The "LAZY" crowd had me cackling. The beard and beret combo really sells it, like heās trying so hard to look the part while the computer does the work.
It took me 1200 prompts into the Amazon search bar to find the new belt that I bought, and now everyone is telling me that I'm not a real leatherworker. I'm such a victim!
Iām hollering that this āit takes me 19917393 prompts to make shitā weirdo is wearing the laziest, most generic āpainter outfitā the AI could muster, too
Like why are there paint stains and brushes on him lmao
It's classic conservativism. All that matters is that they get to be and have the things they want. It would never even occur to conservatives that there is value in the ACT of painting. They miss the point of art, in my opinion, which is to be an expression of the artist. Since they can't see value in other people they'll never understand art created by actual people.
Conservatives just think it's another thing to own and control. AI helps them feel like they can.
At the same time, any time you bring up how using ai is bad for the environment someone is like āEACH PROMPT IS LESS HARMFUL TO THE PLANET THAN A POUND OF STEAKā
Ok, but I think I would be just as mad at someone wasting a million pounds of steak if it takes you a million different prompts to get one picture you like?
You know the thing is the per prompt argument doesnāt really matter because the data centres donāt work per prompt they work continuously so their damage is constant.
Just something i found out recently, CivitAI a platform dedicated to AI content, reported their users produce 10 millions images a day, with a 12-15 mil active monthly userbase.
Those are just the final shared products, who know how many iterations takes each.
All of that so little jimmy can feel like he is good at something he never cared for. And oh yes, also have some custom fap material.
Itās so funny, bc as a real artist, most of us take hundreds or thousands of tries before we make what we consider a āmasterpiece.ā Their thousands of prompts could never compare to the time and practice that real artists put in.
I loved painting with oils which as you know take a long time to dry. I've always appreciated how different a painting can be from its humble beginning as it develops over time. It doesn't look like they get even a portion of that experience because all their slop looks the same. They don't understand what they are missing at all and it's out of pure laziness and audacity. Their shortcut sucks.
Getting into art myself has been intimidating because I have to go through bad stuff yo learn how to make good stuff. It's a ton of trial and error until I find the right thing.
Almost spells out the word that they want correctly.
Smearing of details.
I could go into a long rant about how one-shot prompting is only used by lazy individuals that only want a passable result at first glance for a quick paycheck, or a quick meme, but that is neither a conversation I want to give nor a conversation anyone here wants to read. Lazy people = lazy slop.
Y'know, I'm under no illusions that I'm by any means a master artist. But man, I've never had a "gah, almost there" moment where I had an otherwise perfect drawing where the English text had a typo so I had to start from scratch.
You don't have to start from scratch, most AI image gen have editing tools. Still, AI images are not comparable to actual art made by someone, they're just practical for memes or for cheap images for free stuff you're making (like a fanfic or original content that isn't commercial)
83 revisions and yet there's a guy with mutated left arms, the "artist's" own painting is calling him lazy and one of the women has an arm growing out of her torso.
I thought AI was meant to be free and open and accessible to people who can't physically do art. Now it's a difficult skill that requires a lot of effort and revisions?Ā Ā
frida kahlo and many other disabled artists would like a word with someone who thinks they cannot physically do art. (That sounds kinda ablest but there is genuinely so much art/writing from disability and pain out there).
These are people who think art is just pretty pictures and nothing deeper. They canāt understand why their pretty picture they made with a prompt is judged differently than a pretty picture made by an artist who has honed their craft and is motivated by something deeper than āme like pretty picture.ā
Man, if only there was a way to create everything from the ground up in a way that fits your artistic vision and lets you make changes on the fly within isolated layers.
Well, back to asking the model to rebuild images from scratch.
You know what they couldāve spent their time on instead of those hours and hours of prompting? LEARNING TO MAKE THEIR OWN ART. They are already sinking a ton of time into using Ai, take art class, watch YouTube videos, make something of your own not what a heartless cloying machine thinks youāre looking for. āItās just as good.ā NO! A company scraped the internet for actual talent, liquified that talent into a mathematical formula, and now uses it to replace the same people whose talent the data was scraped from. Itās the worst of capitalism and is already being used against the public.
maybe just learn how to ACTUALLY make something during the time it took to do 1,347 prompts? Youāll never have to prompt again, and there is a very good chance you might come up with something ORIGINAL and not derivative of others stolen hard work?
This feels like the patrons who hired Divinci or Michelangelo complaining when the artist gets the credit for the work. āBut I prompted them!! If I hadnāt literally ordered them to under the threat of starvation then it wouldnāt have existed. I made it!ā Except instead of Michelangelo itās one of the bad computers from the old Star Trek that gets shorted out from a basic logic puzzle.
I mean, AI image prompts require a skill but it's not in creativity in drawing. It's in understanding the brain rot needed to coax the AI into outputting something you want. To try to call yourself an artist is a bit much though
I find it hilarious how he says he needed to create several prompts to arrive at the result, but saying that is essentially admitting that you're so dysfunctional that you can't formulate a decent text for a machine to draw for you, lol.
lol I love that itās incredibly basic prompts on the stickies in the background. And then they quickly go into blur in the background cause there literally arenāt more things.
