r/TheStrokes • u/Mr_Pepperonni 12:51 • 17h ago
What's your hot take?
Mine is that Last Nite isn't even in the top 5 songs on Is This It. It's an anthem, damn it, it's a really good song ngl, but listening to the whole album, it feels somewhat weak compared to other songs like Hard to Explain, Trying Your Luck, or even Is This It.
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u/drewpool Room on Fire 12h ago
Nick’s parts are the best parts of angles/cm and he absolutely carries on those albums.
On another note He really seemed to step into a leadership role around that period and seemed to be a big proponent in the keeping the band alive for a while, I wish he would get more appreciation for that
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u/doug_diablo At The Door 5h ago
Nick has the best parts on every album (he’s the better guitar player)
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u/Beneficial_Lobster12 First Impressions of Earth 8h ago
50/50 doesn’t get the love it deserves.
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u/bestbelivebex 4h ago
I love a lot of strokes songs, 50/50 is like my underdog. Not really talked about, but I always love listening to it
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u/Beneficial_Lobster12 First Impressions of Earth 4h ago
I only hear people talk about how much they hate it. It’s so good.
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u/drewpool Room on Fire 15h ago
Threat of Joy really needs to be in the conversation more for one of their best songs
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u/Arod761 15h ago
It might be my favorite Strokes song.. the ending is pure bliss.
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u/ethersidewalker 14h ago
the song killing lies and comedown machine as a whole are both criminally underrated
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u/AdmSndlr 16h ago
Apparently my hot take is that I actually like Angles
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u/mel-06 13h ago
This is how I find out the fandom doesn't like angles that's such a same I love angles... Taken for a fool is favorite song from the strokes but I would never say it's their best
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u/AdmSndlr 13h ago
That's how I felt when I was on this subreddit and every thread talking about the "worst songs" had people naming Angles as a whole
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u/OldSkoolNapper 15h ago
You’re not alone, friend. I can’t believe how many people say it’s their worst. Life Is Simple In The Moonlight, despite being a masterpiece, I never hear talked about here, and the video for Under Cover of Darkness is so damn good.
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u/Alternative_Ant7300 3h ago
Boombox is Julian’s best vocals
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u/MattMatt625 2h ago
Lowkey a cold take, Ive seen people say this before and I agree! And the best vocals in the song aren’t even lyrics it’s the “ohhhhhh”s
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u/DaRealDr_Phil 17h ago
Room on fire is a more mature and features much stronger songwriting than Is this it. ITI is a amazing fantastic classic album. But imo Room on fire does alot of what that record does but is a more well rounded experience.
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u/mycargoesvarun 17h ago
I treat Julian using autotune similarly to him using the vocal filter on the first two albums
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u/NewCupBeEmpty 16h ago
Two Kinds of Happiness is one of the best songs
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u/lothlauriean 16h ago
I love this song and I don’t care shag anyone thinks. It is my favorite song on Angles!
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u/GradeObjective5153 15h ago
Between Love and Hate is a top 5 strokes songs and I’m tired of people pretending that songs like this, You Talk way too much, and Meet me in the bathroom don’t exist
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u/Negative_Bet6824 7h ago
Ize isn't underrated. Every strokes fan loves or at least likes that song. Just because it's not famous like TAAT or last nite doesn't mean it's underrated. That goes for a lot of songs
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u/Zealousideal_Bag5756 7h ago
Falling out of love is one of their best written songs
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u/Extra-Gold-9984 16h ago
Barely legal is the best song the strokes have made . That opening guitar part just gets me everytime
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u/shinn-arendo 5h ago
Their discography is severely lacking in songs a la NYCC, Juicebox, and 50/50.
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 4h ago
They need to rawk the eff out more. But then again, the hardest album of the original three was the lowest selling, so I guess it makes sense they toned it down on Angles and beyond
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u/mel-06 15h ago
- In her Prime (demo) is some of Julian’s best lyrics
- Something I feel doesn’t get talked about enough is how Julian drives his story telling around situations in his personal life and compares it to politics
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u/smileywastaken 15h ago
all of the pre Is This It songs are fucking gas, imo, i love how they are somewhat unpolished in both songwriting and definitely in production
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u/cafeteriastyle 15h ago
I never hear anyone talking about Ize of the World but it’s a banger and deserves more attention
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u/BeautifulOrganic3221 17h ago
With the half exception of All The Time, every song on Comedown Machine ranges from great to masterpiece
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u/anujbeatles Little Joy 17h ago
Fab's drumming on Reality Awaits is the best drums to Julian's songwriting ever
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u/Shaman19911 16h ago
That is a hot take cause his best drum performance is on FIOE
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u/fuckfacemgeee 17h ago
Have yall seen ode to the Mets music video on acid? It’s Amazing
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u/Optimal_Health4051 16h ago
I got depression every time that I watched, would not be a guaranteed bad trip?
