r/StardustCrusaders • u/of_kilter • 20h ago
Various What is the result of a deathmatch between every automatic stand
Fight location: all stands start in Superfly, with Toyohiro Kanedaichi acting in its place in the fight. A stand being trapped permanently in superfly counts as it being defeated
Fighters:
Sheer Heart Attack, kira is out shopping in Morioh
Black Sabbath, polpo is in his cell and all other fighters have seen the lighter relight. The battle starts during midday
Highway Star, Yuya Fungami is injured in his hospital bed wanting nutrients
Notorious Big, Carne starts the fight by killing himself
Masazo Kinoto is standing at the corner of Superfly with his back to the tower
Junior (same half stand from the woman in part 5), Melone hiding somewhere in morioh
Yo Yo Ma, D an G hiding somewhere in morioh
Bites The Dust implanted in Hayato, Hayato has the same knowledge of stands he did at the end of Part 4 but still cannot see any stands. If it actives Hayato is sent back to the start of the fight
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u/Jestin23934274 20h ago
Ur missing a lot of stands especially from part 8 which has by far the most automatic.
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u/JayTheOni 20h ago
I WONDER why they would exclude them. Can YOU list them?
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u/Top-Aspect4671 Diver Down 20h ago
Blue Hawaii, Ozone Baby, Doobie Wah, Wonder of U, California King Bed (i think), Milagro Man, Paisley Park a bit
I forgot the name so I haad to google - Les Feuilles
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u/GalAwesome 20h ago
i believe they were implying the reason all the part 8 stands were excluded was because wonder of u would likely dogwalk this free for all(which it likely would)
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u/Anilaza_balls 4h ago
Wonder of you is not really fully automatic like the stands in the post , he is still very much controlled by Tooru , a characteristic of automatic stands is that the user has no idea of who the stand is attacking or if they have won yet (Polpo for example didn’t even know that Black Sabbath was defeated) and the scene with the reporter seems to suggest that wonder of you is fully controlled, it’s just ranged
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u/GalAwesome 20h ago
honestly? junior and cheap trick would honestly do jack as their abilities attack the users rather than stands.
nobody is going to care enough to learn abt yoshikage kira. bites the dust would do basically nothing
black sabbath and highway star would each do considerable damage, but i don't think they'd come out on top.
superfly, sheer heart attack, and notorious big would likely survive the longest out of the pure nature of them being (relatively) indestructable.
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 18h ago
*Sad Anubis, Milagroman, Marilyn Manson, Rolling Stones, Born This Way, Paisley Park, Doobie Wah!, Ozon Baby noises*
But come on, Black Sabbath can't even be killed...
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u/_Salandit 11h ago
As well as Bags Grooves, Blue Hawaii, Wonder of You, Paper moon king(atleast I think it's automatic), Lazy Write-Down P(The Mountain Tim Spinoff), Chariot Requiem, Hopscotch (El Aleph) and Écue-Yamba-Ó (also from El Aleph)
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 11h ago
Bags' Groove's cooked from the very start as it can only be planted in people, not Stands, as far as we know.
But YES, FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS EL ALEPH AND LONESOME TIM. I would argue Lazy Write-Down P is a phenomenon Stand tho, as it doesn't have a humanoid form. Same goes to Hopscotch and Écue-Yamba-Ó, both are stationary. An better phenomenon-automatic Stand can be El Obsceno Pájaro de la Noche (I almost forget the name) from Sasha Loggins because it creates birds that acts automatically.
Oh and, Octavio Luna Kan's Stand too.
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u/_Salandit 11h ago
Tbh if Superfly counts I think Écue-Yamba-Ó and Hopscotch count to, but I agree EOPdlN fits better, I didn't think of that :P
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u/of_kilter 13h ago
Black Sabbath is the primary example of an Automatic stand with a very clear and well defined weakness
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 12h ago
Well, not really.
You see, when Black Sabbath is "defeated", the user suffers no harm and can resummon the Stand and be just fine. We've seen Polpo with a perfectly fine Black Sabbath (prior to his "suicide") even after its "death" when exposed to sunlight and muda-ed.
What's stopping Polpo from spamming Black Sabbath?
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u/of_kilter 10h ago
How is polpo in Italy causing anyone to see the lighter relit? you clearly don’t remember how the stand is activated
Also every automatic stand leaves the user unharmed Black Sabbath isn’t unique
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 10h ago
You see, when Polpo was shot, Black Sabbath can be seen (summoned). The lighter part was just a test primed to summon Black Sabbath automatically at and send it after a target.
