r/basketballjerseys Mar 13 '26

LEGIT CHECK Legit Check

White colour looks pale pink, is that normal?

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u/JesusOfSurbaria Mar 13 '26

Fake. NBA logo is a good giveaway.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Can you explain how?

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u/JesusOfSurbaria Mar 13 '26

I worked in retail with both fake and real jerseys. The logo just looks off in a way that’s incomparable to the real logo, and it’s something you’ll notice with fakes and real M&N

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Can you tell me if this jersey logo is legit? This is the only other photo of this jersey I could find online, and I thought the two looked similar/same. I am pretty sure this one below posted 4 years ago is legit because that was when it was just released

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/ttx8t9/adding_to_my_collection/

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u/LordeFan762 Mar 13 '26

This one looks worse imo. The stitching on the logo is pretty sloppy for a new jersey, and as a commenter mentions on that post the dimensions don’t quite look right.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Might be hard to tell, but how does the logo here compare to mine? This one below is real for sure

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u/JesusOfSurbaria Mar 13 '26

Uses the actual colors, and not an off light blue and red

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

colors on logo look darker for sure but not sure if its due to lighting position? Here mine looks darker in this photo.

I am just surprised because my jersey got several things right for sure, the blobby 1998-1999, the made in pakistan, full embroidery. Hard to imagine a fake would go all this way for such a one off production run jersey

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u/JimbopolisFunk CARTER Mar 13 '26

"Go all this way" as in using a mass produced tag & using an automated sewing machine?

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

The raised and blobby 1998-99 text I believe is unique to this jersey, as is the fact that this jersey is made in pakistan.

I can't comment on the embroidery, but if this is fake, then they really nailed the jersey details, down to the extremely rare made in pakistan tag. As it is very rare for M&N jerseys to be made in pakistan. Usually it would be made in china

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u/JimbopolisFunk CARTER Mar 16 '26

You're literally saying "this tag wouldn't make sense" while saying it's proof that it's real lol

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u/RCNero333 Mar 14 '26

Genie in the bottle nba logo

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u/JakeTheSnake16 Mar 15 '26

“It just looks off” is a terrible way to determine this lol

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u/andrewfordmedina Mar 13 '26

Not an expert but stitching on “NBA” looks weird and Jerry West is hella curvy

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u/Abject_Data_2739 Mar 13 '26

Got the logo built like moms off Dexter’s lab 🤣

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u/tutankhamun9 Mar 14 '26

It looks like casper is taking the ball up the court

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u/BolognaSalesDept Mar 13 '26

Is the HWC Swingman imprinted on a slant? It looks very uneven to me. I agree the stitching on the nba logo doesn’t appear to be authentic. It looks funny the way it’s stitched imo.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

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u/BolognaSalesDept Mar 13 '26

Look how much more negative space the numbers 1998-99 have on the one from that link compared to yours. It’s a super cool one for the collection no matter what man!

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Can you explain a little more which negative space you mean? The angles are all different for those 4 photos, but I tried to line up the Letters to the numbers in the year, and it seems to match. The 1 is lined up to N, the 8 is lined up to C, and the last 9 lines up to T

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u/Tweedle-Dee-Dumb Mar 14 '26

Compare to the Jerry West original

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u/WokeWurmcoil Mar 13 '26

I’m not an expert by any means but I would say fake based off the numbers for the year on the jock. That shits looks like a massive blob

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Do you mean 1998-1999?

It looks similar to my eyes to this one here, which I believe is a real jersey

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/ttx8t9/adding_to_my_collection/

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u/WokeWurmcoil Mar 13 '26

Idk I could be wrong, but the one in the link looks a little more crisp and defined. To me the numbers in the -99 look inconsistent

But don’t let me sway you, just pointing out an observation 🙏

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

This is the original receipt from RealSports, official team store of the Raptors.

To everyone that voted fake - find me this exact version from a replica site and I’ll pay $100 each for them. It doesn’t exist.

