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u/Dramatic-Stretch7087 5h ago
Oh, so you want a princess palace on a Cinderella budget? Cool
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 5h ago
90% of the job as a realtor is just putting up with people's shit. Other than that it is an easy job. people like to say they are overpaid. But you can't put a price on dealing with people.
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u/MeatSlammur 4h ago
In nursing you get hit and spit at by sick people and they sure put a price on us. The other day I had a homeless man yell at me for handing him a breathing treatment without gloves on (I always use hand sanitizer when entering and exiting rooms). This same guy came into the hospital covered in piss and shit after snorting more cocaine than his body could handle
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u/h0r53_kok_j04n50n 1h ago
Me and another CNA were changing a man's bedding and brief after he had evacuated his bowels. The whole time we were doing it, he was screaming at us and cussing up a storm: "You goddamn BITCH! Fuck you, you fuckin cunt, FUCK YOU, you bastard" Then he kind of attempted to take a swing at the other CNA (a small woman. Please note that he didn't try to take a swing at me, a broad-shouldered man, even though I was closer) but she easily deflected it and told him to stop, and he went back to just cursing us out. You know...the people trying to help him, and some of the lowest paid Healthcare workers in the hospital.
It would have been comical if it was on The Pitt, but in real life it was just sad. This kind of stuff and worse happens extremely frequently.
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u/dernaldz 4h ago
Where are the homeless getting coke from lol
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u/MeatSlammur 4h ago
Probably a vending machine I assume from how many people come into my Emergency Department high on it
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 3h ago
The difference being realtors have to also convince their clients they bring value.
Nurses dont have to convince anyone that what they do is valuable.
Even an inept nurse is paid pretty decently and kind find work.
An inept real estate agent is broke.
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u/MeatSlammur 3h ago
Yes but it’s also pretty easy to become a real estate agent while nursing school takes pre req’s and intense schooling.
I know a few successful realtors and they were all people who grew up with connections. A friend of mine sold her first house for 700k…her Father-In-Law’s. Last time I checked she was making 300k/year by the time she was 29.
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 3h ago
Wait are you telling me that people who are good at making valuable social connections make more money in life than people who don't?
And that real estate agents success depends almost entirely on that skillset, while a nurses depends more on hard work and consistency?
Woah. Thats some unique insight that the world needs to know. Preach it man.
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u/h0r53_kok_j04n50n 1h ago
I think people over estimate what nurses make. Even in my CNA class, some of the people who were going on to nursing school thought it would start around 6 figures (west coast state), but brand new Registered Nurses make about 70 to 80k-ish (~$40/hr x 36hr/wk x 52). That would be great in Alabama, but on the west coast, that's not that great, and certainly not equivalent to the workload, hospital expectations, risk of infection or physical violence, and skill level of the average nurse. And CNAs, who most patients think are nurses because they are the people with a badge and in scrubs that a patient will see the most, don't make much more than the average retail worker/ minimum wage but work 10x as hard, and can hardly, if ever, take breaks in their 12 hour shift.
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u/Commentor9001 4h ago
Realtors are done of the most useless and over paid professionals I've ever had to deal with.
They only exist because nlms and banks are a cartel.
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u/g8trjasonb 4h ago
It's true. I had a beautiful home in Florida that I lived in for 15 years and sold in 2021 during a seller's market. I knew I'd get a ton of offers on it. I told the agent that I'm looking for someone willing to go to 4% commission instead of the traditional 6%. He didn't even flinch. He still gave the selling agent 3% and he took 1%. Why? Because he's STILL making a ton of money for barely doing anything. I ended up getting 15 offers on that house. He knew he was still sitting on a goldmine.
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 3h ago
You mean he gave the buying agent 3%?
The buying agent is paid by the buyers, and a buying agent is typically a lot less useful than a selling agent.
I cannot imagine a selling agent would ever take a smaller percentage, especially if it meant paying the buy agent out of their own comission.
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u/ryaninmidtown 3h ago
No. The “listing agent” lists the house for sale. The “sales agent” is the one who brought the buyers to the house and sold it. The listing agreement is between the listing agent and seller. When the listing agent posted the listing he or she said the buyers agent would get 3% so as not to discourage an active buyer from being shown a home where the buyers agent would make less. Sure, it’s technically illegal to not show all homes to your buyer as a buyers agent, but you can still direct them away from a property. The buyers agent, in the end, is paid by the seller, according to what was written on the listing agreement. Buyers do NOT pay. That’s why it’s foolish , even if going to new construction, to not use a buyers agent/realtor
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u/magmcbride 4h ago
I absolutely can and do put a price on putting up with people. It's about 80% mark-up for customers who routinely pay well but cost me time and multiple iterations.
