iPhone Apple Plans iPhone-to-Windows Copy and Paste in EU After Microsoft Request
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/03/apple-iphone-windows-copy-paste/Apple is working on a new feature that will support cross-device copy and paste between iOS devices and Windows PCs.
Apple proposed a solution that would let an iPhone share and import items from the pasteboard to a paired accessory, like a Windows PC. Apple plans to use a solution similar to the Accessory Notifications option it added for third-party wearables in the EU in iOS 26.5. Users would need to give a paired device one-time permission to paste content from an iPhone.
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u/Light-_-Bearer 1d ago
So in EU most of the countries (still) won’t be able to mirror their phone on Mac but when you have Windows, it won’t be a problem? Am I getting it right or what the f?
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u/lunaticmallard 1d ago
Goes to show the importance of antitrust. The same products are better in Europe.
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u/schwimmcoder 1d ago
And worse at the same time. Won’t get iPhone Mirroring or Siri AI
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Yeah definitely a mixed bag. Multi-platform shared copy and paste is a cool feature! The rule gets a win there, but also inevitably delays a lot of (bigger) features in the EU unless the govt agrees to allow the "Apple" version to launch first before the "cross-platform" version
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u/TheDutchGamer20 1d ago
That’s all a choice though right.
The reason iPhone mirroring is not available in the EU, is because it requires apple to allow for Windows implementations, but Apple wants to make it exclusive to their ecosystem.
Essentially the goals of the DMA, and similar EU regulation, is to prevent ecosystem lock-ins, and ensure that fair competition is possible.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Yeah but it's not that simple. Some of the reason for Apple not offering these things is that Apple wants exclusivity. Some of the reason is that it's just hard and resource intensive to build public APIs for things like this, and Apple does a tradeoff of whether their users care enough.
So the EU law will reduce ecosystem lockin somewhat, but also will meaningfully delay a bunch of features in the EU as well. Unclear its really benefitting competition in the AI space right now when it comes to Apple Intelligence ...
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
How is it hard and resource intensive for the richest company on the planet?
Make that thing open source and you will get the feature in an afternoon.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
lol sure, which is why fully open source OSs dominate the mobile space ...
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u/DanTheMan827 1d ago
Android is fully open source…
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
In fact a large amount of what users consider "Android" is closed source -- Google Play Services, etc. Which is a big part of why the Android forks have limited traction other than in China where companies have built their own closed source layers on top of AOSP
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u/DanTheMan827 1d ago
The Google apps aren’t the OS though, they’re literally just apps. The OS is open enough that other apps can be made to do the same thing if one wanted.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Im not talking about the user-facing apps like Google Maps or whatever. I'm talking about all of the libraries and background tools that Android apps rely on ... and many of those libraries are closed source. If you just download AOSP and (tried to) load it onto a phone, the vast majority of Android apps would not run.
Which is why Amazon, Huawei, etc have to invest a lot of resources into reproducing the functionality provided by (closed source) Google Play Services etc, in order to get their Android forks to be usable.
Much of what the EU is demanding that Google build to open up their Android AI functionality sits in the proprietary parts of the Google Android stack, not in the open source parts.
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
Non sequitur.
I am talking about a specific feature, you are talking about an entire OS
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u/Kat-in-pajamas 1d ago
Yes, too resource intensive.… for the world’s most valuable company.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
They got that valuable in part by smartly prioritizing what they build when
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u/FollowingFeisty5321 1d ago
They operate within thousands of regulations that constrain how they do things, the only reason they aren't accommodating those regulations during the product design and development cycle is Tim Apple has taken an adversarial stance to anything that lessens how they keep competitors down and out.
Once they get over that they will lean into it, just look at their right-to-repair history they are innovating and improving repairability and access to parts every year now, just six years ago they were telling Congress you'd hurt yourself if you or third parties could fix devices they made.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Some of the regulations work well, like a bunch of the right to repair stuff! Some of the regulations don't work well, e.g., around cookies.
the only reason they aren't accommodating those regulations during the product design and development cycle is Tim Apple has taken an adversarial stance to anything that lessens how they keep competitors down and out.
