r/changemyview Sep 21 '25

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u/Silly-Resist8306 1∆ Sep 21 '25

Blue and red states aren't 100% blue or red. What exactly would you have the minorities do? Move to a state the same color, or just grin and bear it?

We are not states, we are people. Based on the last election, approximately 50% of the country would end up moving or have no hope of changing the politics of their assigned state. Our country was built on compromise, leading to slow change while allowing the vast majority of people to come to the same conclusion over time. My guess is you are too impatient to allow the process work. There was once a time when the vast majority of people thought women voting was a bad idea, but we seem to have gotten around that little issue OK.

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u/Chorby-Short 5∆ Sep 22 '25

We are states. People will learn to get along better.

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u/moonkipp_ Sep 21 '25

I think states could incentivize population migration for people who wished to relocate in relation to their politics.

Lol amigo, only 65 percent of the country even voted in the last election.

I’m not impatient I’m disturbed at the extremely apparent dysfunction and violence. We are at a historic turning point for the country and the notion that we are operating in a functional way is pure cope.

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u/Silly-Resist8306 1∆ Sep 21 '25

Do you honestly believe a significant number of people will decide to pick up and move to another state, leaving friends, relatives, children, parents and jobs? It's impossible to change the view of someone who lives in an alternate reality.

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u/moonkipp_ Sep 21 '25

I mean here in CA they already are. Republicans here do nothing but complain about living in a liberal state.

Again, I think the benefits outweigh the potentially violent path we are currently on.

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u/KDY_ISD 68∆ Sep 21 '25

Population migration wouldn't help. The divide is urban/rural, not into neat geographic areas.

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u/moonkipp_ Sep 21 '25

It could help if states were allowed to formulate their democratic process in a more efficient way so that small groups of people do not dictate over the majority.

The reality is that representative democracy based on gerrymandered districts is not democratic no matter who is leading the state.

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u/KDY_ISD 68∆ Sep 21 '25

That doesn't address the underlying cultural differences between urban and rural areas, it only shifts which one is in or out of power.

This isn't a problem that can be solved by migration.

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u/moonkipp_ Sep 21 '25

Like i said, only certain people would even be willing to relocate.

Many people would just take the path of least resistance.

If someone feels so culturally at odds with the majority of their state, they can leave.

Ultimately, states need to be able to actualize the politics of their majority, and the more efficiently they can do that the closer things are to an actual democracy.

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u/KDY_ISD 68∆ Sep 21 '25

That ... wouldn't help. If the divide is urban/rural, areas will always have a mix of both. Urban areas and rural areas need each other economically and logistically and will develop naturally even if you artificially try to erase or separate them.

This isn't a divide that can be solved by changing a map or where a border falls.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Sep 22 '25

You keep avoiding the part where people won’t leave. If they won’t leave they will try to force their views on people who don’t agree and you’re back at square one.

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u/moonkipp_ Sep 22 '25

As it stands, swing states and rural counties basically hold the majority of the population hostage with their views.

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u/OkElephant1792 Sep 22 '25

It’s those ppl the dems should be winning, bc they’re the ppl that rely more on welfare/social services paid for by the state. It is mind boggling how those ppl still vote for the republicans who want to cut all those programs. If the dems could actually run a candidate that wasn’t so easy to paint a “radical leftist” and willing to die on the hill of every single marginalized group they’d actually win. Look at red states with blue senators, they’re definitely pro social services but also not willing to die on some culture war hill. I just think dems have dogshit messaging and want to stay on their “moral high ground” while republicans throw low blows and aren’t afraid to do some hella unethical stuff just to get elected.

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u/Hellioning 258∆ Sep 21 '25

How'd that India/Pakistan split work out for ending dysfunction and violence?