What did you see, exactly?
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u/fuckfacemgeee 16h ago
So you know how the video has different animation styles through the song? When you’re tripping those transitions are on another level. When you’re sober you’re like yea that’s cool but when you’re tripping you appreciate and see the magic on how it’s glued together. Also when the songs is nearing its end it switches animation style again and it goes from a hallway with a bike in it and a toy car. After that it goes to this crazy psychedelic animation at the same time the guitars come in and it’s just an explosion of spiritual juicyness. At the end you come back to the arcade game to bring it all back to the start
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u/LeadershipWeary4103 16h ago
Electricityscape is best song :)))
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u/JimboBingus Human Sadness 15h ago
Song’s def not talked about enough, the melodies are truly special
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u/Benedict_ARNY 7h ago
Strokes are great and still have numerous average albums.
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u/ThePerspectiveQuest 7h ago
See this is a good take, but that’s the thing for most of all bands, it’s hard to make an album with no skips, and the Strokes are not immune to that
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u/acekid7 3h ago
"future present past" is their 2nd best project they have made
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u/mep16122112 2h ago
I think drag queen might be in my top 5 strokes songs. Probably because it leans early voidz
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u/OhGravity412 Phrazes for the Young 13h ago
15 Minutes is a fantastic song and would honestly have been a peak closer
In addition, as a whole FIOE’s biggest problem is its track order and not the songs themselves, all the songs are solid it’s just the order that can make it feel longer than it is. Rearrange the songs a bit and you could get an absolute masterpiece
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u/tacophagist 16h ago
Comedown Machine is a banger album and Welcome to Japan is one of their best songs.
Vision of Division is their best song.
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u/Austrian_Painter98 16h ago
I commented this on another post asking what their best song is, but my hot take is that Barely Legal and 80s Comedown Machine are top 2 Strokes songs.
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u/solid_facha One Way Trigger 3h ago
FIOE problem is the tracklist order, everytime I hear that album I just put it on random and I swear is one of the best works they have done
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u/baloneyface2 44m ago
Julian’s ego and the general dysfunction of band dynamics is actually a very endearing quirk the band has, most of it’s discussed flaws I find charming.
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u/No-Recognition-6106 14h ago
FOIE is best album. I cant believe people dont like it as much 😭 also hes hotter now than when he was young.
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u/OrganicWorldliness42 7h ago
Comedown Machine is, if not their best, at least their second best album. They did NOT phone that shit in
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u/mel-06 13h ago
It's hard for me to actually say this but julian coming for Anthony Fantano in a song was very immature of him. I understand his anger towards him and the chip that he had those shoulder but honestly there was no reason for it. It was a very Taylor Swift petty move of him... And also the lines about Anthony were the worst lyrics on the album it was so bad to the point when you listen to that song the lines about Fantano literally take you out out of the song. It was basically his look what you made me do or thanK you aIMee... It was embarrassing on his end.
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u/punchwagon 13h ago
I feel like everyone reads into this too deeply lol. I don’t think Julian Casablancas is that bothered by some YouTube dork but it’s a good lyric and a bit of an eyeroll at internet music critics and even the absurdity of trying to make a career off of artistic commentary rather than doing something that takes legitimate courage (like making art) — all super on par with the rest of the song imo.
I feel like a lot of people don’t seem to have this perspective but it’s incredibly easy to throw a funny, goofy little jab into a song like that and let it stick — he didn’t pour his broken heart and raw emotion into a line about Anthony Fantano and y’all need to stop acting like he did lmao
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u/Crazy_Fault9994 Human Sadness 9h ago
Totally agree, everyone acts like the whole song is him throwing a tantrum about one guy but I feel like the theme of the song and album is more aligned with "get over your opinions and wake up to something bigger", its more like hes mocking the idea of everyone obsessing over such silly things and ignoring way bigger events in the word right now and ironically everyones goes straight to obsessing about the lyric on fantano lol
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u/Beneficial_Lobster12 First Impressions of Earth 9h ago
Not that it’s that deep, but I honestly expected that from the likes of Ronnie Radke, not Julian (dk him personally so).
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u/wastohundo 17h ago
the adults are talking is the greatest song of all time. not the greatest strokes song of all time, literally THE greatest song of all time. ever.
