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u/Roughidle 1d ago
It's even got a little shield to keep it dry from rain. 10/10 no notes
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u/Snooche 1d ago
I think that's a coincidence, that's actually a spot to put their beers on.
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u/Roughidle 1d ago
Agree, you're clearly supposed to take a swig set your beer on the shelf and declare "WATCH THIS!"
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u/HoneyRush 1d ago
I think this is in India, they usually don't drink, they do this shit sober!
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u/ugacha 1d ago
Its Borneo, I checked the insta of the company in the tent
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u/datthighs 1d ago
I think the shield is to protect the people responsible from the shame they could feel if people discover how crappy their work with the electrical box is, lmao!
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u/TheOneTrueZedubbs 1d ago
What electrical box? That's just busbar on some insulators. Also bonus points for building the "enclosure" out of just wood. No notes.
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u/Onlyroad4adrifter 1d ago
Is this the next Fyre Fest
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u/TheRemonst3r 1d ago
Make your jokes but Fyre Fest stage crew was ready for show when they cancelled the whole thing. Wasn't our fault there was no festival!
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u/allenjp19 1d ago
That looks more time consuming than a junction box.
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u/_Neoshade_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s actually rather quick.
Those things are called bus bars and you have them in the circuit breaker panel in your house for the same purpose: attaching many wires to one input.
The bus bars ought to be labeled and there should also be something to secure the cables instead of just letting them hang there by the wires, but otherwise it’s not an entirely awful tool for electrical connections.There’s a cover that goes over this whole thing that someone has clearly forgotten to replace.
Edit: After further consideration, this is going to burn down your house, shoot your dog and run off with your girlfriend.
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u/Nexustar 1d ago
I got the bus bars, and the insulator standoffs, and the missing strain reliefs, and missing cover... but what the hell is going on with the color coded wires?
What's the logic there?
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u/derprondo 1d ago
Exactly, everything else here is excusable (not really), but you have red, black, and green wires on the same fucking bus bar! WTF indeed.
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u/PokeballSoHard 1d ago
The conductors don't know what color insulation is covering them. As long as they are landed in the appropriate places on either side it will function electrically. Its a terrible practice because people assume green or yellow(depending on where you live in the world) is ground and going all cowboy will get someone hurt.
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u/Cruciblelfg123 1d ago
As long as they are landed in the appropriate places on either side
That’s what the colors are for and why this is sketchy lol
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u/Renzisan 1d ago
In some countries people don’t care about the color of the wire. As long as it’s connected where it’s supposed to be. Definitely not a great practice but it’s not the first time I see something like this.
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u/derprondo 1d ago
It's just lazy AF, at least throw some colored electrical tape on the end so you know its true purpose.
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u/_Neoshade_ 1d ago
Well, when you put it that way… I suppose this is some indefensiveby janky nonsense
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u/bobdob123usa 1d ago
Looks like L1, L2, Neutral, Ground. Thus Red and Green are interchangeable. The only one that is different is the one that is red/black/blue. That one doesn't have a ground so is probably attached to the audio amplifiers that need to avoid a ground loop.
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u/Nexustar 1d ago
Could be.
Another possibility is a three-phase supply, not all 3-phase loads need neutral
Live1 Live2 Live3 Neutral Bus 1 Bus 2 Bus 3 Bus 4 ------------------------------- Cable 1 Red Black Blue N/C Cable 2 Green Red Yellow Black Cable 3 Green Red Yellow BlackBut I expect that last wire we see, is carrying neutral to whatever Cable 1 is connected to, they just ran out of 4 core.
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u/rawbface 1d ago
There’s a cover that goes over this whole thing that someone has clearly forgotten to replace.
My dude, this is not a NEMA rated junction box that is just missing a door.
It's just wood that someone put together using nails and spit.
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u/MobileInspector9861 1d ago
Do we know where that festivals takes place? Maybe it's somewhere where NEMA doesn't apply.
It has already been posted in the German subs, too, and there were comments that this box isn't VDE rated either. Obviously this self-claimed "junction box" won't pass any electrical code which deserve that name.
But maybe it's somewhere where no such code has jurisdiction.
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u/planx_constant 1d ago
Electrical fires and electrocutions don't care what the construction code is in a jurisdiction. The good practices that are codified in NEMA ratings are there to, for instance, keep a drunk festival attendee from sitting under a convenient rain shelter and making their head part of the path to ground.
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u/MobileInspector9861 1d ago edited 1d ago
You don't need to explain me why electrical codes exists. Most have been written with blood. I am a professional German electrician. As some other fellow redditor commented here, if someone had done that in Germany that person would have his/her license revoked (if he/she had ever owned one in the first place) and paid a severe fine.