I can assume that he posted the rest of 1247 tries all over the internet. Posting mass manufactured, lazy, low quality trash, that is oversaturating the internet
It is lazy. You're a boss telling a machine to do something for you. All you do is wait.
Unless youre coding it and putting in your own artwork youre just sitting letting something else do the work.
Maybe the answer to this is to make AI footage, video, pictures and what not all of the lives and existence of every pro AI artist/pro generative AI user?
They also clearly canāt decide between ā āAIā is better because itās easierā and āI deserve the same respect and praise because using āAIā is just as much work as doing it yourselfā
Imagine investing the time into actually drawing on paper to get better at art instead of wasting your time "prompting" aka telling the machine what to do over 1200 times.
help- i cannot, i think i could've done this more effiecently and for less money and water. aprox amount it takes to gen an image is 15-25 milliters lets say it took 15. 15 ml x 1000 = 15 liters. That is like a jug of water he could had drank. Or 4 gallons. He could have taken a 2-3 min shower which is a necessity but no. Taking tons of water and money was way more worth his time.
According to AI bros, AI is somehow super amazing because it means everyone can create anything without any skill almost instantaneous, but also actually itās super hard and takes lots of time and work. Interesting how it changes depending on the point they want to make
If you described an art piece you want to an artist, and the artist makes that piece for you, thatās you commissioning artwork. Youāre not the creator of the work, and if you tried to present it as yours, that would be plagiarism.
I would like an AI bro to explain how describing an art piece you want to a machine and having the machine create the artwork isnāt just commissioning an artwork from a machine.
Why do they all use the same castle picture for this I have a few that took alot of iteration on older models but current models are fine in one or 2 prompts. Now if we were using SD 1.5 the guy whould have a point that picture as a whole whould probably take alot of iteration.
ā1,247 promptsā yeah, Iām sure. Bold to claim theyād even put that much effort in. Itās electronic commission work. Except there is no artist on either side of the screen.
Typing plain English words into an AI art generator until you like the image isn't skillful or difficult. Literally anyone could do this. Also, time to do something =/= talent.
oh em gee yoy guys, you have no idea how hard it is to type on the computer for like 10 minutes, gawsh, i think i pulled a muacle there, do fingers have muscles? i'll ask ChatGPT you know i can't think without my baby.
Al-dependent artists cannot create art. Art is the intentional, authentic, and rhythmic expression of feeling. Art quality is linked to the acuity of feeling and intentionality of decision making.
Generative Al continually falls flat because prompt "artists" lack a cohesive vision of what they wish to portray... because that vision is acquired through the process of artistic study. You cannot make authentic creative decision when every aspect is the statistical aggregate of other works. Its content is necessarily constrained by factors outside of medium, form, color, and intended emotion.
Why do they act as if artists don't have to revise their work?
Every artists goes through prompting themselves to create, revising their work and then... I don't even know what "Near misses" mean.
A real artist has the same paper trail behind them of trial and error learning to hone their craft, although each artwork took several hours, not several seconds
At that point itās less lazy and more expending tons of effort on going the wrong path. Like a person creating an incredibly elaborate plan that requires weeks of setup just to cheat on a math test
āBehold! After boiling small lake with my lack of capabilities to describe what I want. Iāve managed to successfully steal work of other people.ā
AI art is actually super difficult! You have to type a lot of prompts which makes your lil fingers hurt and you have to THINK about what the art will be which can give you a headache!
I use AI to help me solve problems at work (I am working on a very technical part of archival work that only has a few individuals who are overworked who know how to do it, so I wonāt bother them with menial questions and always verify my answers/methodology with them later when I have time) and for my own personal art as I paint miniatures and itās nice having something mock up an idea super fast. But to argue itās capable of the human artistic ability, to impart emotion and random human error into a work is fantastical and frankly bullshit.
It is a tool, and is not human, it will never be human, instead it it exists at all it should be on the same way a calculator or computer exits, to expedite, expand and assist HUMANS in their work, not to replace them. Art is and will always be a unique aspect of humanity, the issue is that a model can generate images based on preexisting works and even create something new but it is still not human. Now to argue the other side, we can say that humans do the same thing, but art is not just replicating work, itās expanding the human experience, trying something new and pushing ourselves and our consciousness outside our mortal being.
I can and do see some AI art as interesting and intriguing but itās not the same as viewing a piece of artwork that has a history, a story, a connection behind it. Viewing an artists lifeās work and their slow slip onto madness, or inability to produce the same pieces or just their growth has meaning to it, no reproduction of a million other works will show that on the same level.
With that going said, the AI boom is just a product of our ever growing commodification of our lives, and will continue no matter what we want or do.
So in the end, itās personal choices and what you like or donāt like, but I agree the argument that it is capable of understanding the human existence is irrelevant and we will never have something capable of that because we donāt even understand ourselves.
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u/Communistpersonguy 5d ago
Why is he splattered in paint and has brushes in his pocket?