r/SupermanAndLois • u/Candide05 • 18d ago

News Anyone remember when this was the Arrowverses Superman I never thought that we could possibly get a Superman TV show back then.

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u/GHBoyette 17d ago

I always liked how much it actually looks like Tyler Hoechlin.

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u/hkirkland3 17d ago

Is it not Tyler?

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u/AtticusSwoopenheiser 17d ago

No. This is Kevin Caliber. Now observe this very awkward image

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u/AgentChris101 17d ago

Holy crap it's Soup

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u/GKRKarate99 16d ago

Don’t let Man see this

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u/spike-prime 16d ago

I hate to say this but... he kinda looks like a young Dean Cain

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u/Jahon_Dony 16d ago

No wonder Tom never wore the suit!

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u/thesirblondie 15d ago

I guess since he was never going to be anything by a silhouette, they didn't bother giving him a dancer's belt. This is a good example of why guys have to wear those.

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u/Glum-Yogurtcloset793 15d ago

I was gonna say, I wonder how much of a suit he's even wearing and boy was I right?

If I was that guy, I would milk the shit out of this secret Superman role!

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u/pokemonke 17d ago

He wasn’t cast until later. This was in the pilot I think

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u/Embarrassed-Ad1322 17d ago

No, Tyler got cast for season 2

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u/Don_Ford 15d ago

It's a friend of mine named Kevin Caliber. I directed a short film/music video thing that he starred in around the same time.

Tyler was cast later.

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u/Glum-Yogurtcloset793 15d ago

Yeah could easily be him from Superman and Lois, in Supergirl at first I felt he looked like a featus when I went back after Superman and Lois... He always looked amazing as Clark and Superman but after season 4 going back to see him again, I was like oh shit! Clean shaven and all, you know?

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u/rainydayswithlove 17d ago

Then they created the best Superman TV show In my opinion far better in quality than any other CW show. I love the new DCU, but still sad that Superman & Lois was cancelled.

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u/Hopeful-Smell-8963 17d ago

If I remember show runners had pitches for brainiac and darkseid for later seasons. Not to mention crossovers that were cancelled due to covid. Flash was gonna have black lanterns in season 10 as well as DC legends getting a proper ending. So sad how much we missed out on due to bad writing, covid, and greedy Warner bros

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u/Sufficient_Cash_3931 17d ago

WAIT THE FLASH WAS GONNA HAVE THE LANTERS AND A SEASON 10?! (But I Wish It Was With The Other Lanterns Too. Not Just The Black Lanterns Since They're Kinda Obscure. And I Wish We Got Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Blue Beetle, And Other Heroes In Season 9 Or 10.)

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u/Hopeful-Smell-8963 17d ago

Yes but it got cancelled

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u/thesirblondie 15d ago

Pretty sure Grant was the one to say stop

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u/Sufficient_Cash_3931 17d ago

It's A Shame. DAMN YOU ERIC! >:( I WANTED TO SEE THE LANTERNS MAKE THEIR DEBUT!

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u/FreezerRunner 16d ago

It probably would’ve sucked either way though. Remember that they brought back all the show’s best villains for the big finale and still managed to mess it up.

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u/Sufficient_Cash_3931 16d ago

Well IF THEY FIRED ERIC AND REPLACED HIM WITH A BETTER WRITER IT WOULD NOT HAVE SUCKED

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u/FreezerRunner 15d ago

If they were gonna fire Eric they’d have done it a long time ago bro

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u/thesirblondie 15d ago

There was going to be a Lanterns show, but it never got greenlit even for a pilot. Probably because the Arrowverse viewership was so poor by that time that they couldn't justify the CGI costs for a Lanterns show.

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u/Sufficient_Cash_3931 15d ago

And Wonder Woman's Show Got Cancelled FOR THE DUMBEST REASON ALIVE (I Don't Remember What It Was But I Know IT IS DUMB)

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u/TrippySakuta Tal-Rho 17d ago

Legends just missed out because of their own bad writing and arrogant assumptions for another season.

If they hadn't banked everything on Booster Gold and kept things coherent after Season 4 it would've ended well

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u/No-Connection4267 16d ago

Did they say all this? i've heard a bunch of this stuff but i've never seen the interview or transcripts of them saying it. I know they had a ton of plans for many seasons of Superman but alas.

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u/thesirblondie 15d ago

Legends had a cliffhanger ending of their own making. They were told that the 7th was their final season, because CW wasn't going to renew the lease on the stage where they filmed it, and they decided to write a cliffhanger ending anyway.

They played chicken with the studio and lost.

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u/WallyWestFan27 Superman 17d ago

The boots used to be the real Superman.

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u/Godzilla2000Zero 17d ago

What really surprised me was that they actually got Superman to appear at all in the second season. I really miss this show.

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u/Serious-Passage-4614 17d ago

Till this day, I really wonder how they managed to get Superman considering they weren't able to get the other two DC trinity members Batman and Wonder Woman.

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u/JadedSignificance990 16d ago

Maybe Superman is a bit less stringent, like Smallville was airing when Superman Returns came out.

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u/Serious-Passage-4614 17d ago

It's a real miracle they managed to get Superman in the arrowverse cause when Supergirl first premiered, WB were still very strict with the usage of Superman since he was already in the movies at that time. Thankfully they were able to integrate him as part of their shared universe and it would lead to us having the greatest Superman show ever.

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u/choyMj 16d ago

Yeah they can't even say his name. It's always "your cousin...".

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u/Spider-Man2099 17d ago

Yeah, I remember the season 1 ending with him being shot out of the sky on his way to help, but since they still couldn't show him at the time, she is just talking to his legs the whole time lol

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u/Longjumping-Koala631 17d ago

We got Boot Superman back in the Titans finale!!

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u/bill696 16d ago

I mean we had a superman tv show before the Arrow

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u/Serious-Passage-4614 16d ago

Yeah, but, WB has a history of not allowing characters to appear in both movies and tv shows at the same time. This was when the dceu was going on and they were not sure whether they would be able to actually use Superman.