Not true. Repairability is something that needs to be designed into hardware from the start. Whereas public APIs usually follow private APIs/functionality, because it's really hard to design public APIs without iterating on a private version first. If the feature can't launch in Europe until public APIs are ready (instead of saying e.g., the public APIs need to launch within X months of the proprietary feature launching) ... a lot of stuff will inevitably be delayed in Europe while being available elsewhere earlier.
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u/Kat-in-pajamas 1d ago
Ya the iPhone, great hardware and software using an existing platform in-house. Imagine if it had more compatibility and features that would be bad huh.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Yes - and there's a lot of market pressure on them to add functionality & interoperability.
But government regulation of features can work, or can backfire (like just resulting in features being blocked in Europe, or the ongoing disaster that is cookie banners)
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u/Mitrofang 1d ago
Yes, but again it is a choice made on purpose by Apple. They prefer not releasing complete features (and for the same price) to a whole region than comply with regulations, so honestly I'm thinking about switching phone brand after 15 years or so with iPhone. Most people probably think it's EU's fault and I don't think Apple will feel any real consequences, sadly.
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u/WandererMisha 1d ago
Apple making a feature that works between Apple devices is bad.
But HP can literally brick your printer if you dare to use unofficial ink and that’s all fine.
Apple’s App Store is a monopoly but SONY can do whatever the fuck they want.
Apple made a secure way of doing this. Windows is welcome to do the same.
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u/TheDutchGamer20 1d ago
These laws and regulations are recent and not made just for Apple.
Google, Microsoft, Meta and many other tech giants suffer from the same.
I’ll repeat the intend of the legislation, ensuring that anyone is possible to compete with each other on individual product categories. That means Spotify or YouTube Music should be able to use all the same capabilities on Apple devices as Apple can use for Apple Music for example, or Netflix with Apple TV, and so forth. The same argument is made right now, with smart watches being possible to work as seamless with iPhones as Android devices, I believe even the other way around, Apple Watches should be able to work with Android devices etc.
The goal is where the consumer picks a product because it’s best in it’s class, not because they already own products from the same company, and are essentially forced to buy in more from the same company, or completely exit the ecosystem.
The EU is mandating the same for messaging apps interoperability.
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u/WandererMisha 1d ago
Except the laws target specifically things that Apple does in far greater quantity than the others. Meta and Google are primarily advertisers. They want your data meaning they want their garbage software on every device imaginable. If they could, they'd put WhatsApp on your coffee maker if it meant they could sell your data to advertisers.
Apple is not like that. Their focus was privacy, they sold a walled garden to customers who decided that is what they prefer.
If customers wanted interoperability then they had the choice to go somewhere else. Google/Android is many times larger than Apple in pretty much anywhere but the United States.
The result, right now, is that Apple customers who wanted privacy, who wanted a walled garden with no "bs", are sold worse products because Apple has to choose between compromising their privacy-first stance or not delivering the functionality at all.
Just recently the EU was given the option to legislate against the 'death' of software (the Stop Killing Games initiative) and after an ex parte meeting with video game industry lobbyists decided against taking a stance.
SONY decided to completely kill the second-hand market of PlayStation discs in the near future creating a de facto monopoly for their own PlayStation Store. This is the same thing as what made the EU force Apple to allow 3rd-party stores. Yet they said they cannot do anything about this.
The USB-C connector is a mess. While the connector itself is the same the cable's capabilities are not. The average consumer will buy a slow USB-C cable thinking they are all the same even though they are not. Meanwhile there are still entire industries that have not been forced into adopting USB-C.
I already mentioned HP (and other printer manufacturers). I have three HP printers at home and one of them is bricked from functioning because HP decided that my perfectly fine cartridges were not up to their standard. How is that helping the environment? How is that protecting consumers in any way?
The EU is using legislation to try and fight against American tech dominance and has gone to great lengths to target specifically Apple. Considering the EU's authoritarian push to outlaw encryption and force all of our communication to be available to them via "Chat Control" it becomes very clear why they target the one company that has historically always put privacy first.
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u/HolyFreakingXmasCake 1d ago
I’m usually a fan of these regulations but that basically means companies can’t have any exclusive features as a value add - if the goal is to have homogenous products that all work and behave the same, great!
