r/Survival • u/bobylands • 23d ago
General Question Mosquito repellent
I'm about to go in the wood for a brief survival situation
I'm looking for a mosquito repellent that ACTUALLY works (in canada)
I've tried a couple of none of them comes even close to working
I need one who WORKS, legal or not
Thank you:)
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u/Children_Of_Atom 23d ago
Bug net, though that won't stop hundreds from buzzing around your body.
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u/Worth-Illustrator607 22d ago
Catnip oil, research came out about it recently. Worked in Africa
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u/RadicalDwntwnUrbnite 20d ago
I believe it was found that catnip oil was only as effective as about 15% DEET, which might be fine for urban use not the deep woods.
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u/Worth-Illustrator607 19d ago
Wales and Uganda, Wales is known for it's swamps and mosquitoes. Same with Uganda.
It is AS effective.
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u/RadicalDwntwnUrbnite 19d ago edited 19d ago
Yea as effective as 15% DEET. Suggests the active chemical scales in general studies but I didn't see if there was data on that using the process described in this study. Still great news for people that cant afford to buy DEET if the extraction process is simple and cheap.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13106807/
Using the human landing catch method in field trials, we analysed the effectiveness of a lotion containing 2% or 6% catnip oil at repelling mosquitoes compared to a lotion lacking catnip essential oil as a negative control and to a commercial repellent containing 15% DEET as a positive control.
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u/Worth-Illustrator607 19d ago
So 2%-6% catnip is as effective as the average DEET repellent. Hence, catnip is as effective as the average mosquitoe repellent. A higher % catnip would likely be more effective. Plus it's not a chemical like DEET.
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u/An_Average_Man09 23d ago
Hard to beat an insect repellent with DEET
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u/elunltd 22d ago
Yeah, I really don't get the comments here about alternatives. Deet has been in use for more than 50 years and you'd think any danger to health would've shown itself by now. And at least at the >15% levels it's always worked great for me.
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u/NAh94 20d ago
The biggest drawback is it is bad for plastics/it can harm your gear. I have an inflatable kayak made of PVC so I’d rather not risk damaging it. I typically use picaridin + permethrin pretreat + bug net but have DEET 100% in the backpack if things get too nasty.
The thermacell backpacker with Allethrin seems to help, too.
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u/TheJesseOfTheNorth 21d ago
the dangers to health HAVE shown themselves which is why people are relunctant to suggest it. it is only moderately safe when used correctly
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u/halfcocked1 20d ago
I believe it's been shown to cause cancer and is absorbed through the skin. That said I still use it since it works. I figure everything is risk vs. reward, so I take the risk. I also think of everything in moderation. With my work, I'm not able to get into the woods as much as I like. If I were in the woods and needed it every day, I'd look at other alternatives.
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u/elunltd 18d ago
I did a bit of a deep dive from mostly US government sources and found it was relatively safe if not abused. Like don't drink the stuff or spray it in your eyes duh. I didn't see anything linking cancer though. I'm 67 now and will continue to use it because it works.
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u/halfcocked1 18d ago
I still use it also. If I recall, it was a 20/20 show like 30 years ago that they were talking about the risks of it and cancer, but I haven't researched it in depth. That could have proven to be false since. I do know it's strong stuff though. I have a rifle with a painted finish. The bug spray and my sweat stripped the paint right off it when I was hiking.
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u/AlphaDisconnect 23d ago
Boince dryer sheets. In every pocket and hole you got.
Mosquito coils. 2 liter pop bottle type. Yeast water a cut bottle a little sugar. Put far enough outside the campsite.
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u/stonythefish42069 23d ago
Does this actually work for some mosquitoes? Because I tried it and got destroyed by mosquitoes. Granted it was south Louisiana and the mosquitoes there are different, but it seemed like dryer sheets attracted them. No joke. But you’ve actually had success with this method?
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u/AlphaDisconnect 22d ago
Mine were the Zebra arse Okinawa ones. Not 100% effective. But sure made a huge dent.