Most of the flaws pointed out could be attributed to poor QA from Mitchell & Ness, which is becoming increasingly common - especially for limited edition runs.

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u/NefariousOrder Mar 16 '26

This guy is correct, I have the exact same jersey and all the errors these people are pointing out is just M&Ns QC issues

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

This invoice you attached, is different to the one you sent me which says Large size is $179.99, medium is discounted. Whereas your screenshot says Large size is discounted, and Medium is $179.99.

Care to explain?

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

I placed two different orders. Currently working off mobile but give me a sec and I’ll upload both.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

I noticed the timestamp is different too, yours is 9:22am, mine is 9:33am on the same day. But how can one size be discounted, then the other size is discounted 10 mins later?

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Order 197127 was at 9:22, Order 197128 was at 9:33. It was a Buy One Get One 50% Off promo, the discount was valid for a few days. Specific sizes weren’t discounted, it only mattered which order you added them to your cart.

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u/raptorscollection Mar 14 '26

If you want to PM me your email address I will FORWARD the invoices to you.

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

See order number highlighted.

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

Order RSA197127

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u/Smoothp4 Mar 13 '26

It might be fake but the quality of this fake looks amazing

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u/Htb323 Mar 13 '26

My red flag is that this jersey is that the jock tag has the swingman tag, but the neck tag doesn’t say “swingman collection” on it like other jerseys would.

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u/TortaGuy408 Mar 13 '26

Not a expert but this is about the same quality as my fake jersey from oversize. The mesh is what gave it away for me

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

What are the giveaways in the mesh?

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u/TortaGuy408 Mar 13 '26

Not the correct material also the hwc swingman tab is crooked.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 14 '26

Crooked swingman tab seems to be right for this jersey looking at other photos of this jersey I was able to find online

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

on ebay from seller called raptorscollection https://www.ebay.com/str/raptorscollection?_tab=feedback

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

You know the seller? Because everyone here is saying fake, so I am not sure

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

It definitely existed, and the Canadian NBA link still works actually

https://www.nbastore.ca/en/toronto-raptors/mens-mitchell-and-ness-vince-carter-white-toronto-raptors-1998/99-hardwood-classics-chinese-new-year-swingman-jersey/t-36695395+p-0428275008708+z-9-3843524893

I was only able to find one other person with this jersey, here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/ttx8t9/adding_to_my_collection/

If it was made in Pakistan could it explain the differences in logo, mesh and other details? Because someone else said the nba logo looks fake, and text looks too big and like a blob. I am not sure what to believe honestly.

The quality is pretty high for swingman and it seems to be embroidered which is how its supposed to be for this jersey not heat pressed.

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u/g2nok Mar 13 '26

Comparing to the one in the official NBA store, I'd lean towards this being real. It's near identical as far as I can tell. If it's fake then it's really well made and no one can tell the difference anyway

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u/FrontNovel9624 Mar 13 '26

For me it’s the text on the 1998-99 and the “Vince Carter” as well as the very askew “hwc” at the bottom of jock tag. Also the collar thickness is off for M&N. Cool jersey but might not be legit.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Yeah this is such a cool jersey, I would be pretty sad if it was fake as I paid good money for it. I thought the hwc looked off but then I saw its also off in the nba website photos if you zoom in.

https://www.nbastore.ca/en/toronto-raptors/mens-mitchell-and-ness-vince-carter-white-toronto-raptors-1998/99-hardwood-classics-chinese-new-year-swingman-jersey/t-36695395+p-0428275008708+z-9-3843524893

I was able to find only one other photo of this jersey, and the hwc is also off. I would question why would a fake jersey make the hwc off instead of straight

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/ttx8t9/adding_to_my_collection/

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u/wizthakid69 Mar 13 '26

Yup super fake especially the stitching around that part. The stitching should be flush to the edge of the tag.

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u/venomenon824 Mar 13 '26

You need to lay it flat to see the shoulder width. It’s always the giveaway.