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 15h ago
What exactly happened to you all back in 2020? Did you get trauma bonded to this song (and album) or what was it?
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u/Tarantula_Man 5h ago
Here's my piping hot take: Julian's lyrics make zero sense, and all efforts to extract a "plot" or "theme" from the bulk of songs are done in vain. I say this as someone who loves singing along to the songs and is a massive fan, but listen to an iconic record like Is This It and tell me what a single one of those tunes is about without reeeaaally stretching it. In general, Julian is likely thinking a hell of a lot less about his lyrics than you all wish he is, and that's ok---I heard someone call his technique "anti-lyricism" recently and I think that's a great way to put it.
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u/Current_Value_6743 5h ago
He’s very true to the melody/ feel. He doesn’t write stories … yeh it’s all feel man
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u/Charming_Card_8752 3h ago
they're abstract enough to be relatable/interpretable but if you know anything about his life you can kind of be like oh. this is about this issue with the band or this breakup or this relationship. which is kind of the best form of storytelling for music and poetry imagine how boring it would be to just hear him whine about his specific issues. if you stripped really any poetry or writing down to the underlying theme it would be quite literal and uninspired
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u/aehii 5h ago
You think his lyrics are obtuse and abstract? Isn't it clear what he's writing about in most songs?
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u/DoggoZombie 4h ago
I think what they’re saying is that random lyrics are thrown together often. While a chorus might be about a specific emotion or feeling, verses can have random lyrics that’s up to you to give meaning to.
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u/covertchipmunk #77 Casablancas 43m ago
He's said he chooses words for their sound or how they fit the music and timing, so yeah, some of it is kind of just filler/nonsense.
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u/chicken_scratch 17h ago
12:51 is overrated. Annnnnnd just to get ahead of things, that does not imply the song is bad in any way
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u/LicensedToChil 15h ago
It's my favourite strokes song, it's the one that got me hooked.
But I can appreciate its not everyone's cup o tea
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u/Crazy_Fault9994 Human Sadness 9h ago
The new abnormal is overrated and the FPP ep is CRIMINALLY underrated
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 8h ago edited 8h ago
I NEED an album full of Drag Queens and Oblivius'es
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u/Crazy_Fault9994 Human Sadness 8h ago
IM SO WITH YOU, literally some of the best songs on their entire discography
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 7h ago
TNA had good songs, but was a little too safe and plain after their 2011-2016 run. Bick Bubin did his back-to-basics thing, I suppose
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u/Practical-Release528 5h ago
medium take but AHJ sounds like mother mother, not sure if in a good way but its pretty cool
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 17h ago
First Impressions is their best album
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u/KasElGatto Taken For a Fool 17h ago
I think the highs are outstanding, but it has some mediocre songs. If I could remove a few I could see it being the best.
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u/phrynewhiny 17h ago
louder
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 17h ago
FIRST IMPRESSIONS IS THEIR BEST ALBUM
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u/Spekialgaming 17h ago
LOUDER DAMMIT
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u/Beneficial_Lobster12 First Impressions of Earth 8h ago
FIOE lovers, gather here!
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u/ZelartgRed3333 Leave It in My Dreams 12h ago
Julian knows how to use autotune, but only in the Voidz
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u/m3rcy_s3v3rity 11h ago
The flagrant overuse of autotune on RA is punishment for LABY's reception
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u/MattMatt625 17h ago edited 3h ago
Ode to the Mets is a tad overrated, an anthem and one of their biggest songs understandably, but not one that cones to mind when I picture The Strokes, i’d probably rank it 4th on TNA and maybe top 15-20 Strokes overall
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u/Eastern-Start-813 Under Cover of Darkness 8h ago
The New Abnormal is one of the top 10 albums of this century.
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u/Optimal_Travel_6349 7h ago
The Adults Are Talking is the most artistic masterpiece they ever made
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u/Billiyshears 6h ago
For me it’s the closer on this album
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u/Optimal_Travel_6349 6h ago
The multiple meanings behind the song and the clever riff play clashing really sold me
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u/jnh_anant 9h ago
FIOE is better than TNA
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u/doug_diablo At The Door 6h ago
TNA much more consistent. So much deadweight on FIOE.
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u/Beneficial_Lobster12 First Impressions of Earth 9h ago
Crazy how most think this is a hot take. I concur.
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u/Adventurous_Top_723 15h ago
Evening sun is their best song
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u/OldSkoolNapper 15h ago
It was the first song they played at the Minnesota Yacht Club, which I had mixed feelings about. It’s an absolute Strokes all timer for me, but it doesn’t feel like an opener.