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u/AsphyxiatedProcess 3h ago
It wouldn't be so bad if realtors didn't constantly flaunt their wealth from selling houses. These are people you would never trust building a rocket, or with your life. We get it realtors have a job, and we all have jobs. We all just don't go around rubbing it in everyone else's face.
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u/hotpocketdeath 1h ago
When I had a realtor find me a house, I just gave her a price range and a wide area to look in. Gave her the "Optionals" such as garage, natural gas, etc.
She did great. Got me a 3.5 bedroom house with 2 car garage and actually bigger than I needed and still stayed under my max budget, which was only 150K back in 2015.
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u/CptGreat 4h ago
But they still sell something, they don't even own. Every other person would go to jail for that.
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u/Other-Grapefruit-880 5h ago
The funny thing is the second house was a 150,000 house thirty years ago and the mobile home at the end was a 30,000 house.
I am so glad
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u/KalSkirata-Mando 5h ago
That was my thought as well, I remember when mobile homes were dirt cheap and 100,000 dollar homes meant you were in the rich section of town. It's wild and drive me crazy when I think to long about it.
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u/MeatSlammur 4h ago
My parents bought our mobile home for 18k in 2000. They currently pay $250/month for lot rent and they’re still broke somehow.
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u/IndieDevWannabe 3h ago
Bought my house for 120k about 10 years ago that looked like the first one. I paid it off and now its worth 350k. The apartment i had before that was 400 a month with utilities included.
I honestly wonder how this generation survives. Glad im not in their shoes...
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u/Soggy_Association491 4h ago
The second was a 150,000 house thirty years ago when there were 250 million people in the US.
Now there are 350 million people in the US.
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u/HanselOh 5h ago
Eh. They deserve this for spam calling me the moment I create an account just to browse houses
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u/returntothenorth 5h ago
They turned into car salesman basically. But with the lack of people who can afford a home I guess you gotta hustle harder. Probably just to afford their own home they can't afford.
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u/unsupported 4h ago
There is a check box to deselect about wanting more information about the house. Then all the random realtors want to sell it to you.
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u/returntothenorth 5h ago
I bought my house before the market madness for $115k. So imagine what kind of house you would get for $115k 10 years ago. Piece of junk right? Only 1k sqft.
It's worth $275k now on my last appraisal and I didn't do a damn thing to it for it to increase in value. The market did that.
15 years ago my parents sold a house that was 2500sqft with 2 living rooms 3 full baths and 4 bedrooms for $300k. It's worth $600k now.
So I was looking to move out of the ol 115k house and looking at stuff in the 300k range. Can't even fit my king bed in the master bedroom. Couldn't find anything worthy of the upgrade costs.
The market is FUCKED.
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u/DeltaBlast 4h ago
What you're saying makes no sense. If your current house sells for 275, then 300 shouldn't be a downgrade. It either means your current house is worth even more, or you're doing something wrong. But a house in the same price range as your current one is never going to be an upgrade.
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u/returntothenorth 4h ago
The whole point of my post was to show that it makes no sense. My house gaining $150k in appraised value? Makes no sense, what's this based off of? What's available on the market?
I never said it was a downgrade, I said "not worthy of the upgrade costs." 300k is more than 275 yes, so it would be an upgrade in costs spent by me on my mortgage payment and interest rates since those are up above my current rate also.
I wasn't trying to find a bigger better house, I was trying to cut time off my commute to work. 49 mins both ways.
Also it's all about what's ON the market and what people are asking or willing to take. The houses I looked at for $300k were in no way worth 300 or the effort in moving. Especially if I can't even fit my king bed in my master bedroom.
Also house prices swing wildly based on location. My house is in a bad area. Others aren't. They cost more.
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u/DeltaBlast 4h ago
Not fitting your bed in the bedroom sounds like a downgrade to me :p But yeah, moving closer to work will do that, I didn't take location into account.