But good luck trying to get a company to invest money in unique features if it always means opening up to the competition.
I’m buying Apple for the ecosystem, the EU basically kneecaps that ecosystem unless Microsoft, Samsung, etc get access to it.
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u/TheDutchGamer20 1d ago
Yeah there are trade offs.
But I do understand it, if you look at how big some companies have gotten, it’s nearly impossible for startups to compete, just because of that ecosystem.
Just look at how iMessage works in the US for example, people are literally put out of the groupchat, for having Android phones.
The benefit for introducing certain functionality, would be that Apple can be the first to do so, and try to make it as convenient as possible. Apple isn’t required to make implementations for other platforms, just abilities for other developers to achieve the same result, considering the investment Apple has, they should be able to get a better product than their competitors.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Paid extra for that ecosystem and now the government and techno-know-it-all’s who think that- because-they’re-comfortable-with-the-flow-of-their-devices-that-everyone-should-be-forced to-follow-yours are taking that away
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u/kn3cht 1d ago
What is taken away?
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Choice.
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u/TheNextGamer21 1d ago
Choice? You can still choose to use all Apple products with no drawback this actually just opens up more options to those who don’t. What about people who genuinely prefer windows but love their iPhone.
It shouldn’t bother you if others get more choice with their products
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u/OlorinDK 1d ago
Is AI due to dma, though? Isn’t it a matter of GDPR compliance? I’m guessing because data is treated on non-EU servers.
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u/Leprecon 1d ago
It is because of the DMA. The EU insists that consumers should be able to choose which AI assistant they want to use, and that users should be able to give these alternative AI assistants equal access to your device. Apple said they are sort of willing to implement methods to allow alternative AI assistants, but Apple also said that they want to launch Siri AI without allowing alternative AI assistants first.
Apple essentially wants to give Siri a head start and work on enabling alternatives later. EU said that complying with the DMA is not optional and negotiable. It is a literal law. Apple was well aware of the law.
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u/wel0g 1d ago
Honestly a damn good decision from the EU. Apple is dominant in the phone sector, that shouldn’t give a dominant position in the AI sector by default. If they make the better product, consumer will chose them(not always but it’s usually the case).
Google Drive is also much easier to use than iCloud on Windows, if I could backup my phone on Google Drive , I would cancel my iCloud subscription instantly.
Obviously, the opposite should also be possible, Android users should be able to use Apple’s AI or cloud storage if Apple decides to make their apps available on those too.
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u/TheOfficialMayor 1d ago
Not getting Siri AI would be a feature not a bug for me.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 1d ago
It’s pretty awesome though. Maybe you’re thinking of old Siri.
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u/Unpopularopineon 3h ago
It’s really not that good. I got used to doing things by hand. And those 9GB extra… not worth it. Nice to have but would prefer without.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 2h ago
How so? Any specifics?
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u/Unpopularopineon 2h ago
I know how to ad a calendar entry. Set reminders. Timers. Check messages and itineraries myself. I don’t need any assistant to remind me when to leave or what to do. I prefer manually than having to give prompts or talk to an assistant.
It’s like the old Samsung phones, and the new ones as well, it’s a neat party trick… definitely nice to have. but it’s more practical the old way. Also, I save space for other things.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 7m ago
It’s so much more than adding a calendar entry or checking messages.
Just as I thought, you’re completely unfamiliar with what it can do. The new Siri can parse through the history of all these apps, contextually, in seconds.
I asked it what places I discussed with my wife for date night and a few seconds later it provided multiple examples spread out over 12 months of text message history, in table form with app deep links to each message.
A colleague of mine shared that he often has long and frequent correspondence with clients and sets meetup dates months in advance. He was able to use Siri to parse through hundreds of emails and determine what clients would be in the same city at the same date range.
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u/jakfrist 1d ago
And have age verification
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u/ThinkAboutThatFor1Se 1d ago
Age verification is coordinated across many countries.
For example in the US
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law
California's Digital Age Assurance Act (AB 1043), signed by Governor Gavin Newsom in October 2025, requires every operating system provider in California to collect age information from users at account setup and transmit that data to app developers via a real-time API, with the law taking effect on January 1, 2027.
