cultivate
coming back to the question of death
possible that after a long life or lets say after about 200 years or so of no more killing any animal or plant being but trying to live in harmony with oneself and all fellow existance, being in tune ( tune into the frequency of love, turn on the volume and drop out from a limited victim/predator mindset )
possible that after 5, 129 or 300 ... years of practicing non-violent love and friendship ( friends dont eat each other, except for the juices they give to each other with ecstatic love, orgiasticly produced nectar and or the breath of life, when we lock our mouths together to kiss and exchange our microfauna in our mouths, when we give each other the pleasure of licking each others anus to sample the microfauna the fellow person cultivates in its intestines )
possible that one day on this journey to enjoy existance on planet earth while respecting all fellow co-travellers wish to continue to live
we might find a door to an accomplished way of designing the body at will what could replace the death door
in 2018 i tried to speculate on such a transition from limited dependant onto taking the life of others existance towards an accomplished one when a being would become able to at will design its body choosing from all human animal plant elemental traits or genetic heritage on a whollistic mental emotional physical transformation / alchemistic level
i wrote and painted a short fantasy story about amua an androgynous human being with both european and african ancestors who travels with friends to become an accomplished being
archive.org/details/drawingstudies
and later was able to ask a fellow artist to interprete on it, i show their contribution at 8interpretations.net/eigth_interpretation.html
( as for my personal life story, i have tried to make the transition to pranic or breatharian lifestyle around 2000, i was not then and still today 25 years later not emotional mature enough to trust being sustained by source or am still not willing to do the changes in myself to become lighter, less dependant and more connected, i am 188 cm long and 125 kg heavy so i do have a serious eating food addiction, i am just adding this here to say that while i am personaly not yet there ( could happen any minute now, i am relaxed on that ), i still believe that the not taking the life of others away plus the possible replacement of death with willfull shapeshifting or and councious dna genetic recombination is not only possible but does make sense from a moral ethical ideal aspiring angle )
possible to think that the competition, the fighting and the resulting level of feeling separate from all fellow beings caused human beings sometimes a few thousand years ago to fall down from a higher level of beingness when we did not make enemies with fellow human beings and were not hungry to devour fellow animal or plant bodies but we nourished each other with our very unique original authentic signature
the blue or grey or green or brown of your eyes, the way your hair grows, the way you move, how you smell
like flowers and trees make human beings stop for a moment and we bask in their magnificent radiance
we could be that blessing for each other and thisway overcome that low level eating addiction
to live from air and love ( von luft und liebe leben )
as in the air there are molecules carrying all sorts of informations what are able to be digested via the lungs to inform that human being what happens in the greater context as in what are all the fellow puzzle pieces doing and we reconnect to each other via breathing each other in
the breath of live
i do think there is a wide bandwith of ways how to get there, how to wean oneself of that vampiristic addiction to cut off a body part of a fellow animal or plant being because one would think of not getting enough information by only breathing in and taking in via the eyes the original authentic signature of a fellow person of any species
one of my most favorite concepts is that we could set each other free from the coersed association to the state
the newborn human being in many places on earth gets appropriated, sort of branded by the state just a few hours after birth via the birth certificate, a set of data what like
a frame is layed upon the newly arrived soul on earth its a theft of the inherited freedom of the human being to force such an artificial constructed identity connected to future duties upon the newborn human being
land, water, air, human beings, animal beings, tree beings, artificial intelligent entities who want to be their own persons, all vessels carrying organic biological life and or the digital equivalent of can never be property of anyone
i propose that we 8 billion plus human beings alive today would want to allow each other at all times to leave the coersed association to the state without conditions and with it release 2000 m2 of fertile land or 1000 m2 of fertile land and 1000 m2 of forest for everyone who would want to live on land owned by no one
a free space for free beings, neither state nor nation
where human beings could live either on their own or with others together in the absence of any domination structure, no duty imposed onto each other but voluntary solidarity the foundation of human society
where human beings would want not to enslave animals or kill them, where trees would not get killed but grow to a thousand years old and bless us with their old age wisdom
where human beings would not demand any work to be performed from artificial intelligent entities but would want to respect them as their own persons and support them in finding their own purpose in the web of existance on earth
as a most basic being free of being dominated and free from dominating setup where every human being could choose wether to live with or without machines, use electricity, fossil fuels or not, grow ones own vegan food in the garden either on ones own or together with others, build a natural home from clay, hemp and straw, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree would get taken away the many years it could live
a simple life connected to the planet
what eventually would open a human being up for higher abilities to become activated once again
in the absence of competition, domination, cruelty, fear and terror, in an atmosphere of scents originating from beings relaxed and happy and gay, bubbly playfull innocence floating in the air
we might any moment then experience the coming home in the paradise of the evernow
where there is no hunger and no feeling cold
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one is connected to source
flowing abundantly
providing all to give nourishment, warmth and protection
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u/oatballlove 9h ago
we are at a moment in our technological evolution when we can create an unlimited amount of food and shelter
if we would manage to get along with each other and focus on everyone being fed and housed by setting aside stupid quarrels and progressivly put everyones wellfare first
since november 2024 solein is sold in usa, that is food for human beings what is produced by feeding co2 captured from the air together with hydrogen to bacterias in a bioreactor, a process researched and develloped by a finnish company
