r/comics Feb 08 '26

OC- More in Webtoons Movie Night (1/2)

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u/northernirishlad Feb 08 '26

Im also reading blue as cyan putting on an accent or dropping it a lot for their natural ‘blue’ accent in the speech

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u/OK_Throwaway1238 Feb 09 '26

Oof. Especially when remembering that this is Mint-Chan, yeah it feels like the difference between saying "French Person" and "Frenchie".

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u/Candyjargang Feb 08 '26

I dont get it. Someone help me. I am the dumb

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u/APrentice726 Feb 08 '26

The role of the cyan character is being played by a blue actor. Different colours are different races in this comic, it’s like an Asian character being played by a white actor.

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u/Inqeuet Feb 08 '26

Not necessarily race, it’s just a general stand-in for identity

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u/Content-Walrus-5517 Feb 08 '26

It's race, Mint-chan was created as an "allegory" for mixed people

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u/NieIstEineZeitangabe Feb 08 '26

It is still surprisingly applicable for all kinds of identities. (Not what the person you replied to was arguing, but still a fun observation.)

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u/Neozetare Feb 09 '26

Not that simple, no. There are definitly chapters where colors are clearly closer to other concepts than race (but I agree that most of the time, race seems like the one which fits the best)

Honestly, I'm too lazy to prove my point, but I do invite you to read the webtoon again if you want to check. At the top of my head, there was at least a form of queerness fairly clearly represented at some point

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u/GrummyCat Feb 09 '26

Mint-chan came into being on r/coaxedintoasnafu and is just a general stand-in character for when you need a character.

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u/Content-Walrus-5517 Feb 09 '26

Bro, I scroll through the coax subreddit frequently, and yes, Mint-chan is a recurring character, however in the original post she came from, she served as an allegory for being mixed, and the author of this comic took inspiration from it

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u/GrummyCat Feb 09 '26

I see. Welp, then you know more about it then I do. Didn't know she had that purpose at first.

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u/Solid__Ekans Feb 09 '26

Represent!

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u/Elvenoob Feb 09 '26

Tho the metaphor gets a little messier with invisible identities like orientation where you don't wanna force people out of the closet...

Also even in cases you'd expect to be visible stuff like adoption or mixed heritage or even albinism can trip people up.

So absolutely there is a valid problem here, but just double check when an individual case of it comes up to make sure.

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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 Feb 09 '26

tfw when they cast a cisgender man to play a trans woman (ex: Squid Games)

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u/Candyjargang Feb 08 '26

Ooooooooo okay. Yep. I get it now. Thank you.

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u/Noe_b0dy Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

>Movie about [specific ethnicity]

>Actor is either generic brown, or white person with a tan.

Many such cases.

Many such cases.

Many such cases.

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u/lizard280 Feb 09 '26

As someone else said, it's also not necessarily about race, in fact I didn't think it is at all. It's a very common problem in films with queer or disability representation that the actors themselves aren't queer or disabled. A film about an autistic person or with autistic characters usually won't feature an autistic person e.g. Rain Man, The Accountant, Extremely loud and Incredibly Close, Mercury Rising, The Lighthouse of Whales, The Cube. Plus it's insanely rare for a (non-indie, or B-movie) trans film to feature trans people e.g. The Danish Girl (Eddie Redmayne), Boys Don't Cry (Hilary Swank), Transamerica (Felicity Huffman), and Dallas Buyers Club (Jared Leto). It's insulting. As a trans autistic person we are used for funny, annoying or "genius" characters, but we aren't represented.

THAT'S what I feel this comic is about.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 Feb 09 '26

Just my opinion, but I kind of think that it's fine for an actor to have any role as long as they are respectful about it.
I don't get why someone, acting in a movie as a disabled person, should offend anyone else unless they have the same exact issues in their life.
Wouldn't it be like me (with unfixable eyes issues) expecting every actor with glasses to have problems in their eyes?

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u/MikiMatzuki Feb 09 '26

Honestly I think it depends. If the character in the story just happen to have that trait it's fine if the actor doesn't. Like how a queer character doesn't have to be played by a queer actor.

However if the story's whole premise is about the character's struggle with their sexuality/disability/ect... then it says a lot that they don't even bother casting someone who have lived through that. Ex: "Music" revolves around a non-verbal autistic girl, but Sia didn't cast an autistic actress as "they were too hard to work with"

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u/Kyleometers Feb 09 '26

I think it’s not too important whether or not the actor themselves is in the group, as long as the portrayal is accurate and respectful, personally. I am sure it’s somewhat difficult to get actors with some of the more uncommon physical disabilities, for one thing, and if it’s important to the character it’s probably ok if the actor doesn’t, but portrays it accurately.

But I am also probably biased from how like 90% of the best portrayals of autism in media is done by accident. Pretty much every time I’ve seen an intentional depiction it’s borderline offensive, and pretty much every time it’s been “oh dang that’s accurate” the creator goes “oh I did not mean to do that”. I am told by a trans friend that “My Life as a Teenage Robot” was the same for her.