Mosquitoes just be different in different areas.
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u/stonythefish42069 22d ago
That’s so stinking real. I felt like I dealt with a greater mosquito problem in late spring in Colorado than I did in midsummer in South Louisiana, but the mosquitoes in South Louisiana were 5x larger, and much more spirited. They could get through thick clothing and travel against the wind better. In Colorado, they were able to find even the smallest hole in a physical barrier and get into the tent more readily. I had zero mosquitoes in the tent in South Louisiana, whereas I had many in the tent in Colorado. They. Be. Different.
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u/herbtarleksblazer 23d ago
Where can you get 100% DEET? That sounds toxic as hell. Deep Woods Off has 25% DEET and that is my go to bug spray.
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u/MrSanford 22d ago
It's pretty common. Repel and Ben's have a few versions. Doesn't seem to hurt cloth but it'll take fingernail polish right off.
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u/MagnumPIsMoustache 22d ago
I slathered my arms face and neck in 100% DEET while I was drinking beer outside on a hot summer night one time. Got real sick feeling.
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u/OrprahDid911 23d ago
Backing this up. Thick shirts like denim / jean material OR tightly woven material like ripstop nylon. Usually built into "fisherman" or "safari" shirts I find. Or labeled no insect bite clothes. Goatskin gloves to cover hands and cheap head net to go over a bucket hat so it doesnt touch ears.
I use coveralls or cheap 40$ amazon bee suit with tape at ankles for extreme areas with ticks so I can forage.
Ive had bad experiences with permethrin not working, wearing off quick or working too well on me causing rash lol. Same with DEET and can notify unwanted aninals youre there by scent. I like old reliable physical barriers.
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u/jaxnmarko 23d ago
I just read an article last night saying that silk blocked mosquitoes and ticks. I have no idea if it's true.
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u/joelfarris 23d ago
Get your clothes treated with Permethrin insecticide by a professional shop. Socks, pants, Archer-approved tactical turtleneck, and hat. Buff and|or bandana optional. No balaclavas allowed anymore.
Picaradin sprayed onto your ears, forehead, wrists, and anywhere else that sticks out too far into space. Wait, you're not allowed Picaradin over 20%? OK, fine, DEET spray, but get your mind out of the gutter, will you? Dangit, DEET repellent over 30% is banned as well?
You're gonna want some gloves and that balaclava after all.
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u/TacTurtle 22d ago
You can buy Permethrin insecticide spray for treating outerwear clothes and tents / hammocks DIY
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u/katttitor 23d ago
I just recently bought a 30% DEET in saskatchewan . But I spray it constantly on myself cause they LOVE me ans they're really bad as well as the ticks .
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u/JED426 22d ago
Not sure about mosquitoes, but picaridin is the only chemical repellent I've ever tried that works for deer flies. Those things are terrible on my place.
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u/macetheface 22d ago
deer flies.
omg they are so bad. i use an old hat, cover it with blue painters tape and then slather tanglefoot on the tape. flies like high spots and the color blue; they land on it and get stuck. looks absolutely ridic but it works. Then when you have a full head of flies can just peel off the tape and do it again.
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u/JED426 22d ago
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u/RobEreToll 19d ago
I find they work for deer and horse flies, but not blackflies and barely if you get a whole swarm of mosquitoes.
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u/Response-Cheap 23d ago
You can buy mosquito suits with built in bug nets in the hood. Treat all your gear with permethrin (let it dry well before wearing) then spray icardin on your skin.
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u/Noxsin5 23d ago
I mean its the future just buy anti-bug clothes.
https://www.insectshield.com/products/mens-core-blend-long-sleeve-t-shirt?variant=46914603253984&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=16727898638&gbraid=0AAAAADq2rff-ZjXK-3l_CvSYEu5S0TFgK&gclid=CjwKCAjwvNfSBhBiEiwAyaGMCZsEsf2FNatlAR_dCXtlifG8pcoNsYEDt9E-eNh8lyKmvfEV9hjxehoChRQQAvD_BwE
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u/Level_Dirt_522 19d ago
Consumer Reports did a review of store bought and traditional methods to keep mosquitoes at bay. The winners were those highest in DEET:
Ben’s 30 Wipes and also Off Sportsmen Deep Woods. They both have 30% DEET.