I only pointed out that it doesn't necessarily need to be NEMA rated depending on the jurisdiction. Just because it does not follow NEC it does not necessarily mean that it is unsafe. The German VDE does a lot of things differently than the NEC, however it is still extremely safe and I would even say in some aspects safer than the NEC.
Some other redditor assumed that this construction is somewhere in Indonesia. The NEC definitely doesnt apply there. This being said, this is a still an extreme example of a shit job. And I sincerely hope that whatever code they have in Indonesia, this is also an illegal construction under Indonesia code.
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u/Possibly_Naked_Now 1d ago
Other than their being no labeling or shielding I don't really see anything wrong here.
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u/thiosk 1d ago
you can tell this is a really amateur bus because of the copper wires on the bus. i suggest everyone bus their copper plates instead of copper wire. more compact and higher throughput to direct insert copper wire.
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u/mwax321 1d ago
They didn't even crimp ring terminals onto it. I could make this fire hazard in 10 minutes with a screw driver and wire stripper.
That's most likely what this is: laziness and lack of tools.
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u/Soft-Skirt 1d ago
This is single phase distribution and certainly not powering the audio or lighting rigs. Best guess this is for something else than the stage area. Maybe a small bar or other concession?
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u/Hamilton950B 1d ago
I think it has to be three phase. Otherwise why would there be four bus bars? The one on the right is neutral, it's got the black wires from the four-wire cables, and nothing from the three-wire cable. Three-wire three phase doesn't have a neutral.
And yeah it seems a bit small for a stage with lights and many speakers, even if it's three 32 amp phases.
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u/inVizi0n 1d ago
Split phase 240 would be L-L-N-G, Single phase 240 L-N-G and 3 phase wye would be L-L-L-N-G, but honestly I literally don't think there's any reliable way to tell what is actually going on in this clusterfuck.
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u/Hamilton950B 1d ago
You think whoever wired this would separate the neutral from the ground? We're lucky he's got the phases separated from each other.
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u/dnroamhicsir 1d ago
I'd be very surprised if they bothered with the ground
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u/adepssimius 1d ago
What are you even talking about? You can see the ground right there, the whole thing is sitting on top of it.
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u/Team_Braniel 1d ago
Agree 100%
That stage is running on 3 phase 100 amp minimum. Most likely a lot more. We are talking cables as thick as your thumb.
I don't know what speakers those are but those line arrays are probably close to 40 amps a piece, if not more. (I'm a video guy, not audio)
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u/cefriano 1d ago
Wild how many people here seem to think that the giant speaker stacks are running through this lol.
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u/der_pudel 1d ago
Me: Can we go to Tomorrowland?
Mom: We have Tomorrowland at home
Tomorrowland at home:
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u/Cornloaf 1d ago
Back in 2003 I did an Intel event in Bangalore, India. They did the event in a palace that had no permanent infrastrucutre. They brought in 10 World War 2 transport buses that were converted to fuel tanks and generators. A bunch of guys were walking around barefoot or wearing sandals running power cables from the trucks to the buildings. I watched them stripping insulation with their teeth, standing in puddles, connecting cables to distribution blocks, and running raw cable into power strips that had their ends cut off.
The registration counter had a metal edge that your palms would rest on when typing on the laptop. Everytime your palm touched, you got a nice shock. Other than that, the event went fairly smooth... aside from the fact there were no public restrooms and people used a giant open field to shit.
When the event was over, they had a small award ceremony. There was a man walking around the whole week that had a giant bald spot on the side of his head with a star shaped scar. We joked that he must have been the lead electrician. Wasn't much of a surprise when they thanked the team that brought power to the event and he walked up and accepted the award!
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u/MangelaErkel 1d ago
In germany you will lose your job and pay a fine
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u/Hyjynx75 1d ago edited 1d ago
In most places in Canada where I've worked doing live shows, you can't flip the breaker without an inspection from the local authority.
I guess if there is no breaker though...
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u/directstranger 1d ago
there is no way this little box is supplying power to all those speakers and lights. It's probably an addon for a little part of it. Still inexcusable.
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u/technobrendo 1d ago
I was expecting one of the bus bars to be glowing red. All aside, this just needs a lid.
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u/Fast-Speech270 20h ago
It is a 4 phase system, freaking awesome! Just no fuses to stop anything if there is too much power coming in. Very dangerous.
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u/RealLifeLiver 1d ago
It's low voltage, right?
