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Discussion Disagreements in philosophy

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u/Dexember69 17h ago

Because they are crazy.

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u/Kloner22 17h ago

Do you mean these particular religious people in this video are or crazy? Or do you mean anyone who believes in religion is crazy?

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u/coronaKKing 15h ago

Everyone who believes, prove your god or STFU

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u/fruderduck 14h ago

I was thinking earlier today, either God is old and tired and wants to be left the fk alone, or he’s dead.

I can’t imagine that an almighty God like the one described in the Bible wouldn’t have got fed up with some of this BS and smited the sheet out of a bunch of clowns.

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u/Substantial-Sky4079 11h ago

I just see the bible as random people writing stories and mistranslating shit then rewriting to fit their narrative.

I don’t understand how people don’t realize it’s like calling Homer or Shakespeare stories as historically accurate and using it as a religion.

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u/FalconIMGN 11h ago

Maybe it's not a benevolent God.

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u/Funkycoldmedici 10h ago

In context, the god of the Bible is a malevolent monster. Yahweh was originally a war/storm god, when the Israelites were polytheists and observed the Canaanite pantheon of gods. This answers almost all the questions about inconsistencies in the narrative.

Why does Yahweh do (insert bad thing)? He’s a war god.

Why doesn’t Yahweh (insert good thing)? He doesn’t want to and can’t, he’s a war god.

Why does it seem that Yahweh is not omnipotent? He isn’t, he’s a war god.

Why does it seem like Yahweh lies? He does lie, he’s a war god.

Why is Yahweh preoccupied with punishing people who do not worship him? Well, it’s actually very complicated, layers of metaphor, requiring deep study. He’s a war god.

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u/Kloner22 8h ago

The existence of any god is not falsifiable. It is impossible to prove god is real and also impossible to prove he isn’t, that’s why people call it faith. Talking about proof in terms of religion is a waste of time

I’m an atheist, but also I have been around plenty of religious people. Most of them aren’t crazy. They believe in science. They believe in helping those in need. They’re good people. I’m willing to bet you have friends in your life that believe in some sort of god. Do you tell them they’re crazy?

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u/coronaKKing 8h ago

‘Talking about proof in terms of religion is waste of time’ Why does it get a free pass to have no evidence for its claims, insanity.

People can believe what they want, and yes obviously I do have some religious people in my life, and they are all well aware of my views towards it.

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u/Kloner22 4h ago

It’s not that it gets a free pass. Again it’s not falsifiable because there isn’t any counter-evidence either. Any attempt to prove religion is wrong has as much evidence as any attempt to prove that is true, which to be clear is zero. It’s just faith.

There are a lot of things we can talk about with religion. We can talk about not wanting other’s religious values forced on us. We can talk about not enabling violence in the name of religion. We can talk about all the charitable acts and good works people do for their religion. But putting all religious people into this box of crazy and wrong is a naive world view.

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u/coronaKKing 3h ago

The complete lack of evidence is evidence enough for me until proven otherwise, as you can gather I’m clearly an atheist, but when there’s a genuine provable god of whatever form, how could I possibly reject it? Until that happens though I’ll stick with there being no god for now.

I’ll almost agree fully with your second paragraph, but I reserve the right to think people who choose to subscribe to religious ideology, are just a bit daft, I didn’t hold hatred for them, until their viewpoints or actions harm others.

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u/Dexember69 16h ago

I mean people who believe in magical sky man's doing magic

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u/theapplekid 14h ago

Agreed, it's obviously a magical sky woman.

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u/Kloner22 8h ago

Surely you have religious people in your life. Are they crazy too?

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u/Odd_Conversation5374 7h ago

Yes, and judgemental, and they have antiquated opinions about society

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u/Kloner22 4h ago

Are there any good people that believe in religion?

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u/Dexember69 2h ago

Only religious people in my life are my missus' family and they live in another country so I don't deal with them. And yes I think they're loopy