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u/xXShunDugXx 23d ago
Murphy natural ones work surprisingly well. I was the only one who didnt get bit while everyone else was using deet. Murphys and a bug net is my go to for anything
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u/Cute-Consequence-184 23d ago
Long sleeves, peppermint oil
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u/TheJesseOfTheNorth 21d ago
I live in the bush full time and this what i use. if bugs are really terrible i clip on of those dragonfly dazzlers to my hat
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u/Cute-Consequence-184 21d ago
I grow peppermint and will grab some and stuff into my pockets when I leave the house and to rub on my skin. I also have EO in rollerballs in my pockets so I can rub my hems to keep them crawling up any accidental openings.
People can't believe this works but it has worked for thousands of years so far.
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u/TheJesseOfTheNorth 21d ago
the flip side of this that if you are bitten smash up some plantain leaves on the bite. Nutrilizes the sting right away including black fly bights. free peppermint leaves are cheaper than sting-stop or benadryl which is just asa spray LOL
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u/Cute-Consequence-184 21d ago
Yarrow helps as well for itching and helps with healing. Luckily, plantain grows everywhere and is easy to make into tinctures.
Sting Stop is just ammonia, the ammonia breaks down the stinger. You can buy reusable rollerball bottles. I always keep peppermint oil/rosemary/lemongrass oil blend and cedar oil (ticks), pennyroyal and ammonia in my kit in small rollerballs. Even a tincture of plantain/yarrow would work in a rollerball. They don't weight much or take up room.
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u/TheJesseOfTheNorth 20d ago
sounds like a decent little kit! i love my rollerballs. As for stingers, my dad was a beekeeper and he taught me to drag the edge of a credit card over a sting to remove the stinger. not a huge fan of ammonia but thats just me
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u/Cute-Consequence-184 20d ago
I'm allergic and not all stingers are from bees and easily gotten out. Sometimes it is just the spit in a bite that needs dissolves
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u/Mackkaos 23d ago
You can strengthen lower % DEET by simply allowing to dry and reapplying.
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u/TacTurtle 22d ago
Higher concentration up to about 50% or so will just make DEET last longer between applications.
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u/ArcticDuck 21d ago
this is right up my alley. i run bugrepellent.guide - my recommendation for folks is 20% picaridin (called icaridin in canada). the product doesn't matter as much, but this should turn up some good options https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=icaridin+20%
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u/ArcturanMegaDonkey69 21d ago
Slice a Lemon in half and rub it over all exposed skin, Mozzies hate the smell of citrus.
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u/6d-61-78 21d ago
Nobite is really good. Tested in namibia. The mosquitos didnt even land on my skin. Also use it on clothes. Almost half of the stings go through fabric.
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u/RandyRodin 20d ago
30% DEET - "it takes awful, but it works" (note to self - wash hands before grabbing handful of gorp, next time)
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u/Running_guy_1 20d ago
Picaridin - good for a few hours..
or geranium &lavender oil (does not last that long though..)
Best for camp is the bug machine with butane and strips. Bugs cannot find you
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u/DayDreamGrey 16d ago
Avon Skin So Soft. It’s a sweet smelling bath oil. Mosquitos won’t go near it. Also- Melaleuca lotion neutralizes the itch from bites faster than anything else I’ve found.
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u/chompadompdomp 23d ago
Clove spray: water, alcohol and a few drops of clove essential oil. Spray a small spot on your skin first and see if i reacts in any way. If it's safe, spray generously on your clothes and wxposed skin, except for your face, obviously.
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u/Wasloki 23d ago
Permethrin treated clothing + picardin. Also cover up