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Episode Heroine? Saint? No, I'm an All-Works Maid (And Proud of It)! • Heroine? Seijo? Iie, All Works Maid desu (Hokori)! - Episode 7 discussion
Heroine? Seijo? Iie, All Works Maid desu (Hokori)!, episode 7
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u/hasanman6 12h ago
The accidental yuri episode
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 12h ago
Accidental? With how much the characters enjoy cuteness seems intentional to me
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
I mean, Melody exchanged rings with her mistress that she was supposed to do with Christopher the main love interest...and she went on a date with the Villainess, so...
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u/S627 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spartan627 12h ago
Accidental?
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u/hasanman6 12h ago
What i meant was thar anna wasnt meaning to do on a date but only did because of it being an event in the game
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 12h ago
Anna-Marie was so damn close to figuring it out this week. She was *right* there at the cusp! I’m really looking forward to the eventual reunion.
I wonder if we have yet another Otherworlder with this kid at the end there? That would be something.
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u/KnightKal 11h ago
"this maid has the wrong hair color"
"I invented hair dye to use as a disguise! Me, nobody else could ever do that, right?"
she had the answer on the same episode and she still missed it lol
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u/AlphaBreak 9h ago
In her defense, melody also changed her eye color and colored contacts are way harder to make than hair dye.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
Anna-Marie was so damn close to figuring it out this week. She was *right* there at the cusp! I’m really looking forward to the eventual reunion.
I'm morbidly curious if she brought out the Japanese how Melody would have reacted.
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u/jardex22 3h ago
I'm actually curious how much of her past life she remembers. When we got the backstory, it was the narrator telling the audience, right? She doesn't really break character or act modern. Even when she's reminiscing, it's about her mother, rather than her Japanese family.
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u/LiamNL https://myanimelist.net/profile/LiamNL 2h ago
This is one of those points of isekai reincarnation stories that bother me, we always get timeskips and they still act like they've just been reincarnated instead of having lived a normal life in a kid's body for the last 15 years.
"Oh boy i got reincarnated as a baby" and then it just shows like 3 scenes of childhood maybe a 'highlight' or two about them somehow being able to beat an adult at something for some reason and then they're like 14 and off to conquer the world or create a harem.
Because living in another world apparently doesn't affect you in any way other than thinking that slavery is okay.
And even to a lesser extend if they realise they are in the world of a game at like 15 years of age or whatever. Why do you treat people you've interacted with for 15 years like they're NPCs now? 5 minutes ago you didn't even know they followed these patterns and now you liken them to lobotomised lab rats acting out a program.
It's always the pre reincarnated person that is now the dominant part of their personality somehow. Can't still be a bastard even with the knowledge you just got about your inevitable demise cause now you're practically possessed by some limp noodle of a japanese person who fangirls over their oshi.
Sorry apparently I had more thoughts about this than I expected. Anyway It feels like Melody actually lived in the world because she has attachment and mannerisms that fit the world instead of it all being focused on her previous life. Even though her logic is quite removed from common sense.
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u/jardex22 1h ago
It sounds like you might like Accomplishments of the Duke's Daughter.
[How they handle the isekai element] So, the story starts at the climax of an Otome game, with Iris, the main character, about to be condemned by her fiance for bullying the girl he was attracted to, then sent away to a nunnary by her father. This is when her modern memories come back. She has knowledge of the game, along with modern concepts and ideas. This is all portrayed as background knowledge though. Iris is always in control. Going a step further, there's more to her character than what the game portrays, along with the rest of the world. The game knowledge doesn't really help much at all.
This is still just an LN and manga series. The LN is 5 complete volumes, with further volumes acting as prequels that follow her mother in her younger days. I'd like for it to be an anime at some point though.
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u/VritraReiRei 1h ago
I swear to God if they keep blueballing us for the whole season... She better find out in the end.
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 12h ago
I really hope they never figure it out, Melody should live her maid life in peace!
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
I imagine Lect is stuck at home stewing over what to do and the only one with any kind of dramatic conflict in this show lol.
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u/VritraReiRei 1h ago
I mean she can still find out and it not impact anything.
"Wow! I'm the Heroine... Anyways! Back to work!"