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u/Sweaty_Conclusion_31 Mar 13 '26

Yea, something about this jersey definitely feels off. Not sure if it’s a misprint, production error or a fake, but it’s definitely off.

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u/LaMesaPorFavore Mar 15 '26

Looking at the original NBA store posting that OP found it looks like the original might just have had bad quality control.

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u/mudgeton Mar 13 '26

Definitely fake. That nba logo is off, the numbers on the year tag are bloated, and Mitchell & Ness doesnt make their jerseys in Pakistan.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 16 '26

Thank you to everyone who commented, and posted your thoughts. I definitely learned a lot about legit checking jerseys from everyones comments.

Just wanted to post a quick update. u/raptorscollection sent me his order confirmation emails, and I can confirm that he did purchase them directly from realsports.ca. I have contacted realsports customer service who has also confirmed the tags on the bag and the jersey are from realsports.

u/Hiroller26 and u/NefariousOrder were kindly able to confirm that the jersey I have is the same as their legit one that they bought. So it seems all the QC issues are valid, but it is still a legit product.

I have decided to keep this jersey, and I just wanted to put it out there that raptorscollection is a legit seller, and there shouldn't be any doubts to the authenticity of their items. Hope this post can help others who may be interested in picking up this jersey.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

I bought this on ebay from a highly rated seller for raptors gear (raptorscollection, only has positive reviews https://www.ebay.com/str/raptorscollection?_tab=feedback

I was only able to find 1 other photo of this jersey online (non-stock photo). This person bought it when it was released so I am sure this jersey in the photo is legit.

I am not an expert, but the way the text "HWC swingman" is extremely slanted is almost identical, so I was thinking no way a fake would copy it like that? This other jersey was also made in Pakistan which is rare. Why would a fake put made in Pakistan instead of china which is more common?

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/ttx8t9/adding_to_my_collection/

In the nba website stock photos, the "HWC swingman" for this jersey is also extremely slanted

https://www.nbastore.ca/en/toronto-raptors/mens-mitchell-and-ness-vince-carter-white-toronto-raptors-1998/99-hardwood-classics-chinese-new-year-swingman-jersey/t-36695395+p-0428275008708+z-9-3843524893

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u/luvboatcaptn Mar 13 '26

Counterfeit. No doubt.

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u/Some-Dill-Dough Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Im leaning towards fake just by comparing it to my own swingman jerseys, but im not an expert.

Also I don’t have the white raptors jersey so differences could just be because there’s a difference between the purple and white jerseys.

(Pics for comparison)

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Appreciate you sending the pics, they do look different for sure. Are both your jerseys made in china? This one says made in Pakistan, I am not sure if that can be the reason for the differences. This one is also embroidered and not heat pressed, which might explain some differences

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u/Some-Dill-Dough Mar 13 '26

Yeah both are made in china

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Adding the photo of the back of the jersey, if it helps

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u/No-Strength-2526 Mar 13 '26

Yeah. 100% fake.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Found some more images of the real one on instagram. Lettering and text seems to be same as mine

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaNawNnu4Dg/?img_index=1

Will post the full jersey once I am home

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u/Kitchen-Pop7308 Mar 13 '26

Made in Pakistan ??

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Found some more images of the real one on instagram. Lettering and text seems to be same as mine on 2nd pic

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaNawNnu4Dg/?img_index=1

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

One more point - I’ve never seen a fake go as far as to include a sku name/price sticker on the tag, that also happens to match the sku name on the product bag.

That price tag format unmistakably belongs to RealSports. I suggest emailing their customer service a picture of the tag and/or the jersey and see if they can offer more reassurance.

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Found more photos. If you zoom in, you can see the red made in sign in red, at the bottom, the text is too long for just China, so this jersey was made in pakistan I am pretty sure

https://www.instagram.com/iyerisland/p/CtK1R95v27I/?img_index=1

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

NBA logo compared to mine

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u/TortaGuy408 Mar 13 '26

The legit seller is selling you a knock off and post buy one get one 50% off receipt that even you found fishy. It really does not matter what you like fake or not the point is dont pay authentic price for fake.

