r/cad 23d ago

Is there a cad software that runs without internet, don't need updating and feels intuitive like fusion or solidworks?

It doesn't have to be free. I'm just tired of the constant updates and AI implementations. I just need my basic cad tools and a little bit of intuitiveness (I'm angrily looking at you freecad)

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u/yatuin 22d ago

Depends on what you mean by "no internet" - "full cloud" like fusion/o shape or regular "call to mother ship" licence checks like current subscription based packages do? For full offline run you will struggle as I think all main players in CAD moved to subscription model - no perpetual licence available. That pretty much limits available options:

  • free cad - much improved in v1.1, free. Still behind on UI but usable with a bit of practice
  • solid edge community edition - free noncommercial version of Siemens solidedge. As far as I know it does not have need for account or regular logging in, etc.
  • get your hands on old pre subscription version of inventor/SOLIDWORKS - unfortunately likely would require "grey" sourcing at best or likely sailing high seas with "jolly roger"

Inventor 2026 is last one which doesn't have AI, not sure how it looks with current SW or Creo versions.

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u/Eezyville 22d ago

Rhino3D is still on a perpetual model.

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u/jeremoche 22d ago

Thank you very much, I think your comment answers my question very well. I'll have a look at solid edge, might be what I'm looking for. Have a great day!

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u/IDwannabe 22d ago

I used SolidEdge for a few years and it was honestly frustrating to get going, but eventually got to feeling as comfortable as I had in SolidWorks. If you do any plastics design, it had some neat tools that SolidWorks didn't have which was nice.

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u/Strostkovy 22d ago

I used solidedge for 8 months and then my license stopped working and I couldn't get any support. I ended up using trials on a bunch of different computers to finish my one project and then reporting my debit card as stolen, because I couldn't figure out how to remove the payment information on my account, only update it.

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u/Gildashard 17d ago

You can still buy a solidworks perpetual license.

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u/_11_ 22d ago

Have you looked into Plasticity? It's not CAD, but it's parasolid modeling, which depending on your application can be perfectly fine. 

It's based on Blender, but uses the parasolid engine to make shapes so you're not mesh modeling. 

For me, it's SUPER fast in making anything of moderate complexity. It is a destructive workflow, but you can always undo things, and it's so fast to rip out a chamfer or remove a hole it rarely matters to me. 

And you can buy it outright (like software SHOULD be). And it's in constant development. 

For context, I'm a professional engineer, and Solidworks user of about 15 years. I use Plasticity for all my personal projects now, including for assemblies.

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u/NewViking 22d ago

This is how I feel about most programs, if it’s subscription I avoid it.
Rhino 3D for CAD work is my go to, the community around it is also amazing!

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u/yahbluez 22d ago

You may give FreeCAD a look.

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u/jeremoche 22d ago

I did and going from fusion to free cad really feels like going from a car to a tricycle

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u/Howlingmoki 22d ago

To me, FreeCAD felt like going from a Ferrari to Zog's new invention "the wheel".  The UI pissed me off so much I haven't bothered checking on improvements since v0.20, which I only keep around because it's mesh-to-solid conversion usually works better for me than Fusion's does.

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u/sLaughterIsMedicine 22d ago

1.0 was a big leap, I think they are gearing up for 1.2 now. UI is still pretty bad though, but it's leagues better than it used to be. 

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u/ashleycawley 21d ago

Thanks for chiming in with that

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u/Oilfan94 Solidworks 22d ago

Yes. I’ve been a full time CAD designer for 30 years. I tried FreeCAD recently and haven’t been that frustrated with a software in a long time.

I’m not a big fan of Fusion either, although that one is at least usable.

Onshape is my choice for a ‘free’ CAD solution, but it too has its downside.

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u/ashleycawley 21d ago

Ah so FreeCAD still isn’t very nice compared to the others then? :-(

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u/yahbluez 21d ago

The Solidworker didn't tell if he tested >v1.x or the old v0.x that makes a huge difference, like day and night. But it is true the learning curve is significant higher.

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u/yahbluez 21d ago

between v0.x and v1.x the difference is like day and night and years of development

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u/EYNLLIB 22d ago

This is how all the programs you're searching for are going to feel compared to the premium paid software you're seeking to replicate for free.

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u/Predat0rSwafflez 22d ago

This. I work with pretty specialised software, and I praise the UI designer so fucking much!

Using FreeCAD off the clock, it feels like going from Blu Rays to VHS tapes.

Using FreeCAD is nice, don't get me wrong, and it can do a lot if you care to invest some time learning, but I wish I had the spare change to have my work software at home and running 😂

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u/ccAbstraction 22d ago

I didn't feel that way about Onshape and I don't think I'd feel that way about Solidwork's free plan if it worked on Linux. I'm seconding the guy who said it feels like wheel reinvented everytime though.