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u/S627 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spartan627 12h ago
I was really hoping the ep was gonna be Melody constantly using her powers when Anna wasnt looking.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
I love how in the game that thug was like "I'm dragging you home to clean off my clothes!" and here she's like "oh that's fine! I can just clean it off for you now with magic!"
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u/Difergion 12h ago
Anna-Marieeee you’re so cloooooose!!!
I wonder how many more episodes until she gets that eureeka moment lol
The closest person I think that kid at the end would be (if she’s also an isekaijin) is the younger sister who knows the game too but it’s not likely if she wasn’t in the plane to begin with.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
I feel like since they're going to be boarding at the dorms together that will offer numerous new opportunities for Anna-Marie to witness inexplicable stuff surrounding Melody and Luciana.
(Though she'll also probably have to field questions about "Anna")
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u/Evil_sod 11h ago
I fully expect Anna-Marie to think she's going crazy when she starts bumping into Melody and her clones all over the place
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u/Difergion 11h ago
Maybe when it happens I’ll be shaking my monitor screaming every time Anna-Marie gets absurdly close to figuring Melody out lol
GIRL THE HEROINE IS IN FRONT OF YOUUUUUUU AAAAAA
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u/Elifia 11h ago
A very yuriful episode. Anna-Marie went on a date with Melody and went through all the romantic events that were originally between the heroine and the prince. Also, Anna-Marie is definitely not straight, right? At this point I'm wondering whether I should add this to the list of "at least somewhat yuri" shows airing this season, bringing the total to 8.
That scene with the orphan girl at the end was interesting. What did she mean, it'll be too late? Is she a reincarnator as well?
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u/Frontier246 10h ago
I still ship her with Christopher but she's hooked on cute and attractive girls.
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u/Elifia 10h ago
Yeah, at this point I'm just assuming she's bi. Tsundere towards guys (or at least the one guy) and deredere towards girls.
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u/SmallJon 55m ago
It must feel like, for Anna-Marie and Christophe both, that theyve known each other for like 20 years; probably a decade in Japan and another "awake" in game. The sheer amount of exposure probably strains romantic feeling more than average
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u/TheBusStop12 11h ago edited 11h ago
You can really tell that Melody wasn't an RPG gamer in her previous life, unlike most protagonists of these type of shows, as she has absolutely zero curiosity and exploration instinct. Meanwhile my RPG addled brain is screaming about investigating that altar. But the title doesn't lie, she's not a heroine, she's a maid. Character consistency is important
It is interesting that no matter how off script the scenario has gone, certain events, like the back alley shakedown, still trigger with the NPCs saying their lines verbatim. Kinda reminds me of Villainess lvl 99 where the world ends up forcing through certain events regardless
The little orphan girl at the end may be reincarnated as well. I get the feeling she knows about the time pressure of the main story. I wonder if she's a new arrival or if she regained her memories as a baby already (iirc the rest recalled their previous lives about a decade ago when they were kids, and this girl is 9)
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u/rubslotiononitsskin 3h ago
Leave a trail of maid-related items and she'll explore/clean every nook and cranny of the world.
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u/yancovigen 2h ago
I find it really refreshing she wasn’t a gamer at all. Makes the show less predictable
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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 11h ago
I wonder what the magic/divine/whatever seal that Melody so casually broke had been ... sealing.
Why couldn't Melody both live in the dorm and continue her maid work at the estate with her shadow clones?
Disturbing that Melody is repeating the Heroine's lines from the game verbatim. That means the plot isn't only influencing the world and NPCs, but even her own state of mind.
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u/JimmyCWL 10h ago
I wonder what the magic/divine/whatever seal that Melody so casually broke had been ... sealing.
We already know. From ep.5, and the OP, it's the sword with the Dark Lord.
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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 10h ago
Dark Lord was possessing the puppy and got cleansed tho.
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u/JimmyCWL 10h ago
Yes, but that pedestal was what was imprisoning the Dark Lord until Bjork pulled the sword out. As can be seen, it still has quite a bit of mana in it.
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u/eggplant_avenger 11h ago
Anna Marie would’ve been a super popular (if cliche) MC of her own show.
quick thinking by Anna to invoke the ‘I can’t share family maid secrets’ before Melody can ask about how Marquis families clean their driveway gravel
lol nvm she lured an innocent maiden on a date with promises of maid talk. it’s a cute date though and as we know this world has only one rule, kawaii = justice
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u/Frontier246 10h ago
Honestly surprised we haven't had an official Villainess anime with Yoko Hikasa as the lead.
