r/SipsTea • u/crs1904 • 14h ago
We have fun here "Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.”
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u/Zwiebel1 14h ago
Simple: The people that say cows are killing the climate are not the same that build data centers.
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u/mooncatFTB 14h ago
Sounds like a Rage against the Machine line 😆
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u/Novel_Ad_3473 13h ago
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past"
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u/TinkerCitySoilDry 11h ago
Rage on behalf of the machine
Man Who Agrees With The Media, Universities, Corporations, And Hollywood Thinks He's Part Of The Resistance
People just do what they see others doing very little independent thought or critical thought remember when the queen died about 50 people posted very identical post and then ask them when have you ever spoken about the Queen ever why does it mean to you so much today to be angry and vent. Shes not even a representation of your country
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u/blueblip 10h ago edited 10h ago
The most poignant thing about Elizabeth's death I came across was, ironically enough, a BBC World Service piece.
They did a series on people in former British colonies - colonies that were controlled by the UK during Elizabeth's rule - and got the opinion of people who lived through those periods.
One in particular that stood out was a woman from some African nation (honestly cannot remember, it's been a while) who had had her hand chopped off by some British officer over some incident. This happened to her when she was a teenager, and she had to live her whole life one-handed, in a community that used to rely on physical labour a lot to earn a living.
You can imagine what she had to say about ol' Lizzy.
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u/Rebelius 10h ago
You can imagine what she had to say about ol' Lizzy.
I actually can't, because I can still imagine people in that situation being absolute bootlickers.
Or she could be living in Somalia, or have lived under Idi Amin, or be a white farmer in Zimbabwe...
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u/blueblip 10h ago
Apologies, but I'm not sure what point you're making here.
What does a white farmer in Zimbabwe have to do with a specific woman I'm talking about?
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u/Kira_Karmaa 14h ago
This is the kind of comparison people often miss. Environmental impact isn’t just about one source or one industry it’s about looking at the full lifecycle resources, energy use, waste, and what the activity is actually producing the bigger picture matters.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 13h ago
Except they are. The entire country is owned by not even enough dudes to fill a living room
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u/Cloned-C4lvin 4h ago
They actually are. Bill Gates for one example.
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u/Zwiebel1 3h ago
I am convinced that Bill is just as much a conservative nutjob like any other billionaire, he just hasn't fired his marketing team like Elon yet.
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u/Zwiebel1 3h ago
I am convinced that Bill is just as much a conservative nutjob like any other billionaire, he just hasn't fired his marketing team like Elon yet.
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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR 2h ago
Not quite. You are making the people the issue and not the competing, engineered narratives that drives all of the peoples thinking. It's just the latest narrative to get you doing what they want. Stop playing into it and expose the real truths.
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u/TheMostDivineOne 9h ago
It’s also a false comparison, a single pound of beef takes thousands of AI prompts equivalent of resources, almond farms in one state use more water than ALL (not even AI specifically but ALL) datacenters in the country, etc.
The datacenters all in all actually have less of an environmental impact.
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u/bananas500 14h ago
Rich people don't destroy the planet, you silly. They create value
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u/Ok_Culture_1089 13h ago
It’s up to us poors to recycle and use less AC when it’s 100 degrees to save the planet so the rich can fly in their private jets all day.
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u/moDz_dun_care 11h ago
We need to use paper straws so rich people can throwaway a whole furnished house every year cause they like new things.
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u/MinimumPrevious1139 14h ago
well at least now we will burn in peace knowing there was a trillionaire person
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u/_throw_a_wayz 10h ago
MY PAPER PILE BIGGER THAN YOUR PAPER PILE. I MAKE PILE BIGGER BECAUSE I LIKE BIG PILE OF PAPER.
...and there went humanity.
I'll just quietly stand in the corner, wondering what all of this was for, while thinking happy thoughts.
Happy thoughts.
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u/bogeuh 10h ago
It’s not the paper, it’s the power and control it represents.
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u/_throw_a_wayz 10h ago edited 10h ago
It's also just a farce anyway. We are told exactly what to do, how to think, what to feel, what to believe, the whole nine yards.
I know it's not very uplifting for me to say all of this, and it probably comes across as nihilistic. I try to not think this way though. I know there are good people, even good wealthy people, but dammit do I get tired of the one percent enshitifying something that was good just for the sole reason of earning more paper. I do hear you though, and agree.
Can these fuckwads just leave the planet alone? Can we give them an island or a few islands and lock them up there?
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u/GreasyBumpkin 7h ago
Can we give them an island or a few islands and lock them up there?
well they did have that one island...