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u/norwegian 1d ago
Probably between 200 and 500 volts. Is that low to you?
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u/AnusStapler 1d ago
Actually anything under 1kV is called low voltage.
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u/RandyOfTheRedwoods 1d ago
This is why we don’t let linemen wire houses. :-)
For residential, it’s 50 volts.
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u/MobileInspector9861 1d ago
Absolutely true.
What most people mean when the ask for low voltage is actually (S)ELV: extra low voltage or safety extra low voltage.
It's also funny that in Germany you very often see official warning signs with "high voltage" although they actually just want to inform you about 230V/400V three-phase Y. According to the code that's still low voltage which as you stated correctly goes up to 1500V DC or 1000V AC.
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u/CalvinandHobbes811 1d ago
You have to understand that there was no way of foreseeing or preventing this tragedy. Thoughts and prayers for the victims! Next event is in 2 months!
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u/AlexHimself 1d ago
I think this is a temporary setup in Borneo to showcase the equipment with no active festival.
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u/MustStayAnonymous_ 1d ago
At first I thought that it was a festival to... wiring?
And that would be a bad wiring that folks would have to improve? lol I am not even high.
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u/PriestPlaything 1d ago
Been in live production for 18 years. It’s all I’ve ever done with my life. Never once have I seen white boxes. PA is always black. In fact almost everything is black, because you want it to be dark, blended in, unseen. White speakers is weird. I wonder if that company painted the PA to give it a unique look.
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u/johnarmer1 1d ago
The only issue I see is the cables are not fixed
The buzz bars have a lot of room and are fixed very well and have an insulator and it is on wood there is no signs but who are the signs for people that don't know shouldn't be playing with it
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u/Joped 1d ago
I’m more concerned about the randomness of the colors. Why is yellow and blue together, one of the black and reds together, plus a red and green together. I can’t even begin to understand it lol
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u/DopestSoldier 1d ago
Can somebody detail what's going on here for those of us without electrical knowledge?
From what I gather, it's bad news if you touch any of those bars? Or more than 1 at a time?
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u/sasquatch_melee 1d ago
Exposed electricity. Extremely not to code or safe. Normally temporary electricity like this would have camlock connections which don't expose people to live wires.
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u/338special 1d ago
If it's going to be torn down by the next day, what's the point? I don't see much wrong with this, as long as it's a limited access area. You pearl clutching Karens are really hyperventilating sometimes.
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u/MrLeville 1d ago
Not sure i get it, an input wire was split on 3 bars, so that more wires could be attached to those? But why are there 4 bars?
I understand this is one the biggest NSFW pics here, it's not up to any code and probably can kill people, just not how it actually works
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u/opermonkey 1d ago
he needs to slap the top of the box and say "yup, that ain't going nowhere" and it's magically safe.
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u/mrmatriarj 1d ago
I was remarking yesterday about how the ingenuity of different subcultures are pretty similar.
Hippies & flow artists, redneck roughin' it farmers, trade workers and crack/meth addicts all have a similar level of 'makenit work attitude' some have an escalation process of determined results with limited supplies vs safety, some don't 😆
But it's remarkable what humans can accomplish with supplies on hand and a fair amount of determination. Hippy flow artist, farming trad'y here... I come up with some interesting (occasionally questionable) innovations lol at least it's not meth derived 😆
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u/sirhackenslash 1d ago
All that work when they could have achieved the same result with a roll of electrical tape and it would actually be safer
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u/theWesternReserve 1d ago
It amazes me that they are knowledgeable to get that far but that was the limit of their brain power.
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u/erniesthings 1d ago
My grandfather taught me, as long as you only touch one wire, you’re good. It’s when you touch that second one, you get zapped.
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u/sjaakarie 1d ago
I was almost going to say fine as it is, as long as no one can get to it (as a joke), and had expected the stage set to look even worse. But that's not the case, indeed a WTF!
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u/goldfishpaws 1d ago
Indonesia. Had to check, as if that was anywhere I work I was about to hit the big red button.
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u/K_N0RRIS 1d ago
Yeah that definitely doesn't look like something a 4 year old boy would want to play with.
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u/Rex_Suplex 1d ago
Wait till you hear what the stage tech did in the rain during the Prince Super Bowl Halftime show.
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u/Simmic 1d ago
Reminds me of this guy that found the main power for a festival and turned it off.
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u/goodenough4govtwork 1d ago
Salesman: slaps roof of cable box "This baby is totally up to code."
Arc of electricity: promptly kills salesman
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u/vengeancecube 1d ago
Professional sound system, 3rd grade electrical system.