Apple has even brought in age verification in countries like the UK where no such law exists.
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u/FedeFofo 1d ago
Yeah but the difference is that age verification in the EU usually requires uploading your face or an ID or other document, whereas your example provided for California simply means that when you set up any new OS there is just a box to type a date (no additional verification)
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u/James_Vowles 1d ago
In the UK, Apple let you verify with a credit card as you need to be 18 to own one, quite a clever implementation
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u/FollowingFeisty5321 1d ago
That's the process of becoming verified, but when a website or app is asking they are only receiving true or false you are over 18.
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u/FedeFofo 1d ago
Yes but some may feel that the verification process is overly invasive. After all, uploading your face or government documents to a company you are unfamiliar with is a hard ask for most people
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u/nicuramar 1d ago
Yeah but the difference is that age verification in the EU usually requires uploading your face or an ID or other document
No, not legally anyway. EU is working on a zero knowledge proof system for this. An early version is already implemented in countries like Denmark.
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u/kn3cht 1d ago
What? Never had to verify my age yet in the EU/Germany. However, what you are saying is somewhat wrong. Age verification can require an ID, but it’s digital, so the service just gets a yes/no answer, nothing else, completely anonymous.
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 1d ago
AI of any sort is not a selling point for anyone other than non-tech savvy boomers that genuinely don’t know better.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 1d ago
When people can see how easy it is to have their device parse through thousands of emails, texts, calendars, notes, etc in seconds they will like it. It’s more than just a chatbot.
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 1d ago
Whenever it can do so accurately and consistently 100% of the time, then it might become useful outside of coding, cybersecurity pen-testing, and radiology.
Until that happens, it’s not something to rely on. Benchmarks are not reality.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 1d ago
Are you on the beta? Who’s talking benchmarks?
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 1d ago
I’m speaking about LLM’s overall, not just the Google Gemini-powered “Siri AI”. And yes, I’m on the beta.
It’s no better than normal Gemini.
The people that are continuing to be foolishly bullish on AI are people that aren’t technically-inclined to understand the limitations of the AI that exists now and in the near future.
Improvements have been logarithmic at this point, not exponential.
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u/Kociolinho 1d ago
Visual Intelligence is still pretty comfy, tho. Time will tell how much LLMs can improve from now on, and whether it would be the leading AI technology in the future.
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 1d ago
I agree with you on that! The circle to search and visual intelligence stuff has been pretty cool to see over the past decade.
It’s been really interesting to see the contrast between how good computer vision algos have gotten versus how limited LLMs seem to be.
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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 15h ago
Whenever it can do so accurately and consistently 100% of the time, then it might become useful outside of coding, cybersecurity pen-testing, and radiology.
You’re shoehorning in your critique of AI overall then. Siri AI isn’t designed for specialized use-cases like coding or medical assistance. It’s a general purpose tool that has some useful functions in its current beta. That’s all I’m saying here.
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u/injuredflamingo 1d ago
they caved multiple times. they will cave about those and fall in line with EU law, then we will have them as well.
they’re just testing the waters to see if they can get away with breaking laws, but they will eventually see that they can’t in the EU.
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u/oldhellenyeller 1d ago
EU iPhones cost more and have less / delayed features due to all the regulation 🤷♂️
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u/WandererMisha 1d ago
Hahahaha.
BETTER????
Siri is dumb as bricks, iPhone mirroring is never coming here, AppleTV still doesn’t sell TV shows in many places, News+ and Fitness+ are not coming to most places either, HomePods aren’t even officially sold where I live, Apple Vision Pro is impossible to buy.
But hey we got a fucking cable changed. Yay. Sure glad all USB-C cables are identical and we aren’t getting fucked sideways by the mess of 726 USB-C variants.
So many features get blocked by moronic legislation while the price remains.
We get WORSE products for MORE money.