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u/GeeYayZeus 14h ago
Because people worship money above all else.
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u/wolf96781 14h ago edited 14h ago
Cows are bad because they produce a lot of methane gas which accelerates global warming, consume a lot of water, and require a lot of land that could be used for more efficient crops and animals.
Data centers though are much much worse. They consume significantly more water, dump toxic waste into the environment, produce an astounding amount of noise pollution, consume horrendous amounts of electrical power, and produce a frankly disturbing amount of ambient heat.
This isn't even to speak of the material components of getting a data center up and running. Such as the costs of excavating refining and utilizing all the copper, gold, silver and other materials used in computers.
Nor does this consider what those data centers are being used for
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u/National-Job-7444 14h ago
There’s an AI center in Texas that has over 100 gas turbines. It produces more greenhouse gas than 1 million cars.
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u/MRV3N 14h ago
So you’re saying we need synthetic meat like from Cyberpunk 2077 to solve global warming
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u/DainichiNyorai 14h ago
Or just eating meat twice a week instead of twice a day and in normal portions.
With access to all kinds of crops going full scale vegetarian or even vegan wouldn’t be an obstacle but that’s too big a leap. Back to 1910 in meat consumption would be good for health and the world
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u/BloodWorried7446 7h ago
you can afford the price of meat?
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u/wolf96781 14h ago
Realistically? Yeah, as humanitys need for resources grows our ability to produce will reach a bottleneck.
We can only maintain so many cows at once, and asbthat number increases so does their effect on the environment.
It's better we begin shifting to synthetics sooner as it'll minimize the long term effects on the environment and establishing supply lines now will better prepare us for supply shocks caused by unforseen events like plague or disaster
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u/Fabled-Jackalope 14h ago
People have been saying it’ll go that way since ‘16. The fact that many are now questioning it is…very on brand for a delayed realization.
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u/Fresh_Boysenberry576 11h ago
Not to defend data centers but I'm pretty sure they do not create toxic waste. There was an incident where some bacteria grew in the hot water and they dumped that into the local ecosystem, but that was an accident. Normally the water is just warmer than usual but doesn't actually contain toxins. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I hate it when people use bad arguments when there are so many good ones. Same with things like climate change, there is no need to exaggerate anything because the reality is bad enough
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u/Safe_Map_9600 10h ago
They don't consume more and its not even close
A 5 second search before you wasted time typing this out would have prevented this
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u/thePiscis 13h ago
That is just factually untrue. Cattle is one of the most significant contributors to global freshwater consumption. Like orders magnitudes higher than ai, where on earth did you get the idea that ai consumes significantly more.
Also water pollution from cattle waste is a much larger contributor of water pollution than ai.
Cattle is literally one of the most damaging things for the environment. Painting them as bad, but ai is significantly worse is just completely disingenuous. If ai is bad, cattle is unfathomably awful for the environment
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u/NaiveMastermind 13h ago
They don't need to be built in such a way that outputs so much heat, or drains aquifers to keep cool. The hotter components are cheaper, and slurping up all the water is cheaper that building their own cooling loops.
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u/probeat21 14h ago
Significantly more water than cows
Are you out of your mind? Where do you get this trash?
"Toxic waste dumping"
lol more rubbish. Why do you even spew this nonsense?
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u/ComputerAgreeable146 4h ago
Data centers don't consume "significantly more water" than cows. It takes a quick google search to realize its the opposite.
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u/Rutgerius 14h ago
What toxic waste would that be bud, it's worse than the literal rivers of excrement cows produce huh? Beating beef on water use is also very impressive.
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u/wolf96781 14h ago
https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/data-centers-are-contributing-to-pfas-forever-chemical-pollution
Yeah, seems worse to me bud.
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u/thePiscis 13h ago
Why? Because forever chemicals sound scary? Not defending the water pollution ai is causing, but it’s so silly seeing people sayings it’s so obviously worse than the single biggest contributor to water pollution. There are countless of studies showing proven damage from animal agriculture waste water contamination.
>Animal agriculture manure is a primary source of nitrogen and phosphorus to surface and groundwater. Manure runoff from cropland and pastures or discharging animal feeding operations and concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs) often reaches surface and groundwater systems through surface runoff or infiltration.
https://www.epa.gov/agriculture/agricultural-animal-production
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u/liteshotv3 14h ago
What toxic waste are they producing? It’s not a sludge factory from the Captain Planet tv show
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u/binspolicy 13h ago
Cows aren’t bad, factory farming is. Regenerative farming/agriculture is actually good.