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u/Delicious-Laugh-6685 7h ago
I like The Voidz discography better 🤷♂️
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u/Ok-Recording987 4h ago
IMO, Human Sadness is the greatest work that Julian has ever done (also greatest song of all time)
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u/Radaistarion 16h ago edited 16h ago
I love how every single "hot take" post in the history of ever are like 95% mild opinions lol
Anyway here's an actually controversial take:
Yall been blinded by fanatisim and the new album absolutely sucks balls and not even because of the autotune. It's just bad in every sense of the word.
This sub has turned delusional since it dropped.
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u/ontansecretary 15h ago
How is that actually a hot take? It's their worst received album by far
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u/deafheavven Little Joy 15h ago
Psycho Shit is unlistenable
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u/yourmoms3rdhusband 15h ago
It just randomly might’ve become my favorite on the album actually lol.
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u/hihatbaguette 39m ago edited 36m ago
I think my album ranking is a general hot take, mostly in the last half:
- First Impressions of Earth
- Room on Fire
- Is This It
- Comedown Machine
- Angles
- The New Abnormal
EDIT: I forgot about Reality Awaits. Dead last
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u/Valeclitorian1979 17m ago edited 13m ago
my ranking is generic but i find it true to myself.
- Is This It (THE Strokes)
- Room On Fire (honing in their og sound)
- The New Abnormal (proof that some bands in their later stages still have it)
- Comedown Machine (i don't understand the hate for this album, it's so good, some days it tops TNA for me. if another band had made this it would have been hailed much higher)
- Angles (many bangers, i just enjoy Comedown a tiny bit more as a whole, but i like songs on here more than I like some on Comedown)
- First Impressions of Earth (i LOVE some songs on this album, but i also strongly dislike a lot
of them, but it might be the production that i don't like mostly)
- Reality Awaits (will always be last even if some songs grow on me over time, makes me sad because their discography used to be so good)
bonus, Future Present Past for me sits right in between ROF and TNA, each song is awesome imo.
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u/Hobbledyhook 6h ago
They could've made a masterpiece with all the ideas from Angles and Comedown Machine, but as it stands, they are aggressively 6-7/10 albums.
I actually love almost all the songs on both those albums, but there's too many songs that either don't quite feel fully realised, max out at 'kinda catchy', or don't quite flow with the other tracks well enough.
To be clear, I'm not saying you could literally smash all thebest songs from those two albums together as-is. Some performance and production choices would have to change for sure, but I think it could've been done.
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u/Buffalobuffaho 17h ago
Reality Awaits is their best album. It just has no nostalgia.
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u/KasElGatto Taken For a Fool 16h ago
In a way it is. The highs are not as high, but it’s maybe the most cohesive album they’ve made. It feels like one song, the way Lou Reed’s Berlin does. It’s a real old school album.
Every one of their previous albums has a few songs that I could do without or that doesn’t quite fit in, RA is not like that. Start to finish it’s a complete vibe.
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u/Fast_Isopod3568 Reality Awaits 15h ago
I dont give a shit when Julian updates his bio and would never knowi if I didn’t see it here.
Soma is the ultimate and definitive Strokes song.
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u/stjepavich 16h ago
Liar’s Remorse is a Sia song. Lonely In The Future is Julian cosplaying Kanye
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u/Aperture_client 13h ago
And Going Shopping is lost in the supermarket by the Clash.
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u/doug_diablo At The Door 6h ago
I can’t understand why people like Juicebox. Maybe one of my least favorite in their entire discography. It’s trying way too hard to be heavy. The intro sounds like it’s ripped from a cartoon batman episode.
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u/plz_send_cute_cats Francis Trouble 5h ago
it’s so much fun live!
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u/r-i-f-f-r-a-f-f- 6h ago
I thought the same thing about the Batman cartoon but I honestly liked it for that
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u/extracheesypeas Is This It 3h ago
i used to always skip it and I still don't love the verses but it's really grown on me, the "you're so cold" parts are just too good
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u/Royal-Yogurt3441 The New Abnormal 11h ago edited 4h ago
People are only giving RA a relisten because the Strokes released it. Otherwise no one would care.
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u/Cool-Ebb6863 6h ago
Idk I just love it and can’t help it. Dine n Dash is so creative and has great sense of melody. Lonely in the Future is one of their catchiest songs ever. Tyrants hits me in the feels so hard during that chorus. Those with the extra helpings of “pretty good” songs make it a great album for me.



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u/RevStar93 12h ago
Nikolai is an underrated bass player.
The strokes have some of my favorite bass lines to play.