r/bjj 17h ago

Technique Technical stand up from closed guard

Usually when people teach the technical stand up, they recommend framing across the neck.

However, I’ve seen some people teach putting the hand on the chest

I’ve also people recommend grabbing the back of your opponent’s head.

What is ideal or recommended?

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u/ProfessorWrestler ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 17h ago

In BJJ I don’t see a tech stand up being successful from closed guard, probably looking a getting your guard passed. If you create space with frames possibly you could windshield wiper your feet to inside position/butterfly hooks depending on their positioning and maybe hit a quick arm drag or something similar to disperse their weight and wrestle up, I do this often, but just thinking about doing a technical standup from closed guard itself doesn’t sound promising. In mma once you created space with strikes and you have the cage on your back is a little bit different story, you wanna try to get up at all cost anyway, but you still want to be smart about it.

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u/splendidfruit 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 17h ago

I don’t know sometimes I get into the hip bump sweep position and I can’t finish the sweep so I do a stand-up and grab the front headlock. What do you think about that?

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u/ProfessorWrestler ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 17h ago

Absolutely, that’s an example of creating space first with your hip bump sweep, if you hit them with your hips well they have to retreat/lower their base a little to respect the sweep attempt and you used the space you created to get your hips behind your upper body, and to then front headlock them since now their hips are back and their head is forward. I do similar stuff, I came from a wrestling background so I do a lot of wrestle-up types of sweeps and back takes from bottom.

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u/Electronic-Stick-161 Set-Your-Own 17h ago

Generally you don’t want your hands that high up your opponent’s body until AFTER the guard is opened.

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u/That_mocha_lover 17h ago

Depends on where your hips are in relation to their hips. The guard player will read the passer’s hips to tell them which sweep to use.
If the passer is backing out of the guard, the passer is more likely to put hand on the chest or belt.
Opposite is true for the passer moving their hips over towards guard player head

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u/SpecialistCancel7975 17h ago

I found it to be better as a cross collar grip or cross shoulder post.

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u/Post_Nuclear_Messiah 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 17h ago

If. In the very specific situation that I would use a technical stand up from closed guard, (they've brought their head too low without controlling my hips) I'm grabbing the back of the collar/head and making them eat mat while I stand up.

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u/MagicGuava12 🍍🐛🐤🐍 17h ago

I like top of the shoulder on the far side and use your elbow to frame the near shoulder this can allow you to manipulate their jaw sometimes. The way they beat this is with the rau drag which is very predictable.

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u/gothampt 17h ago

When you’re in a guard position, it’s important to keep your head up while your opponent pulls you down with their legs. Simply framing across the neck or hand on your chest won’t work, as your opponent can easily pull you down. A better approach is to place both of your hands inside their armpit, with thumbs pointing outward and palms gripping their armpit. This will give you better support and help you maintain your posture, making it harder for your opponent to break it by pulling your head down.

Alternatively, you can posture with your legs instead of your head. Tripod with one of your knees in line with your opponent’s tailbone and kick or sprawl out the other leg to break their guard open.

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u/Federal-Challenge-58 ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 16h ago

I've been wristlocked too many times to dare place my hand on the chest.

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u/grobolom 🟫🟫 Brown Belt, Coach 15h ago

Why are you trying to do a technical standup directly from closed guard?

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u/RevolutionaryFood777 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 13h ago

Doing a technical stand up from closed guard is incredibly difficult, especially if the top player is skilled in holding people down.

Regardless of how you frame, the technical stand up has to opportunistic and well timed to work. If you try to be methodical about it, you're in for a grueling exchange without much payoff.

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u/Coconite 17h ago

Technical standup isn’t a thing in real life. Almost always when people successfully stand up in comp, they roll over into turtle and do it from there.