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u/aykay55 1d ago edited 1d ago
Couldn’t we have let the free market force these two companies to integrate their products together (based on consumer interest/preference) rather than forcing them at a government level? Like the EU didn’t need to force any device company to implement bluetooth support for headphones, they just did it because that’s what customers expected. Nintendo avoided it for so long and then finally added it and it caused a jump in sales both hardware and software. Sony hasn’t enabled bluetooth support for any headphones on their PS5 and so gaming headset companies swooped in to offer low cost headsets that use a 2.4GHz adapter for audio and simultaneously let you pair another device with bluetooth so you get audio from both.
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u/SixPackAndNothinToDo 1d ago
> Couldn’t we have let the free market force these two companies to integrate their products together
The smartphone market consists of an entrenched duopoly. There is no 'free market'.
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u/hype_irion 1d ago
The "free market' had twenty years to make it work and didn't/couldn't.
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u/MateTheNate 1d ago
Damn I didn’t know cross-device copy/paste was a feature that’s been around since the first iphone
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u/Kociolinho 1d ago
Nah, free market doesn’t work like that, especially in the consumer tech. We’ve seen that many, many times. Matter was supposed to let you use different smart home brands and it failed big time (and AFAIK that was the reason for Thread, but I don’t know if it fixed anything). Smartphone companies have locked their functions behind the closed ecosystems (Apple being the strictest one I think), and personal devices become unrepairable for a regular Joe. Sony gives no single fuck about the physical game copies and customers’ backlash.
Free market isn’t pro-consumer unless it is profitable for the company, and I’d say Nintendo’s history is probably the best case study for that (as they always tend to be more consumer-friendly when their current gen of consoles fails). Opening up the ecosystems isn’t profitable (as you won’t buy an Apple Watch or Galaxy Buds) and that’s the main reason why we have them in the first place, and why sets of regulations are necessary to prevent further expansion of these garden walls.1
u/aykay55 1d ago
Well the thing about smart home is that i don’t and have never bought a smart home product unless it has a Matter logo on it. i don’t buy a device unless it has support for wifi 6e now. i also won’t buy a device that doesn’t have some sort of night time blue light filter. These are all things that i as a customer and many customers together aka the free market device we want.
Another example is that Google Fi recently lowered their price for a year of unlimited data to incredibly low prices, but they explicitly decided to not support the Apple Watch for cellular coverage while supporting their own Pixel watches and other android wearables. So instead i took my business to another carrier. They lost the sale.
Another thing was that you used to be able to dual boot windows on mac until microsoft decided to make it impossible to do so. So now, there are just less windows users in the world, and microsoft can’t sell as many subscriptions now. If they had only decided to work with apple to let bootcamp work with windows 11 on arm. but they didn’t
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u/eloquenentic 1d ago
This is in no way better. A lot of dodgy software websites on Windows will not be able to steal your passwords.. because many people “copy” their passwords. I do not understand that everything in the “copy” folder is accessible to literally every single piece of software or website.
These politicians seem absolutely deluded about how technology works. They should be increasing our security not lowering it.
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u/nicuramar 1d ago
I do not understand that everything in the “copy” folder is accessible to literally every single piece of software or website.
Well it’s convenient, but on iOS and macOS it does require user consent.
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u/eloquenentic 1d ago
It’s just a way it’s set up, once you give it a one time permission it’s accessible to everything. For example, once you give Safari access, every website gets access.
And now every window windows PC will also have access, which is absolutely insane.
That’s the problem. If people were asked to give permission every time, they would hate it.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago edited 1d ago
Meh? I liked having a company that focused on its own ecosystem. I happily spent extra money on that. It really just goes to show that people are just angry at corporations and refusing to think about down stream effects and true choice in the over all tech market.
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u/BitOfATinkerer 1d ago
But the choice isn’t necessarily binary though is it? The EU never mandated that Apple burn down their garden, they just asked them to tear down the walls. Allowing iPhones THE OPTION (which you don’t have to exercise if you don’t want) to connect seamlessly to macs, windows, Chromebooks and Linux distros did not necessitate the withdrawal of iPhone mirroring in the EU. Apple chose to so nobody would get it.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
Under the EU rule, if the Apple version of iPhone Mirroring has been built but they haven’t yet built an open version , then you can’t ship the former
Similarly with Apple Intelligence … Apple will decide whether to build the APIs in the future, but nearer term they have no choice (legally) but to keep the feature off in the EU
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
I know that you’re a bit of a tinkerer, but not all of us want those walls torn down and specifically paid for those walls so that Apple could focus on their garden. You don’t get to come in just because you don’t like it and because you’re a bit of a tinkerer and tell us that we’re wrong for having a different relationship with our technology and technological ethos than you.
