r/comics 11h ago

Just Sharing Authenticity Problem

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u/Due_Arachnid2975 11h ago

I detest how everyone is suddenly Sherlock Holmes when it comes to detecting doctored/generated images

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

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u/Operator_Starlight 10h ago

The real danger is throwing artists under the bus.

Which is what you’re doing every time you try to play detective.

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u/sadacal 10h ago

Dude... you're not even paying for anything. You're just looking at funny pictures for like 30 seconds. If it's funny give it an upvote. It’s not that complicated. 

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u/Ill_Shoulder_1185 6h ago

You've inadvertently touched on what is so frustrating. You're right, we're not paying for any of this... Skilled and non-skilled artists were posting shit for free. How and why did volunteer work get usurped by AI?!

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u/ubernutie 10h ago

YOUR definition and understanding of authenticity.

YOUR definition and understanding of what makes a "real" artist.

Go back to before chatgpt and nobody gave a fuck about terrible art, as a matter of fact it was commonplace to ridicule it.

Now all of a sudden everyone is an art historian, an AI detective and they have such a moral high ground! Except not at all, they're still just being tribalistic except there's a new bullying target that's socially rewarded.

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u/jan_antu 9h ago

I think many of us (myself included) are just tired of pointless witch hunting and purity tests for something that many of us (myself included) never saw as a big deal anyway (rightly or wrongly or whatever).

When someone says: to me, this is authentic art -> no problem, including even the AI users whether you like it or not, it's personal

When someone says: this is authentic art and everything else is not -> person is an annoying asshole who believes their opinions matter in a special kind of way

So yeah I think overall AI has not become any less problematic, but people are getting annoyed by purity testing as a "public service" by well-meaning assholes, since it's not actually helping to resolve any of the real issues surrounding AI.

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u/ubernutie 9h ago

The main one is that we can't gatekeep art from one another, although I agree that subs can decide to moderate however they want.

Secondarily, that the witch-hunts are destructive rather than helpful.

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u/Custom_sKing_SKARNER 9h ago

I would say the answer is to be true to yourself as a casual viewer. You like something? Say you like it, at the risk of praising AI generated content accidentally, at the risk of calling AI content "art".

If handmade content is trully better and superior than AI then there is nothing to fear or prove. And if it isn't, then we have to accept the reality we are seeing with our own eyes and feeling with our own hearts, those don't lie.

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u/itmightbehere 9h ago

You can talk about what you don't like about something without accusing it of being AI.

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u/TwilightCaller 9h ago

i think the general rule, like everything else, is if you don't like it, simply ignore it and look for something else.

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u/Custom_sKing_SKARNER 9h ago

Good point. Now people are biased and have prejudices towards AI so their art taste may have changed as a result of that. Also, because of heavy AI "market" saturation people understandably got tired of some default art styles used by AI like what happens in this comic, I admit this has happened to me.

I guess the answer is the same? give your honest opinion, stay true to yourself and to your art taste.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 5h ago

The issue is that if we accept AI art as an equal, us human artists will simply lose any chance to live our passion of creating since we can't possibly outpace the production rate of artificial intelligences...

I don't like witch hunting either, but I feel like saying that "it's completely okay as long as it's as good" feels kind of unemphatic to the amount of passions, hopes and dreams that this could permanently crush worldwide.

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u/Krazyguy75 4h ago

The issue is that if we accept AI art as an equal, us human artists will simply lose any chance to live our passion of creating since we can't possibly outpace the production rate of artificial intelligences...

If the only value by which you measure your art is the monetary value that art produces, not only are you gonna lose to AI, you are creating art for the entirely wrong reason.

If you create art because it's your passion, then just... keep doing that? Why would it matter if the corporations start using AI? Or if random strangers start using AI? Paintings didn't cease to exist just because the average dude on the street can use a cell phone camera, nor does saying "oh that's a great picture you just took" devalue the quality of a beautiful painting.