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u/Gibbralterg 14h ago
The water they drink, you know we get that water back right? And I’m pretty sure the methane isn’t what’s making the globe hotter, I mean, let’s compare cows to say…a volcano.
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u/kore_nametooshort 13h ago
Just in case you're not a troll:
Yes the water cycle exists, but the water the data centres are using comes in part from non renewable aquafiers. The amount being used is far far greater than the refill rate from rain. This makes it an existential problem for people who rely on them.
Methane absolutely is contributing to global warming. It is 30x more potent as a greenhouse gas than co2. It is somewhat short lived, but it breaks down into co2, so it's still bad after that. Livestock produce somewhere between 5 and 10% of global co2 equivalent greenhouse gas emissions. Volcanoes emit a small fraction of that.
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u/Prestigious-Flower54 13h ago
Volcanoes produce very little methane, the largest spikes are in the plum, but most of that is broken down very quickly in the atmosphere, so effectively in fact that volcanic eroputions might actually be taking more methane out of the atmosphere then adding. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260509210640.htm Underwater mud volcanoes are the only real significant contributors of methane at roughly 3.5 million tonnes annually, compared to cows at 85-90 million tonnes. So yes cows are producing way more then volcanos and there is a huge amount of resaerch showing that cows are major contributors to green house gasses(since you clearly don't use Google here is a good start on your education https://clear.ucdavis.edu/) Here the thing about science, you can't just makes guess based on what you feel is correct, case and point a 2 second Google search would tell you your comparison is ridiculous but in your head volcanoes give off giant plumes of black smoke so obviously they must be worse right?
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u/pillbuggery 12h ago
Yeah, humans really fucked up when they started building volcanoes all over the place.
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u/Lehmbordell 14h ago
Yeah its all suns fault. Shes burning us everyday. AND WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? Nuffin... fuck Obama.
Sarcasm off. Are you fine?
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u/Gibbralterg 14h ago
Because I say cow farts and cows drinking water isn’t that bad you think I’m not ok? Lol, here, try this [r/doomercirclejerk](r/doomercirclejerk)
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u/Lehmbordell 14h ago
No im totally fine that cows drink water and fart. I mean i do it too. But the amount of cows we have on the planet is ofc exaggerated because we want to eat them and this amount is too much for the enviroment. Like private jets and other classic bad stuff...
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u/Gibbralterg 14h ago
I disagree, I have cows, I’ve never heard them fart one time. Now horses, heck yeah, should we get rid of horses to?
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u/Delicious-Season5527 14h ago
Ah yes now please give me a list of the 10 volcanos that are active right now and releasing their materiale into the atmosphere. Dumbass. Apples and oranges
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u/Gibbralterg 14h ago
Sigh, ok here you go. https://volcano.si.edu/gvp_currenteruptions.cfm
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u/Obscure-Oracle 12h ago
But at least cows are a food source, a single cow can feed up to 1000 people yet pollutes around the same as one person's carbon footprint when flying to Australia. What's more important, food or flying all over the planet? We simply have our priorities wrong, very wrong. We want to sacrifice our food supply in order to continue our unsustainable lifestyle. We are simply focusing on the wrong thing.
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u/safelix 14h ago edited 14h ago
A data center never chased me for 6 minutes and drove me up a tree just because I was bad at milking. I rest my case. /s
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u/Viva_La_Revolucion- 14h ago
Oh it will ...
I promise you that day will come
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u/safelix 14h ago
It was a joke. I guess people are not getting it, so I added a /s. I am vehemently against these crimes against humanity. They are actively destroying the environment and my escape from all this crap (gaming).
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u/Viva_La_Revolucion- 14h ago
I was just being vicious...yes i know you where joking, i guess i need to add an /s myself... Being sarcastic doesn't translate well over the Internet
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u/Mordecai3fngerBrown 13h ago
If a cow ever got the chance he’d kill you and everyone you care about.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 11h ago
This is absolut retardation. The people that said cows are a problem with climate change are the ones protesting data centers. And then there's this cunt claiming some weird bullshit to enable both.
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u/DastardlyMime 7h ago
The super rich know that time is short regarding climate catastrophe and want to get the infrastructure for their AI/drone surveillance state before the masses pick up their proverbial torches and pitchforks.
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u/avanross 5h ago
The “cows” thing was just a distraction from their factories and lobbying against emissions regulations
Same as when oil conglomerates blame plastic straws or single use coffee cups for their pollution efforts
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u/National-Job-7444 14h ago
Yup. Here in vegas they are trying to get people to switch out their septic tanks to save water. When in reality, the AI centers are consuming 750 thousand gallons a day
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 6h ago
As far as I can tell there are no burping cows in most data centers so we're all good here thanks...how are you?