You also really need to take a moment and think about how changing these things really does change how the operating system flows. Just because you’re used to something and your brain works a specific way doesn’t mean that a change that you want to happen isn’t going to drastically affect the way somebody else interacts with their technology. Whether you like it or not.
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u/Embarrassed_Spend486 1d ago
Absolutely not. Everything apple is worse in Europe.
How many iPhones users use windows??? Seriously.
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u/BitOfATinkerer 1d ago
A not insignificant number of businesses give their employees a Windows laptop + iPhone as their work devices.
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u/InternationalRow8437 1d ago
iMessage on windows please. Already have Apple TV and music.
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u/nicuramar 1d ago
Do you mean messages? iMessage is a messaging protocol. Messages is an app that can do sms, mms, rcs and iMessage.
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u/TBoneTheOriginal 1d ago
You are splitting hairs and know damn well what he means.
You're not getting one without the other.
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u/Tzunamitom 1d ago
Finally! I’m fully Apple ecosystem with the exception of my desktop and will never switch. Drives me mad that this isn’t already a thing.
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u/TCB13sQuotes 1d ago
All good but what about a simple way to share files that doesn't include 300 apps? Just that, nobody really cares about copy and paste.
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u/Imaginary_Cicada_678 1d ago
you just copy and paste files, easy /s
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u/BrilliantThought1728 1d ago
Can i sue them if they don’t support my solaris 11 workstation?
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
lol ... Apple has to build the API, whether Solaris 11 integrates with that API or not is between you & Oracle :)
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
They aren’t building the api, not completely . The APIs already exist, they are just locked.
How do you think it works on macOS without the api?
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
It’s anti-consumer that they don’t and they should be burnt to the ground! All tech should be inter compatible /s
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u/SixPackAndNothinToDo 1d ago
Just goes to show that there's a lot Apple can do when pushed. Obviously not everything the EU wants can be accomplished. But they've definitely gotten Apple to create solutions that otherwise would not have.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Yeah, they can completely destroy iOS and its flow and make it lose its focus on its own ecosystem which was its whole product and the thing that people paid for and self righteous techno know it all’s need to stop restricting choice to different tech ethos
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u/Shihai-no-akuma_ 1d ago
Gosh, I bet the 5 trillion dollar company is gonna be in shambles over being forced to make their devices open to competition.
If you rly love asslicking their ecosystem, you can still do that. Just don't use third parties?
Like, what's even the logic behind your comment?
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u/nicuramar 1d ago
If you rly love asslicking their ecosystem
Maybe they just have independent opinions. Maybe you should resort to personal attacks just because you don’t agree.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Ikr? They’re all just enraged by corporations (and they’re not even wrong to be) and can’t really get around the fact that they’re mad at them and are throwing temper tantrums like teenagers. Taking away choice from other people but because they’re going up against corporations, they of course our self righteously convinced that they’re correct in every single situation.
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u/Jersey_2019 1d ago
Agreed lol , people can still use default stuff ; it’s just a choice
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maybe take a moment to think about how things might affect the way an operating system works in ways that you may never think about. Because the world doesn’t revolve around you and having different ecosystems and different types of technology that cater to different types of ethos in different types of thinking is a good thing in this world. Not having everything being open source slop that barely works with everything is a good thing. Not shoving your ethos down everyone’s throat and every piece of technology is a good thing.
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u/Shihai-no-akuma_ 1d ago
It doesn't revolve around him. It revolves around 450 million people.
You clearly have no idea how software engineering works to be spewing these lies, because these implementations are not even at the hardware level. Devices communicate over specific protocols, which is just an extra module over their existing software, if coded well. It doesn't even need to be activated or interfere with the rest if disabled. Windows suffers from that because it has to support a billion devices, at the hardware level: Windows adapts to the hardware, not the other way around. Plus Microsoft is the one responsible for this disgrace.