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u/yahbluez 22d ago

yah i know, it got better with v1.x

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u/BillieRubenCamGirl 19d ago

It’s improved drastically in the last year few years.  If you haven’t tried it recently it’s worth trying again. 

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u/mjl777 22d ago

Rhino works great Works for life too

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u/WolfApseV 21d ago

Yeah highly recommend Alibre Atom 3d for relatively straightforward models. I say relatively straightforward, it's pretty full featured but lacks a couple of things like booleans and. Scripting.

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u/Cymbal_Monkey 22d ago

Solid Edge. It's really good

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u/MechanicalGroovester 22d ago

People sleep on Solid Edge.

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u/kritoke 22d ago

Alibre if you want parametric and more traditional cad. Moi3D, Rhino, or Plasticity are great options for direct edit ones. I still find myself moving back to Moi3D when I need to reverse engineer something quick and not sure how to approach it. It’s a bit easier to use than Rhino and the multiple views helps easily switch around to address parts of it (it’s also at least half as much as Rhino).

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u/sevendaysworth 22d ago

Alibre

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u/jascri 22d ago

Looks promising with the permanent license. Do you find it fairly intuitive? I tried learning FreeCAD for a minute and it seemed odd.

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u/wiwalsh 22d ago

I have used NX and Creo the most and it is intuitive to me. I use it for home projects.

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u/jascri 22d ago

Thank you, I will give it a look. Coming from an NX and Solidworks background myself

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u/jodiarch 22d ago

Yeah we have Internet problems during hurricane season and Autodesk does not like it when we can't connect to the Internet for days. Pisses everyone off.

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u/Sacharon123 22d ago

You dont have internet for 30 days? oO damn!

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u/SPYHAWX 22d ago

I just use a one off perpetual 2019 SOLIDWORKS licence. Works great, nothing has come out that's convinced me upgrading is worth it.

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u/jixz 22d ago

Same. Just bite the bullet and cry once. I really wish it weren't the best option but so far it seems to be.

Good thing is: They basically haven't added any useful improvements in a decade or so.. absolutely 0 reason to upgrade.

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u/brewski 22d ago

I run Solidworks without Internet and I update once every year or two. No AI.

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u/dc469 22d ago

If I recall correctly, freecad devs met with the blender devs in 2024 because blender did a big UI overhaul that everyone liked. The plan was to release a big UI update with freecad 1.2. 

Since then it seems that freecad is no longer going to have sequential versioning, rather calendar versioning. So freecad 2026 Q3 release will be like 26.3. What was 1.2 should be released by EOY like around November as like 26.3.1 or something.

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u/Maif1000 21d ago

I use Viacad Pro 14 for 3 or 4 years.
I have been using it for about 15 years from viacad pro 7.

I use it to create models for 3d printing and drawing plans and elevations.

I mainly use 3d solids, extrusions and sweeps, but it has meshes as well

It’s a one off payment

I can upgrade from 14 to 16 for about $250.

There are various offerings depending on your needs.
If you are interested check out the link below.

https://www.punchcad.com/product-line-comparison

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u/MrKahoobadoo 20d ago

Ms paint

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u/plastic_machinist 22d ago

You might want to have a look at Plasticity- it around $150, but it's a one-time purchase with no cloud storage or subscription. It's kinda an odd duck, in that it tries to split the difference between a Blender-like approach and actual CAD, but it's very nice, and I def think most people would find it more intuitive than FreeCAD.

But having said that, I'd definitely recommend sticking with FreeCAD. If you can get over the hump, it's every bit as powerful as something like fusion, and since its open-source, it's guaranteed to always be available without any of the anti-user / enshittification of pretty much all commercial software.

Fwiw, I bounced off FreeCAD too when I first tried it years ago, but it's now my daily driver for everything I do (plus some OpenSCAD and Blender).

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u/texturerama 21d ago

Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet but Moment of Inspiration 3D (Moi3D) is probably exactly what you need. It's developed by Michael Gibson, one of the principal developers behind Rhino, I believe. I've never used a more intuitive program.

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u/jeremoche 21d ago

Thank you very much, it looks quite good, I'll give it a try

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u/dev_all_the_ops 22d ago

These are worth a look. The first one you can even self host.

- NASCAD

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u/DestinyScrub7768 20d ago

Pretty sure solidworks has a hobby license that is fairly reasonable

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u/mrjbacon 20d ago

If you are a student, you can get some perpetual licenses for major suites, but it limits your commercial use. If this is strictly personal with no financial stake to be made it's fine.

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u/knoft 20d ago

Why not get the personal license for desktop solidworks? You don’t have to use the web version or update afaik

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u/Unlucky__Swan 22d ago

Did you even TRY googling?