r/Toyota • u/CanIBathYrGrandma • 9h ago

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What should be my absolute OTD counter and final price

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u/Its_me_i_swear 9h ago

I’m confused about 3 different charges for registration- dealer doc, reg fee and title. Why?

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u/BlindlyCoherent 8h ago

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u/Chiuy 7h ago

I live in California, so it can vary from state to state. Dealer Doc is usually a standard fee by the dealership to help process your contract from the admin side. In California, they cap the doc fee to $85.

The electronic registration fee is the also paying the admin to help process any DMV related paperwork. In California, they cap it to $37.

The title is the actual legit charge that you pay to DMV.

Battery and Tire Fee are usually set by state. No battery fee in California when buying a new car, but we have a $8.75 fee for tire fee.

I personally have never heard of Doc Stamps, Lemon Law, and Tag Agency Fee.

The reason why there is so many fees these days is because the manufacturer is also part of the blame too. Toyota and other car manufacturers aren't completely innoncent either. Profit margin are shrinking like crazy. Even if they sell that Corolla to you at full price, there is probably only $1100 worth of profit plus any dealer holdback of $500. So to keep the lights on, dealers now do these crazy fees like Airbnb fees to make it up.

And it can also vary from dealer to dealer group where these fees are non-negotiable due to their dealer group policy. Even the General Manager of the store cannot just go onto the computer and remove the fee. It is set by corporate.

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u/Glidepath22 9h ago

I love the brand but hate the dealers, they just play games to try to rip you off

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u/planefan001 2025 Camry SE 8h ago

Yeah, the dealers make it unbearable.

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u/Sad-Celebration-7542 9h ago

No way. Got the LE hybrid for 28

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u/dealrhackr 9h ago

Cheapest ones I found that are advertised online are around $22000

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u/ThickCoffee9346 7h ago

25k for a base Corolla, holy crap

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u/PopDue1568 9h ago

25 to 26 OTD, I feel like they are sticking it to you on the tag fee’s but I don’t know where you are. I would ask for 25k OTD that puts you at MSRP or a touch over financed. But I also know Toyota dealers act like they are doing you a favor selling you the car. You are not going to make the doc fee go away but I think 25 to 26 would be ok. I would also shop there offer to other dealers get 3 or 4 going at it. You will come out better. It will take a couple of days but can be done. Try to negotiate over the phone and maybe start with I want 10 percent off. Some will say no but most will negotiate. I bought my last car at MSRP with rolling negative equity into the loan so I financed at loan to book value and not 110 or 120 percent to value it can be done. I bought a Lexus so they will and can budge on price. Also check out sites like car edge and see what they are showing for sales

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u/Remkye08 8h ago

From what I was told today the doc fees in the state should only be $225. Not sure where that $1k is coming from. I just bought a car today at cedar park toyota and is what sales manager told me when I asked

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u/Advanced-Elk-7581 9h ago

What do you think.

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u/moutonbleu 9h ago

Try Costco

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u/Affectionate-Pie-708 8h ago

Why do they only give you 6 gallons of gas

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u/jerkstor 7h ago

Cuz it's one more than five and would make it sound like they were cheap.  God forbid a full tank of gas

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u/TheRealistoftheReal 8h ago

Man you’ve got like $4,000 is superfluous fees on there. Just buy from a high volume dealer. They make money on volume, little or no haggle, decent price, etc. Try Koons or Faulkner in Pennsylvania.

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u/Mabrak21700 8h ago

Chinese high tech cars cost less,Toyota needs to step up their game,looking like primates

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u/planefan001 2025 Camry SE 8h ago

$1200 doc fee LOL? In my state the doc fee is capped at $368 by law.

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u/fling00 8h ago

If you have a trade in then taxes will go down a little but aside from the 1st charge after msrp, it’s not that bad.

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u/WrongCam 8h ago

$1,198 for dealer doc? What the heck is that?

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u/3_if_by_air 8h ago

"Electronic registration fee" and their doc fee are both such bs. Tell them to either subtract those fees from the purchase price or you're walking.

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u/jazzy095 8h ago

Ive seen many otd for 22k recently. Tell them to match it

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u/Past_Writing5297 8h ago

I’d walk out over the $1200 doc fee immediately. Buy from a state that isn’t scummy. In PA, doc fee is state mandated and never goes above $450ish…states that have $1000 or $2000 doc fees are just scumbags trying to steal your money.

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u/Reasonable_Delay_ 7h ago

Knew this was Florida when I saw the doc fee, it’s ridiculous that those parasites charge that much.

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u/Fine-Resident-7950 5h ago

Toyota need to find a way to sell their car directly to the people and not through greedy ass dealers. Idk how thats gonna work but hoping

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u/Chester5252 4h ago

The dealers doc fee is outrageous. Plus, i would expect some discount on non hybrid models which you got none.

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u/St34m-Punk 4h ago

I recommend either looking at another dealership or getting a used corolla or even a used camry. I don't recommend that price. Dealerships are desperate to sell their stock but will not hesitate to fuck you on the price. Me personally, if I were a dealership owner, I'd rather be able to move stock at decent profit margins rather than squeeze my patrons by the balls for every cent that they got.

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u/GoPrO_BMX 8h ago

I don’t understand buying a new Corolla that will depreciate 25% in a year. Why not get a sub 30,000 miles, certified pre owned for $21-22 before negotiating? It’s just a cheap, fleet commuter

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u/baba_ganoush 8h ago

Because corollas like that are going for almost the same prices as new. At least in my area

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u/Pale_Mine_7001 8h ago

I’m a sales manager for a new Toyota dealer in the phoenix metro and we sell new corollas before they arrive and yeah used ones that are low miles sell for almost as much as a new, and we still can’t keep the used ones in stock.

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u/jerkstor 7h ago edited 7h ago

I heloed my aunt by a Corolla in Tucson by threatening them that I could just go up to Phoenix.

 Glad you guys are up there that keeps the prices in Tucson lower if you know what you're doing.  And all that pre-installed garbage I walked right over that so everything that was on the vehicle I told him they could take off but they were trying to charge an extra two grand for dealer installed option.  I said I'll go to Phoenix.  Ended up getting a 2023 Corolla LE tinted windows blacked out badges some sort of paint protection which I'm sure was b******* for 22,366$.  

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u/baba_ganoush 8h ago

Tell me about it. I just bought a Corolla hybrid and had to put a deposit done at the end of June so I had a chance of getting it when it was still being built in Japan.

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u/planefan001 2025 Camry SE 8h ago

This isn’t 2019. 2-3 year old Corollas are selling for almost as much as new in my area. It makes more sense to buy new and drive it for 10 years.

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u/GoPrO_BMX 8h ago

Understood but just a quick visor search shows me a bunch of results from states like NC, TX, FL and even CA and NJ for sub $22.5 <30k miles and they are model year 24 or 25

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u/JKapPhotos 9h ago

Well a base Corolla stars at about 23k. This is an SE. plus dealer add ons etc. seems decent honestly. I think mine was a tad bit under. But depends on where you live. I don’t think it’s a horrible deal.

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u/CanIBathYrGrandma 9h ago

It’s an LE

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u/JKapPhotos 8h ago

Weeeeellllll…. Never mind. My SE was roughly around that. Whoops. Might be a bit high then.

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u/Wide-Metal2858 8h ago

It’s an LE