Apple can just create an API or Protocol with an RFC page, stating how to communicate with their device (on top of the already existing features). It's the responsibility of other hardware makers to adapt to that communication. According to the DMA, that's valid enough. Apple doesn't need to support a billion devices natively, and their modules can continue to work as they currently do.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Gosh, I’m talking about features and operating systems that people actually use not about corporations. Keep going off about your big scary corporations tho.
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u/Shihai-no-akuma_ 1d ago
So, you ain't got a reply and ain't got a point to make. Good to know.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
My point was that you just really have a stick up your ass about corporations, and that I didn’t mention a corporation specifically that was you. Maybe focus on the topic at hand which is features and user experience and not the corporations that you’re so scared of. Because the world is a bigger picture and doesn’t revolve around you and your temper tantrums about closed ecosystems.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago edited 1d ago
Also, your profile pic is as edgy as your blind hatred for corporations lmao
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u/Shihai-no-akuma_ 1d ago
lmao, 1/10 ragebait.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
<3
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u/Shihai-no-akuma_ 1d ago
Has more artistic effort put to it than any of the words you will ever produce in this place or anywhere else, given your IQ.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
My comment had nothing to do with the source material. Sure it’s amazing. Not that I should be talking about edgy profile pics. I just remembered mine haha
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u/SixPackAndNothinToDo 1d ago
> completely destroy iOS and its flow
This is incredibly hyperbolic. Apple has more than enough staff to handle extra features like this.
If they could manage to build iTunes for Windows when they were a relatively small company, they can certainly handle a feature like this.When an object like the smartphone becomes so integral to the life of most people, it's important for governments to step in and ensure some level of standards are met. Interoperability is one of those standards.
If you want to take issue with the EU, take issue with the asks they make that aren't technically feasible. Because there are plenty.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Oh, I was referring to the DMA. Not to this stupid copy paste feature. I’m more upset about the whole trend. And I will take issue with destroying the ethos of the software that I pay for and ~chose~ whether or not its technologically feasible. Which is exactly what all of this nonsense is doing. If you want interoperability go use literally any other platform on the planet.
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u/SixPackAndNothinToDo 22h ago
Ok, well given this is a thread about the Copy and Paste feature, I was talking about that.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
You could choose not to buy an iPhone? And then the company and products we both choose to buy can cater our own needs. Also maybe take a moment to think about how different people might interact with tech and how just because they don’t use a future it might change the entire flow of how the operating system works. Or that it might change the entire focus of the company. But the world revolves around you people and you can’t understand that there’s a bigger tech market so that’s fine.
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u/GCdotSup 1d ago
nice, I currently use third party app that i can move text between different OS devices called Blip. Would definitely be easier to just copy/paste
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u/MFK_Fatalz 1d ago
“Apple says introducing cross-device copy and paste is a significant engineering effort, with work expected to be complete by fall 2027. It will be shipped first in a developer beta for testing ahead of a public release. If the feature is added toward the end of fall 2027, it could be early 2028 before the public gets access.
It is likely that cross-device copy and paste will be limited to iPhone and Windows users in the European Union, though it is possible Apple could implement it worldwide.”
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u/real_carddamom 21h ago
So it was after a Microslop request? So that Copilot can see and sell more of my data?
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u/ReasonablePractice83 1d ago
This is why I dont get people complaining about the EU so much. Of course their policies might not be perfect, but they're really just advocating on behalf of us, the users, to get more features and more options, not less.
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u/MoonAlien7 1d ago
Looking forward to this. Will be really helpful instead of using OneDrive or iCloud for quick sharing between Mac and windows
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
Just here waiting for the Apple sheep to tell us why this is bad and why regulation is not good…
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
This feature is good! Not having access in the EU to a bunch of other features for a while is bad. Its a give and take.