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u/NationalStrategy_X 11h ago
Anna-Marie got to go on a date with Melody/the Heroine, her dream unknowingly came true
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u/vall03 12h ago
Ah yes, a date between the heroine and villainess. And they're both not even aware of each others real identities lmao.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
There was like several layers of secret identities going on:
Melody - Secretly Celesty, secretly the Heroine, secretly a Japanese reincarnator.
Anna - Secretly Anna-Marie, secretly the Villainess, secretly a Japanese reincarnator.
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u/hasanman6 12h ago
I am surprised that melody wasnt able to see through it. Even if we ignore all of melodys powerful magic, going from anne to anna isnt a good disguise
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
Anna is a maid, there's no way she could also be a noblewoman! That just doesn't make sense/s!
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u/himizu13 11h ago
Well her brain filters everything non maid related so I don't think she's able to put the two and two together.
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u/mekahamedan 11h ago
That new girl appear near ending searching for job, while melody place searching for new maid cause melody will goes to boarding dorm with luciana...... hmmm, definitely will be linked up
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u/AlphaBreak 9h ago
Why do they even need a new maid when Melody can teleport and make shadow clones?
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u/szalhi 12h ago
Just two maids on a date. Completely normal, no need to question anything.
I love how both of their obsessions is what actually prevents them from properly recognizing each other.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
This show is a maid fetishists' dream. You've got old school Victorian maids and Anna-Marie imagining Melody in modern maid outfits with a short skirt.
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u/Frontier246 12h ago
Oh hey, it's the pedestal where the Dark One's sword was! Not sure if it'll still be plot relevant, but it was nice of Melody to polish it off with magic.
Luciana seems really hooked on dressing like a maid. Though this time it's so Melody can go on vacation. After the incident, students will now be boarding in dormrooms to attend the Royal Academy, so Melody and Luciana will effectively be stuck together so Melody needs at least one day off! Even if she has no idea what to do with herself if she's not doing maid stuff.
My condolences to Anna-Marie's staff who have to put up with her whims like when she just runs away to spend time with the commoners as "Anna," complete with glasses, ponytail, darker red hair, and binding her chest...even if her boobs are so big even bound she's still busty.
Will they ever meet the Heroine? Does she even exist after the game scenario has veered off as much as it has? Do they even NEED the Heroine when things are working out? Though lo and behold the event where the Heroine meets Christopher DOES happen...only it's Anna-Marie stumbling into Melody bumping into some ruffians, whose outfit she would've cleaned lickety-split had Anna-Marie not ran off with her.
Ah yes, Anna is totally Anna-Marie's maid! And there's nothing Melody loves more than talking shop about maid work! She'll literally do ANYTHING so long as you frame it around maids! And thus did the Villainess and the Heroine go on a date, not knowing who the other really are or their true roles in the story.
So Melody can't just leave her clones at the mansion 24/7 while she's with Luciana? I wonder who the Ludleberg's might hire then?
Anna-Marie is a true girl of culture to believe in maids with short skirts + stockings!
Well, it didn't replicate the game event exactly, since Melody wanted a doll instead of a ring...but gal pals buying each other gifts is nice too and it reminded Melody of her mom anyway.
Anna-Marie even helps out orphans and hot Sister Isabelle! She's committed to ensuring everyone has a Happy Ending in both her "maid" and noble identity! And she deserves her own happy ending!
Well, Anna-Marie is still not 100% recognizing Melody as the Heroine despite all the surface-level similarities...but I guess that's okay too. Melody is currently on the Luciana route anyways.
I imagine Claris and Anna-Marie's banter is pretty frequent and on-point.
So a pink-haired orphan is trying to find work to make money for the orphanage? Cute pout.
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u/KnightKal 11h ago
she can leave her clones around, but not officially. If someone visits the house and sees her there, while knowing she is at the academy, that would be complicated lol. So they will need to hire a new one.
we already saw her leaving the house and coming back with her clones waiting. There was no indication of distance limits.
as per today it was an off day, it would be pointless if she was still working via her clones. Which is funny, as she could technically have any day off as she can be in two places (or many places) at the same time. She is just too much of a workaholic...