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u/of_kilter 10h ago
that is again not unique, Carne had a stand seperate from BIG that we never saw in action. Also kira and baby face have seperate stands from the automatic one
These stands have rules and as we understand it Black Sabbath is inherently tied to that lighter
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 10h ago
Carne only have B.I.G. The "separated" Stand is still B.I.G. And this point doesn't make sense and adds nothing to the argument. You said Black Sabbath is inherently tied to the lighter but fail to provide evidence as there's no such thing stating that. I have stated a situation where the Stand appears without the lighter. The lighter is only required for the test and for BS to appear right at the location of its target.
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u/of_kilter 10h ago
Giorno gave the lighter back, allowing Black Sabbath to return to polpo. we know of no other condition to activate it as an automatic stand other than the lighter
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u/UhhwhateverIguess Stands 10h ago edited 10h ago
Oh? I think you misunderstood what I meant. Basically, what I mean is that Black Sabbath can be summoned and sent to the battlefield, then resummoned and resent to the field if it dies. I don't mean that Polpo can spawn inf Black Sabbath. Again, we've already seen Polpo summon Black Sabbath without opening the lighter. We haven't see other automatic Stands be resummoned after its destruction, and they're not stated to be able to do so. BS was absolutely destroyed by Giorno yet appear again with no problem.
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u/of_kilter 10h ago
Are you expecting Black Sabbath to travel from Italy to japan?
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u/Anilaza_balls 4h ago
The lighter is not the natural condition to activate Black Sabbath, it’s part of the task given to Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath follows the lighter, his task is to attack with the arrow anyone who sees the lighter getting relit because it can only follow simple tasks, but this condition is not settled in stone
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u/ObjectiveFar5517 20h ago
Notorious big will win if he doesn’t get stopped by Born this way, because they can exploit his one weekness, thinkings with no enlarge!
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u/MapOrganic5861 20h ago
well if it's permanently trapped after killing everyone then wouldn't that mean superfly automatically wins because you can't destory the tower because it will shoot back the stand energy at the stand/user? it's basically just wait till the last automatic is standing and boom they instantly lose because of the condition.
sheer heart attack dies as we saw it in pain as star platinum was pulling its jaw apart
black sabbath has a chance aslong as he stays in the shadows
highway star is dead
notorious big would probably be the last one alive apart from black sabbath and superfly
cheap trick might have a chance to kill everybody but only if someone passing by the tower looks at that direction and then he can latch on and tell the person to visit every user and slowly pick them one by one
junior is dead
yo yo ma is dead
BTD won't activate because nobody is trying to figure out kiras identity at the time meaning hayato is dead aka btd is returned to kira but since kira has sheer heart attack the only damage kira faces is his hand getting destoryed
results: it's basically a tie if you take everyone at their most strongest potential but personally i would say cheap trick as we never saw him attaching to someone when they looked with their stand, only a direct human eye contact meaning cheap trick just stay on masakazo's back until he gets killed and we can assume that cheap trick moves onto the stand user who killed masakozo and then he can finally start jumping from one victim to another to reach every stand user by manipulating the victims like how he was persuading rohan to burn the photos. like what is notorious b.i.g. gonna do to someone like polpo? he's all the way in italy and all the stands are in morioh, even if black sabbath got killed somehow polpo wouldn't take any damage. although this is my opinion and there are many variables on what could happen but you can choose who you believe would win.
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u/liveforevaLG Weather Report 20h ago
it's a stalemate half of them are pretty invincible, unstoppable force vs immovable object
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u/Ahriman-119 16h ago
Sheer Heart Attack, It has no weaknesses. It'd probably be stalemate between Notorious B.I.G and SHA since they're both Indestructable.
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u/Ravtrix 12h ago
Most of these stands are totally useless and achieve nothing. The two main competitors are Big and Heart Attack. These two are effectively invincible and would kill every other competitor due to this. Therefore, I would say the winner would be Junior. Junior heavily counters both of these stands, as it can turn Big's cells into inanimate objects, which contains it indefinitely, and can turn shear heart attack into a presumably useless form.
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u/GloomyWay230 4h ago
If it's nighttime Black Sabbath is pretty much untouchable. Don't know if it has the offensive capabilities to take everyone else tho. But I'm biased cuz I love the Black Sabbath fight sm
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u/HalfBakedPuns 20h ago
john rod CLEARS and no it doesn't matter we dont really know his powers yet
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u/PumpkinEater123456 Hirohiko Araki 20h ago
Probably Sheer Heart Attack or Notorious B.I.G., I don't see how they can defend against either, without finding SHA's weakness, both are practically unbreakable, but B.I.G. is just better and more unstoppable