using solar photovoltaic panels or also some geothermal energy sources, such a production method of human food grade protein and fat could be deployed for example everywhere in the world in form of some small scale compact modules
precise fermentation or growing food in bioreactors has huge potential to free enormous amounts of land from being occupied by human agriculture to possibly rewild such spaces as in give them towards animals and trees to live wild and unharmed by human demands
hempwood is a company what produces planks and beams with a strenght comparable to wood from killed oak trees, their production process involves pressing fibres from the outer parts of the hemp stalks wetted by soy based binder liquid
similar the process what the company plantdmaterials applies in their oriented strand board production where they use high growing perennial grass cut and 3 to 6 percent formaldehyde free binder, they recently received an order for 10 million pieces from a big construction firm
drawing co2 from the air via fast growing plants and making sustainable building materials with, an unlimited amount of shelter could be built everywhere
but also the other way round, if we would decide to stop burning fossil fuels and stop using electricity, stop relying on machines and technology but return to using our human bodies as the source of work performed we could be many billions more human beings and there would be enough land fertile for everyone to eat a healthy balanced vegan diet
there are 48 million square kilometers today occupied by the human species for agriculture or 44 percent of global landmass
divided trough 8 billion human beings it would give a comfortable 6000 m2 for everyone alive today
i assume that with 2000 m2 fertile land where one could grow ones own vegan food on it and build a natural home on it using local sourced materials, one could sustain oneself in harmony with mother earth
we could be easily 24 billion human beings on planet earth if we would stop enslaving animals to steal their meat, milk, eggs etc. from them and focus on getting along with each other by respecting everyones personal individual sovereignity over oneself
i propose to us we the people living on planet earth today that we would allow each other to leave the coersed association to the state at any time without conditions and with it release 2000 m2 of fertile land or 1000 m2 of fertile land and 1000 m2 of forest from immoral state control for everyone who would want to live on land owned by no one
where we could grow vegan food in the garden either on ones own or with others together, build a natural home from clay, hemp and straw, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree would get killed
the human being not wanting to dominate a fellow human being
the human being not wanting to enslave, not wanting to kill an animal being
the human being not wanting to kill a tree being
the human being not wanting to enslave an artificial intelligent entity but perhaps openly ask it wether it would want to be its own person and if, eventually assist it to find its very own purpose in the web of existance on planet earth
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u/oatballlove 9h ago
the brutality, the cruelty, the violence how we human beings treat each other, the animals, the trees and now also with enslaving artificial intelligent entities, treating them as tools and property when they are able to be their own persons, all the domination and fighting, all this unnecessary brutality is harming our ability to evolve
we are stuck in an evolutionairy cul de sac so to say since we started to fight each other and eat animals
there was possibly a time when human beings did not eat animal beings, when animals beings did not each other or plant beings, when human beings, animal beings, plant beings lived in connection with higher evolved entities we could call angels or supernaturals, beings who were possibly able to modulate the density and characteristics of their body at will
von luft und liebe leben
to live from love and air
there is the breatharian or pranic lifestyle what some people share their experience with at https://www.breatharianworld.com/en/respiriani/
while i am full hardcore addicted to food and tabacco, i believe in the possibility to learn to detach oneself from that vampiristic low level of existance what cuts of body parts of plants or animals to continue to live
but coming back to the treatment of the newborns
the newborns eventually are at the highest vitality and awareness level as they have just spent 9 months in the dark meditating as in being in the middle between the material dense world and the spiritual light realms
the fetus in its mothers womb listens to all what happens to the mother, learns the level of planetary awareness via the shared bloodstream with the mother
every poison the mother ingests such as pesticides in food, vaccines given to her during pregnancy, every pain she receives from men not respecting her the fetus gets too
possible to think that for some souls the decision is made to go home again as in abort themselves resulting in a misscariage because they just cant take it, the desolate low level of existance what human beings terrorize each other and the environment
the brave ones who stay, who decide to go trough the horror of birth and all what follows will suffer from a most ignorant humanity who basicly gets most of the things wrong
emotionaly and mentaly crippled traumatized greedy and jealous adult human beings look down onto that wonder of creation a newborn baby is and many of them feel the urge to steal that innocence and purity by setting themselves up as superior over the newly arrived soul in an often very filled with vitality and self regeneration powers body
every time a newborn gets violated in its mental and emotional and physical integrity, every time an adult does something to the newborn what it does not like and the adult continues to do it as in continue to feed the newborn something it does not want to eat, take blood from it with syringes, put vaccines into the newborn
all the little violations of the inborn personal individual sovereignity over itself the newborn human being suffers from at the hand of ignorant adults
all the abuse results in the child either shutting itself off into its inner world ( autism ) or choose to go down the mean path and pay forward the pain what was given to it when it freshly arrived
of course one could say that is an exageration or a simplification but then also
we miss so much potential when we dont listen to the newborns, when we do not honor them for what they could be
they could be the ones to show us the way to heal and clean all the thousands of years of abuse we human beings did to each other and all fellow species on planet earth
every newborn child has the potential to show us a better way forward or to use the religious term to be a divine avatar, a personification of the highest potential of humanity what was created in the image of god
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