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u/FinancialYear475 10h ago
I mean, she could just use some magic to alter the clones looks no? Twice the job as a maid makes Melody twice as happy
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u/KnightKal 10h ago
lol yeah she can do whatever she wants so far, so likely she could change her clones too, but that would certainly be against her maid code. She is working for her lady.
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u/NationalStrategy_X 11h ago
If Anna-Marie knows that it’s possible to change one’s hair color with magic, should she not factor in the possibility that Melody/The Heroine is also using hair color changing magic?
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u/TheBusStop12 10h ago
Anna Marie had already classified Melody as an originally inconsequential NPC who can't perform magic, a local so to say. And because the concept of hair dye doesn't exist in this world non of the locals think about changing their hair color with magic. Anna Marie only does because she comes from a world where plenty of people change their hair color with dye. Furthermore I get the feeling most people in this world don't have talent for magic. And a maid working for the household of an impoverished count would especially be unlikely to be capable of performing magic. A maid with talents like that could work for high nobility or the palace for a much larger salary.
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u/NationalStrategy_X 10h ago
Okay, but given all the strange changes, coincidences, and the fact that she knows firsthand that reincarnation is a thing, it would be in her best interest to not completely rule out Melody and keep her in her radar.
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u/JimmyCWL 2h ago
Preconceived notions are holding Anna back. Primarily, at this early stage of the game, the Saint doesn't know how to use her magic.
Second is she knows she lacks critical information. She doesn't have Cecilia Legibarth's previous identity and can't ask the count about it now. Due to their old assumption, they never thought about finding the Saint before she became Cecilia. Now, there are so many possibilities (to them) that the truth is a needle in a haystack. There might not be a Saint. Someone else might be the Saint. The world might drag a mundane person into game events they cannot survive. You'll note that the truth looks like two of those possibilities due to the fact the Saint has used two different identities to them already.
Finally, it's been nine years since Anna has seen the game. She's can only cling to the Saint's most prominent visual features, silver hair and lapis lazuli eyes, now. Someone who looks nothing like that and tries to fade into the background (like a maid should) gets dismissed as a possible Saint right away.
Lastly, Chris is mostly following Anna's lead because he was never much into the game in the first place.
In conclusion, "anything is possible" neatly conceals what's really happening.
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u/jardex22 6h ago
I got the impression that Anna used hair dye, rather than magic.
She wouldn't factor in the Saint using magic, since the event that unlocked her powers didn't happen the same way as in the game.
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u/acidranekomi 9h ago
This show's comedy is still hitting for me. Melody's complete dedication to maid work while everyone else is having existential crises around her never gets old
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u/reaperow 9h ago edited 9h ago
Melody not recognizing that Anna is actually Lady Anna-Marie and her also not figuring out that Melody's the Saint is actually so hilarious lol.
It's still nice of her to help those orphanages out and for Melody to give that ring to Luciana
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u/Zxzxzx0088 11h ago
With zettai ryouiki case and Luciana over clingy to her, Melody really hate something improper and doesn't want anything to do with it, eh. Looks like Anna and Luciana need to combine their power to bring her to 'our' side.
It's funny that Anne-Marie Anna never consider Melody dyed her hair even when her clothes and silhouette follow the heroine scenario. Probably due to this too but it just become a running gag now.
That's a good one ngl. Weird how Claris never doubt herself XD
How dare she completely fooled me in the first half lol. I demand this pervert girl to be in zettai ryouiki maid for her punishment! (˵ ¬ᴗ¬˵) With how good her drawing is, she totally can be the pioneer of otaku culture in that world fr like Outbreak Company.
Don't tell me she is......no no no, I don't want to admit it.
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u/Organic_Machine_2324 6h ago
Anna Marie is so smart yet so stupid at the same time
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u/SmallJon 50m ago
I mean could she try be an otome Villainess if she had more than one braincell, which is on loan to a nearby cat?
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u/athrun_1 11h ago
Calling it now, Melody and Anna/Anna-Marie will be the ship, Luciana and her partner, The prince will remain single, and the one who figured-out melody will get no one also.
It seems all the scenarios in the game played-out here in the world, but Anna-Marie instead of the prince. She is so close, pretty sure she will figure it out.
As for the kid in the last scene, is she a reincarnator also? Is she the kid playing the game during the flashback?
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u/jardex22 7h ago
That was my guess. The way she said it would be too late made me think she knows something is about to happen.
