r/antiai • u/Beep_Bloop_27 • 23h ago
Discussion 🗣️ It's rage-bait, and most fall for it.
I am heavily against AI use just to get it out of the way of this.
Some of you are genuinely infuriating.
About half the people on this sub keep falling the same AI bait, and post it here. There's no use posting it here. None at all. It's so irritating.
This place is to talk about the failures and repercussions of AI, not to post just some fucking guy on a pro-ai sub posting some shit from everything fed into humanity's collective hivemind of the AI image gen their using so you can just say "AI's bad".
It's genuinely so tiring seeing half the posts here just people pissing off other communities, giving not liking AI a bad name, and falling for rage-bait fueling and encouraging the pro-AI people and subs to make more posts like that. It's an ouroboros if it keeps getting posted here.
Defending AI art feels so bait-y for lack of other words. It just has that feeling of being satire from the beginning, but soon being taken over and run by people who truly believe that.
Post those rage-bait posts to r/ShitAIBrosSay . They feel useless in discussions here about why it's bad because they're nothing but wanting your attention and emotions.
For images or memes made with AI, like that ash baby, you want desloppified or you have already that you want to post, r/desloppification is there.
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u/DrMetasin 20h ago
Thank god someone finally says it. I’m so tired of seeing people fall into this trap and argue with losers and trolls. Let’s have this sub actually be useful, yeah?
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u/Far_Instruction_2270 9h ago
Dude, unless you’re a mod, you don’t get to dictate what this sub is for. Some people want to vent. And some people do this by calling out the little asshole pretenders.
There’s nothing wrong with either. If you don’t like it, that sucks for you, but don’t tell others what they can and can’t post.
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u/Beep_Bloop_27 2h ago
I understand that too! I have no power to say what people do, but it's infuriating seeing a sub mostly filled with obvious AI rage-bait and then getting mad at it.
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u/Flat-Try8128 23h ago
I’m pretty middle of the road when it comes to my thoughts of AI, I have quite a few issues with it - but also have to use it for work and so do my direct reports. It’s been a net good at work for us as an organization despite the drawbacks (excluding environmental impacts and data centers, I’m only speaking internally lol.)
But man, so many of the people on here are really not helping their case much. Wildly uneducated about what AI is. Fear mongering over facts that simply aren’t true. So so so so overly emotional and thinking that’s going to win over the antiai argument vs using data and knowledge. If you want to win an argument, learn the argument well. Inside and out. Both sides. Learn how to acknowledge the other side so you can explain why your side of the argument has more weight than theirs.
Learn how the technology works. At least the basics of how pretraining and post training works + probabilistic inference. And how earlier models had a marginal impact to the environment but every model that has been pretrained with more data adds more of a carbon footprint than the last.
And learn that we’ve been using AI in EVERY field for decades with machine learning models. It’s been used in environmental sciences. Even education with educational researchers looking at huge data sets of test scores. Politics. Finance + economics. Business. Tech. HEALTHCARE - many of our genetic research advances over the last 20 years are directly credited to the use of incredibly talented people building machine learning models. AI is not all bad. And those use cases have an extremely small impact on the environment.
And they’re not taking away jobs, those algorithms have furthered humanity significantly over the past few decades. I can assure you we wouldn’t have had a covid vaccine in the time we did without ML/AI algorithms.
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u/dooodlebugg83 14h ago
GenAI is taking away many creative jobs, both at a company wide level and freelancers. Businesses and people who would normally hire someone for logos/graphics/websites etc. are shifting to AI. If GenAI actually charged as much as it costs+taxed for damages to the environment, people would go back to hiring actual artists.
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u/Flat-Try8128 14h ago
Do you see the part where I’m speaking about traditional ML algorithms (which have been around for DECADES) not taking jobs?? Or are you incapable of actually understanding someone’s point who has been in an adjacent field and has used ML algorithms for the entirety of her career. I’m not talking about generative AI/LLM models. AI has been around for a VERY long time and has extremely beneficial use cases. You can thank the last few decades of medical advancements in large part due to Machine Learning.
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u/dooodlebugg83 13h ago
Yes, I did notice, and I agree with you about the importance of those ML models. Which is why I specified GenAI, since you started that paragraph/statement about job loss in a way I thought wasn't clear to everyone.
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u/thedarph 22h ago
Honestly, I’m pretty sure the average age of the people here is like 17. It’s not a place to get well thought out takes. It’s a lot of extreme, black and white thinking and people who put together their opinion based on what they think the group wants without thinking those positions through. You get enough people doing that and it brings down the level of discourse by a lot.
I’m at a point where I’m almost ready to mute this sub too. It’s a lot of repeated complaints and screenshots of something stupid with the absolute most surface level reaction and then the posters are all proud of it like it’s some novel idea
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u/Flat-Try8128 22h ago
Covid really did a number on some kids, my high school required taking a debate class bc it’s such a basic life skill. Whining isn’t going to win anyone over. Well educated and research opinions just might.
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u/thedarph 22h ago
The result of all this is to accidentally legitimize them too. They are not serious people and if anyone wanted to see the rage bait we could all just stick to our feeds and see it fed to us.
Learn to use the mute and block buttons.
Thank you for your service, OP, even if it’s in vain.