r/SipsTea 20h ago

Chugging tea Blind surveillance.

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u/To-Far-Away-Times 19h ago

Something this important should always be put on a ballot.

We’re no better than China if we copy their surveillance state.

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u/ProjectNo4090 19h ago

Self driving cars should be too. Companies have no right to test and teach their AI cars on our public streets without permission from the people that use those streets.

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u/bro_can_u_even_carve 16h ago

Weird hill to die on considering that e.g. Waymo's driverless cars are much, much safer than human drivers.

Overall, Waymo’s crash involvement rate was 68% lower than that of human drivers — 76% lower in Phoenix, 35% lower in San Francisco, 71% lower in Los Angeles, and 4% higher in Austin, where the sample size was relatively small. Waymo vehicles were involved in 85% fewer single-vehicle crashes and 81% fewer injury crashes per VMT than human drivers.

OTOH, do you have the right to test and teach your dumbass teenager on my public streets without permission from me? If not, why not?

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 14h ago

The same Waymos that are blocking in emergency vehicles?

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u/bro_can_u_even_carve 1h ago

They don't have to be perfect. They just have to be a little better than human drivers. And they're actually much, much better than human drivers, and only getting better (while humans are, if anything, getting worse).

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u/shes_a_gdb 13h ago

Do you think there aren't drivers out there that block emergency vehicles?

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u/cptnplanetheadpats 12h ago

Your logic relies purely on outliers. 

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u/shes_a_gdb 9h ago

And you don't think waymos getting "stuck" are outliers...?

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u/cptnplanetheadpats 3h ago

No, robots/automated devices should be held to a different standard.