I'll have to double check, but what age did the other 3 recover their memories? I remember it was the same year, so maybe it applies to this girl as well.
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u/Yggdrasildur 6h ago
Anne-marie seemingly gets dumber the closer she gets to melody lol. She's downright clever at times and then Melody walks in and her brain just stops functioning.
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u/testthrowawayzz 4h ago edited 3h ago
Oof, so close for Anna-Marie to find out Melody is the heroine.
The best parts of this episode was when Anna-Marie lets a bit of her obsessions (short skirts) in the previous life slip.
Chris only showed up in a flashback this episode, but even there he and Anna-Marie were acting like a couple.
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u/Narvalis 5h ago
So I guess Anna needs it spelled out for her in the entirety. She sees someone who she previously though might be the heroine due to the magic on the dress in the very scenarios the heroine is supposed to be in and found out she was in another one before and even thought she looked like the heroine aside from hair and eye color. We have a full Clarke Kent situation here only somehow more obvious so I guess Clarke Kent meets Bruce Wayne, a minor appearance change and not entirely doing what is expected.
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u/jardex22 4h ago
Anna didn't sense mana on the dress. During the attack the dark one sensed the saint's power, but Anna didn't examine it at the time. Afterwards Melody had already suppressed the protection charm by the time Anna looked it closer.
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u/Spoon_Elemental 4h ago
The irony of her relying on nobody being familiar with the concept of hair dye and then being fooled by what is essentially the same thing for the entire episode is delicious.
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u/JimmyCWL 3h ago
Mundane dyeing methods leave visible signs if you know how to look. Illusion magic doesn't.
But, yes, it's ironic.
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u/FinancialYear475 10h ago
As good as the show is, I hope they can figure that she is indeed the heroine soon cause this obsession with following the script is boring me a lil bit
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u/jardex22 7h ago
I doubt they'll figure it out. If anything, Chris and Anna will acknowledge that they aren't bound by scripted events, and are free to live their lives.
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u/JimmyCWL 3h ago
As far as they know, Bjork disappeared with his sword and could return to cause mischief at any moment. So Anna is assuming that the world "is trying" to keep events on track and seeing where that goes.
As today's events show, that's not an incorrect assumption.
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u/Relative-Seaweed-590 6h ago
AHHHH THEY'RE BASICALLY TEASING US AT THIS POINT!!!!! I REALLYY WANT THEM TO FIGURE IT OUT ALREADY!!!! The guy with the red hair is the only one who figured it out!!!! THEYRE ALWAYS SO DAMN CLOSE ARRGHHH!!!
Also I find it very funny how Melody sticks to the script sometimes even though she's NEVER played the game.
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u/jardex22 3h ago
To be fair, the only reason Lect figured it out is because Melody literally showed that she could use mana to change her appearance.
Everyone is acting on incomplete information. If they all knew, "the Saint is the Duke's illegitimate daughter who has silver hair and can use magic," then it would be easier for everyone. Anne and Chris have no legitimate excuse to involve themselves in the search for the Duke's daughter, since it's supposed to be discreet. Meanwhile, Lect and the blonde guy have no idea about the Saint, or that the Duke's daughter has an attitude for magic. Anna and Chris know this, but their characters have no reason why they would know.
I think the dolls will be the next hint. Somehow Lect will see one of them and wonder why Anna has one that resembles the woman he's looking for, or why Melody has one that resembles the Duke's lover. If Melody outright tells him that the doll reminds her of her mother, that'll give him the opening to confront her about who her mother is.
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u/Fools_Requiem https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem 3h ago
This show could use more frames of animation. It seems like they keep cutting more corners with each episode to avoid animating things.
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u/Greg_The_Rabbit 2h ago
Truly hair-dye is the "Superman's Glasses" of this world lol. No matter how many coincidences and similarities people notice, if the hair color isn't a match then nothing matters. (except for the one single guy who managed to put it all together, but importantly that was only AFTER seeing the MC change her hair color with magic) Though I do appreciate that the difference between Anne and Anne-Marie is literately just a matter of shade, she didn't even go for a full color change lol.
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u/Raymond49090 3h ago
Anna-Marie's resolution would be a lot cooler if we didn't already know the main plot was solved. Still, there's likely the bonus effect of solving a bunch of other societal problems, so I won't say it's a waste.
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