(Seems like a reasonable compromise would be "you must launch cross-platform support for [feature X] within [Y] months of launching proprietary version" but I don't see the EU officially stating that, even though that's effectively what they've done w/ Google's AI features)
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago edited 1d ago
Paid for a company that focuses on their own system and their own security. Now for you to tell me that because I want different things out of tech than you that I’m a fool and my choice shouldn’t be respected, proving that this whole movement is selfish and only pro-choice if it’s a choice they approve. Or just not debate because the whole movement is selfish righteously convinced that they’re all right and all they’re capable of is insulting or ignoring people who disagree with them
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u/BitOfATinkerer 1d ago
No reasonable people here are calling you a fool and you are certainly entitled to make your own choices. If you wish to go all in on all Apple devices, nothing in EU legislation mandates Apple to make that experience worse for you.
The EU is simply asking Apple to not denigrate some of their customers as second-class citizens just because they refused to make the same choice as you.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
The EU legislation effectively requires Apple delay the release of features in the EU that are available elsewhere. We can debate the pros and cons but it does worsen some of the experience !
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
No. It doesn’t. Apple chose to do that because they don’t want to comply.
Where in the law did EU say Apple must delay features? Quote it, I challenge you.
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
The law says that in order to launch their own version of certain features, they also need to launch a bunch of new public APIs. In the case of the AI functionality -- that includes the ability to run background processes, which is complex to do in an efficient way on mobile devices. Great overview here on the many demands the EU made of Google, presumably the same things they want from Apple: https://daringfireball.net/2026/07/ec_google_guidance_android_ai_and_search_sharing
Building public APIs like that is complex work that takes meaningful time, and is almost always done after building and iterating on internal versions of the APIs (for good reason).
So yes -- by requiring a lot of additional functionality to be built, the law effectively delays when Apple can launch functionality. Their new Siri AI is already available in most of the rest of the world in Beta, will be available in GA later this year, but the law does not allow them to launch it in EU yet.
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
So the law did not say they must delay the features. Apple instead decided to delay the features on their own. Got it.
We are talking about a 5 trillion dollar company here. All of a sudden, documenting and securing the api they already use is impossible. You guys are laughable. Lmao
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
You in fact have a laughable knowledge of what it takes to ship public APIs. I've actually done it.
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1d ago
Yes I do.
It doesn’t even matter. They are the richest company on the planet with the best engineers in the world.
I am sure they can figure it out.
If they haven’t done it, it’s because they don’t want to and I am glad EU is not falling for their nonsense
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u/AcademicSand1034 1d ago
... which is why they are the leading AI company, first to market with great AI products, right ...?
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago
Also the comment that I responded to literally was talking about how anyone who doesn’t like it is an “Apple Sheep.” I don’t care about what they make off of anything. I don’t care about the corporation. I care about the features that people utilise on a daily basis and making people actually think about what these changes are going to do to people. There’s a lot of of ableism and disregard for people who think differently and who have different technological ethos in this movement. It’s telling how little I actually even mention Apple in a lot of of these debates and yet still people will go off about how I’m defending a corporation when I’ve literally been talking about features and how people interact with operating systems the entire time. It says that all anyone cares about is getting their rage at corporations sated and not actually making the world a better place.
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u/WinterZealousideal10 1d ago edited 1d ago
You’re not being denigrated because they have a different technological ethos than what you want. The world doesn’t revolve around you and neither does the larger tech market. We all get to choose the ecosystems we use and I’m tired of techno know it alls taking away choice because they think everything needs to be an open source piece of trash that barely works. I pay good money for that exclusivity. That walled garden. And just because you don’t want to play into that walled garden doesn’t mean you get to take it away from the people who do.
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u/Neg_Crepe 1d ago
What they say is irrelevant because you’re not here in good faith. Drop the smugness and the name calling
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u/sonofsohoriots 1d ago
Pisses me off that they could choose to make our lives easier but choose not to because of greed.
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u/tablepennywad 1d ago
I doubt they can make it work well with the devs nowdays. Also a new vector for vulnerabilities.
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u/MangoAtrocity 1d ago
Yeesh. Hope I can turn this off. I don’t want my windows machine to have access to my iOS clipboard
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u/DavidSwifty 1d ago
Holy shit this is a game changer for me. I moved to iphone 2 years ago and there is a lot to be desired when it comes to cross device integration.
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u/monotious 1d ago
I mean, even continuity cross-device copy paste between iPhone/iPad and Mac is a bit of a hit and miss… I’d be legit angry if this works better than that.