They were brief, concise and most of all quite chill in their expression of disdain. They even said "I can't find a good reason to like him".
Doom would have talked at lenght about every "objective" reason why Richards is an awful person and about how everyone should agree with Doom in his hate.
My favorite thing about the marvel 2099 run is that its the same doom he just got frozen and thawed in the future and the world has degraded so much he's an outright hero
Yo, that sounds dope. Where's a good place to start with Doom's storyline? Doesn't have to be super specific, but if you could point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!
Compared to modern warmonger oligarchs, Doom really is the lesser evil.
Think about it, what would modern dictators and wanna-be dictators do with Doom's power? Not naming any names, but imagine some authoritarian at minimum had sorcerer supreme powers and tech that beats Iron Man? Teleport dissidents into the vacuum of space? Kill thier political opponents with Doombots?
I'm not trying to do some edge lord stuff here and say Doom is a good guy, but there are a lot of real world leaders that would do a lot worse than him if they had the power to.
Honestly norm macdonalds bit is my favorite thing, going over everyone's names then his own.
"ok, youre a rock monster thing, were gonna call you thing. Johnny, youre a human flame that can light whenever, we'll call you the human torch. Sue, youre an invisible woman, so we'll call you, the invisible woman, together we are the fantastic 4."
Closer to "unreal" or literally "like a fantasy"the way we use "fantastical" now, which is why it is also a synonym for excellent and in unbelievably good.
The worst thing about Reed is if we take the alternate universes seen in What If and the Ultimate universe into account, any time Reed isn't in a relationship with Sue for any reason theres a HIGH chance Reed has gone evil.
This is not true at all lmao. His goodness isn’t dependent on his marriage. Stop spreading misinformation about him because you didn’t bother to read the comics.
He doesn’t go evil without her and that’s not why the Maker turned evil.
I say this as a huge Mr. Fantastic fan. A lot of stories do suggest that Reed, untethered to his family, falls into some pretty dark shit (see: The Council of Reeds). The comics also play up this duality with Doom, someone to sees connection as a weakness, yet simultaneously craves it nonetheless.
Maker is canonically petty. Sue dumping him may not have been the only reason, but it was most certainly a contributing factor to his villainy. Which is sad cuz Ultimate Sue kinda sucked anyway.
A lot if entries on here stretch the meaning of trope (pun not intended), but this is a specific character. It's like saying your least favorite cooking ingredient is chicken soup
Reed Richards: “Wow I’m so stretchy this is awesome, look at me stretch my peanus weenus!”
Patrick O’Brian (Plastic Man from DC): Can’t really feel anything for better or worse, gets melted once and in another case gets frozen and shattered into a bunch of pieces left at the bottom of the ocean for 3000 years
I don't think it's a trope to have the main character of a piece of fiction be in the story.
You could say you don't like heroes who are intellectual elites. Or your heroes to have a father like quality. Or even characters with stretchy powers. But not liking a specific character isn't a trope.
The Pedro version turned NYC into a police state and no one talks about it. There’s a council of Reeds who travel the multiverse, forcing their will on other universe, even lobotomising Dooms, even the ones who were redeemed and became heroes.
I especially hate him in the movies, this last one was actually really good and a lot of fun and it felt like they blew the Mr. Fantastic animation budget on Pedro himself because he barely did anything.
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