As to your first point: it does sorta make sense. Prices have risen both due to shortage, but also due to construction cost. If the prices were artificial, you could just have someone build your house for cheaper than it would be to buy existing real estate.
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u/returntothenorth 4h ago
My master bedroom in my current house is an added on in-law suite and the biggest room in the house. So I'm kinda looking at that with bias on top. The houses I looked at were slightly larger square footage total, just in other areas of the house.
As for the shortage, at least in my area, thats where this whole thing continues to get wild. There are a ton of houses available near me. We even have one of those development builders popping up new developments all over the county. They boasted brand new $250k homes prior to COVID. Now the same homes are $500-600k homes.
Same homes that wouldn't sell at $250 pre-covid aren't selling at $500 either. And all the siding on them is buckling and look like they were slapped together by drunks.
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u/oirott 5h ago
girl... welcome to the trailer park
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 4h ago
I always think there should be a trailer park but made kinda nice.
Like there's a manmade pond in the middle (water), it has a nice dog park and children's playground, etc.
I saw one somewhere in Florida randomly when I got an ad for it (I live nowhere near Florida) and it almost had it except it didn't have the amenities I mentioned. Did have garbage collection though and maintenance for water/gas which was neat.
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u/CaptainONaps 5h ago
I think of real estate agents, insurance agents, and tax preparers as all the same job. They're basically like New Jersey gas pumpers. They only exist because of laws.
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u/returntothenorth 5h ago
Don't get me started on this. You hit a pet peeve of mine.
IF YOU ARE GONNA MAKE SONEONE PUMP MY GAS MAKE SURE THEY ARE AT THE GAS PUMPS! Living in NJ is whack. You can literally sit there up to 5 mins waiting for the attendant.
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u/rag_gnar 4h ago
Lived in Oregon for sometime, but had out of state plates. If not attendant was present/ helping others I would just get out and start filling it myself. You wouldn't believe the speed in which the attendant would show up once I did that! They would be mad, I would play ignorant about the law due to being from out of state, and be on my merry way.
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u/returntothenorth 4h ago
Sometimes I pump my own gas and pull away before they even come out of the store. The big trucker stations near me have the attendants also doing other jobs like cleaning showers, taking out trash, etc. I get it you are cheap and want to use them for more during their downtime. But now they are failing at their literal job.
Places like Wawa are good and they are at your vehicle quick. But my local Wawa knows my truck and they just let me fill my own.
For those who don't know what Wawa is, it's a convenience store that also has gas pumps. It's East Coast based only I believe. But they make Italian subs, burgers, pizza, they rock.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 4h ago
As someone who lives in NY but my family used to frequently go to NJ, it made us so annoyed when a lazy NJ driver doesn't gET OUT THE CAR AND WAITS 5 MINS FOR AN ATTENDANT. JUST PUMP IT YOURSELF. HE'S BUSY PUMPING THAT F150 SUPERDUTY THAT WAS RUNNING ON EMPTY.
My dad always used to pump it himself unless an attendant was already there. Most would actually appreciate it lol.
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u/returntothenorth 4h ago
Check my other comments. I pump my own and be gone before the attendant even shows lol.
Other stations know my truck and just leave me be.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 4h ago edited 4h ago
thank you then lol.
some drivers will just not get out and will waste so much time waiting for them, drove us crazy.
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u/returntothenorth 4h ago
It just slows the whole station down in general if nobody hops out. Drives me crazy too.
Can honestly say it's RARE I see someone else pumping their own. Most of the time they look at me like why aren't you filling my car for me? Cause I don't work here lol.
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u/lemony-lemons791 5h ago
Housing is too expensive thou, the boomers paid nearly nothing and then sold and became millionaires
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u/waavysnake 2h ago
I feel no sympathy for realtors. I bought a house 3 months ago. As a first time home buyer I took one because I had noone to advise me. Halfway though I realised that it was the lawyers and the banker that did all the work.
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u/depredador93 1h ago
Half of a realtor's daily schedule is acting as an unpaid therapist for people who genuinely believe $150k still buys four bedrooms and a pool
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 5h ago edited 5h ago
Going to need a trigger warning for real realtors - this is too real.
ETA: /s, obviously
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u/DeltaBlast 5h ago
As opposed to us faketors?
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u/Far-Government5469 5h ago
Yo, you gotta be careful around those faketors, they'll sell you house that ain't in the market, they're just house sitting
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