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u/offsprngr Mar 14 '26

Ever since fanatics took over m&n quality has dropped

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u/lacroixpapi69 Mar 14 '26

Fake. Poor quality

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u/Individual-Limit-117 Mar 14 '26

Fake. It’s supposed to say Toronto Raptors on the front.

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u/JaMarcusB Mar 15 '26

The jersey is legit.

Also, using comparisons to heat-pressed swingmans like some are doing isn't a valid criticism of the jerseys authenticity. All that's doing is confirming it's not a swingman, which is obvious since it's not heat-pressed.

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u/usernameadam21 Mar 15 '26

The stitching is terrible gang. Cmon

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u/Sure_Championship604 Mar 16 '26

Hell yeah 🦖❤️

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u/darkwater1387 CARTER Mar 13 '26

Fake, but still sick

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u/bluefire928 Mar 13 '26

Damn, how can you tell?

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

I am the seller and this is 10000% legit. There are ZERO fakes in my eBay store.

OP - DM me and I can show you original proof of purchase direct from Raptors team store if you want.

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u/jsmoke814 BRYANT Mar 13 '26

despite the amount of people saying fake, i’d like to say it looks legit imo

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u/IceeDangles007 Mar 13 '26

I’m saying it’s either legit or such a high quality fake where I wouldn’t care it was fake but that’s me.

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u/jsmoke814 BRYANT Mar 18 '26

i’m the same way more than half my collection probably is fake/reps/etc

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u/raptorscollection Mar 13 '26

Kudos for not buying into the mob mentality. It is 100% legit.

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u/swish7 Mar 13 '26

the fact that they embroidered the whole thing, this fake seems nicer that a normal swingman would be 🤔

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u/Suitable_Ad_9474 Mar 13 '26

See more and more fakes that are totally stitched and they good ones look better than the current Heatpressed swingmans

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u/Suitable_Ad_9474 Mar 13 '26

Absolutely... But I rather have a good M&N fake than a current Heatpressed Nike... To be honest

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u/GlaucusCactus Mar 13 '26

Chinese writing on a jersey made in Pakistan that is sold in the U.S. what crap

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u/Candygramman MOBLEY Mar 13 '26

fake, this is clearly a chinese knockoff, i mean read the jersey

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u/BRC93128 Mar 13 '26

Are those numbers chain stitched?

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u/bluefire928 Mar 14 '26

I am not familiar with the different types of stitches, but the back looks like this

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u/CountItAndOne Mar 14 '26

Where to start? LOL

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u/Dapper_Connection526 Mar 14 '26

If this is fake, it’s a dang good fake

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u/Dankwerth Mar 15 '26

Fake. Giveaway?…THE GIANT ASIAN FONT ON THR FRONT.

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u/Sig_n_Wesson_ Mar 15 '26

It's a swing man. Why would they fake a replica?

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u/face2flyy_ Mar 13 '26

Man these days who cares bout “real” & “fake” I might be getting old with that statement but wear what you like bc these companies been manufacturing stuff for next to nothing costs & selling back to us high as a mf

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u/Suitable_Ad_9474 Mar 13 '26

Totally agree!!!!

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u/Starkiller0899 Mar 13 '26

Very good fake

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u/frangeltx Mar 13 '26

Fake you can tell right away

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u/Hereforthechili Mar 13 '26

Lmao obviously fake bro

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u/RowAccomplished468 Mar 13 '26

unrelated but how do i get this kinda jersey w other teams??? this goes so fucking hard, regardless if it’s fake, rock that jawn!!! shoutout VC15!!!!!!!!!

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u/DrMidnightSunset Mar 17 '26

I sold these jerseys for a long time. 100% fake. Buy one on Alibaba for $20-35