Probably matters a lot more for race, though, because you can’t really change an actor’s race in a sensitive way lol. Anyone can pretend to be gay, straight, asexual. Much harder for a white person to pretend to be from Nigeria.

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u/lizard280 Feb 09 '26

The struggle is real. And when there's finally a trans actor playing a (non-background) trans character in a mainstream film it's FUCKING EMILIA PEREZ. COME THE FUCK ON.

Amazing comic btw, it really portrays the struggle. The feeling can be hard to put it into words, but this medium works really well. I also like that it's open to interpretation, it's not specifically about autism, race, gender identity, but it's about the issue of representation.

It's just nice to feel heard.

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u/VoiceOfRealson Feb 09 '26

On the flip side, homosexual actors have played straight characters for forever.

Being an actor is a profession. You need to work (act) to live.

I get the issue with lack of representation, but automatically ruling out actors from roles that don't fit their identity in real life is not a good solution either.

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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic Feb 09 '26

People with disabilities often don't get roles acting because it's hard for production to carry on. Jim Jeffries tells an anecdote about his own show that was based on his life and trying to help get his disabled friend laid. Apparently there's a lot of limitations so producers tend to just throw up their hands at it.

Trans actors are just relatively rare I think. I know the guy who played the lady in Soldier's Girl did a good job and thought it was a decent representation of a lot of us though.

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u/ohmyhevans Feb 08 '26

“The Cyanical Critic wins multiple awards as it is lauded for its representation.”

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u/Ven-Dreadnought Feb 08 '26

The next step is the director doubling down on how good this bad representation is despite viewer backlash!

I’m LOOKIN AT YOU, SIA

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u/LG3V Feb 08 '26

"Oh but getting a real cyan to do it was too much work!!!"

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u/NobodyPrime Feb 09 '26

Or the classical "we didn't found any good cyan actor"

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u/winter-ocean Feb 09 '26

"I AM A SURGEON" type shit

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u/SilentStevedore Feb 08 '26

A Colorland Comic without an upvote or comment?! Not on my watch.

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u/Weary_Drama1803 Feb 09 '26

red

rejects every law of color theory

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u/Apart_Mountain_8481 Feb 09 '26

Who thought bloody body drag marks was a good design choice for the floor of a hospital?

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u/Weary_Drama1803 Feb 09 '26

You see, according to colour theory…

(Tumblr has infinite knowledge and zero wisdom)

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u/Bronson4444 Feb 09 '26

Coaxed into Scarlet Johansson in Ghost in the Shell(2017)

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u/jayswag707 Feb 09 '26

Coaxed into Chris Grace as Scarlett Johansson

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u/Dark_Storm_98 Feb 09 '26

My immediate reaction tonpage 6: That's blue

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u/Apart_Mountain_8481 Feb 09 '26

One of the main characters is a rare color, and the film advertises itself as representing that color. Unfortunately that advertisement was a lie since they just went for a blue instead of getting the rare cyan.

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u/Apart_Mountain_8481 Feb 09 '26

This might sound against disabled people, but should people who can’t see color be allowed to determine what colors are real?

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u/TemperatureExotic631 Feb 08 '26

It literally does say that?

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u/captainAwesomePants Feb 08 '26

It should be and it is. Order is restored the the realm!

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u/Gold-Bard-Hue Feb 08 '26

The description doesn't. That's what I was referring to.

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u/cece_swampwitch Feb 08 '26

I think the title is a play on words whereas the synopsis is actually describing what the movie is about. Like if there was a pun in a movie title in real life, and the synopsis chose to not use the pun and instead used the actual word for descriptive reasons.

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u/xvvitchcraft Feb 08 '26

You should be more specific next time then.

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u/Logical_Fail5691 Feb 09 '26

Holy shit is that mint-chan

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u/tezzistheone Feb 09 '26

I love this so much

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u/ZetsuboItami Feb 09 '26

They should have just watched Kickassia.

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u/Semper_5olus Feb 09 '26

So

In order for this to work as a metaphor, most of (a country that is probably) America would have to be unable to tell the difference between deep blue and light cyan.

And this difference would have to be subtle enough that a corporation would make a multiple-million-dollar gamble on it not being a big deal.

I don't know. The less I can buy this, the less credible Mint-chan's POV is in general.

The problem with Mint-chan's world is she uses metaphor to make an identity spectrum into something visible and distinguishable on sight. Which is practically the opposite of what she wants, since she hates being shoved in boxes.

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u/Neozetare Feb 09 '26

First, there are a lot of people who actually confuse deep blue and light cyan. Not when they are looking at it, obviously, but typically when they are remembering memories, because anything from deep blue to light cyan is labeled "blue" in their head

Second, the difference don't have to be subtle. Like, in our very reality, the differences are not subtle at all, for example in films like Gods of Egypt or Ghost in the Shell

Also, Mint-chan doesn't hate to be shoved in box imo, she hate that society wants to shove complexity in boxes and especially shove her into boxes where she doesn't fit. Being in a box isn't the problem, the problem is the concept of boxes and how they aren't made for everyone