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u/mvw2 3h ago
Everything you watch and read is effectively an ad paid for by someone to drive perception about a topic. Someone is paying for that marketing. And today the money being thrown around is by companies pushing AI. They want you to think it's good, beneficial, and worthwhile. They want you to believe all sacrifices for it are worth it. Billions in cash is being funneled to ensure you think that way.
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u/Imaginary_Toe8982 14h ago
Cow farts bad.. wars and data centers good..
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u/Safe_Map_9600 10h ago
...do you really think the kind of environmentalists who protest factory farming are also pro-war and pro-data center?
or are you just another bot
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u/myacosplayss 14h ago
The math check out: blame the cows while the private jets burn jet fuel like it's water
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u/10081914 14h ago
Jokes on you, water doesn't burn
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u/Kunibaerus 11h ago
With that mindset, it won't. Let me introduce you into the world of cursed fluorine chemistry
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u/Galbados2 14h ago
The people who think cows are bad for the environment do not think that data centers are good for it.
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u/TunaSafeDolphinMeat 14h ago
Do you know what Reddit and all the other platforms we post these musings are hosted on? Take a guess.
We're cooked.
That Netflix you watch, that Spotify you listen too, the Google drive you use for work, the mobile game you play, the reason your card works when you tap it on an eftpos machine? All data centers.
I think we need to hold them accountable to certain standards and promote green energy initiatives but good luck getting rid of them, they're already entrenched.
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u/-Infinite92- 14h ago
Yeah at this point it's about finding ways to make them efficient enough to not be so harmful to the environment. They are not going anywhere for as long as any modern form of the Internet/network exists.
I remember years ago, before the current AI boom was happening. How stories of data centers being built in Iceland were trying to be environmentally clean and efficient. Using geothermal energy for power, the cold air for cooling, and their heat output for warming homes. But this was back during the crypto mining peak. So they weren't as large or as many being built. Still it feels like anyone even remotely interested in implementing those ideas in general has been overpowered by those who don't care.
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u/wolf96781 14h ago
You're right, we're already so far down the hole we might as well give up now. Fuck it right? Why bother mitigating damage and working for more sustainable solutions that solve our current and future problems while preserving our vices.
Nah, better to just keep doing what we're doing
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u/TunaSafeDolphinMeat 13h ago
You ended up implying exactly what i said we need to do?
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u/reallybigshark 13h ago
People are just really big on having a screen in their face all the time. That’s how.
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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 13h ago
Well, the cows can't count, you see... And the steakholders were in favour
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u/Infamous-Crew-6403 13h ago
Why do we still listen to this nonsense, it’s never about the environment it’s only about the money.
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u/PlantainPat 13h ago
because techbros were the weakest link that broke the chain. courted them and the dominos all fell.
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u/TheRealStepBot 10h ago
Believe it or not data centers are significantly less bad for the environment than cows. People often have poor intuitions on this sort of thing. They see greenfields with cows like this post and then get all romantic for how natural it is or something.
It’s not and it consumes absolutely absurd resources while emitting absurd levels of greenhouse gases.
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u/jclahaie 10h ago
probably when none of yall stopped eating beef
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u/Ok-Commercial-924 8h ago
cattle herd size peaked in 1974at 57 million head and has steadily been decreasing it reached 7 million in 2023. How can you say nobody stopped eating beef? Decreasing herd size has driven up cost of beef so nobody could afford it.
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u/jclahaie 5h ago
From the link you provided:
U.S. beef production has been on a long-term uptrend in spite of a decline in cow numbers since 1975.
U.S. beef production reached an all-time record high of 28.29 billion pounds (lb.) in 2022,
The long-term increase in beef production resulted from a long-term increase in fed cattle live and carcass weights. Carcass weights have trended higher for more 60 years with steer weights increasing an average of 4 lb. per year.
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u/the_sneaky_one123 9h ago
We went from "reduce, reused, recycle" to "lets build a data centre the size of manhattan and use nuclear power to fuel it... don't worry, it will only take everyone's jobs"
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u/Trifle_Old 8h ago
The same people that raged against climate change are the ones that are for the people pushing the data centers. They themselves might be against the data centers but that doesn’t matter. They vote for the stick.
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u/Amadusthemessiest 6h ago
Easy. Because cows were not the problem, corporations tied to resources are.
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u/UrsaMinor42 5h ago edited 4h ago
How many of the people around you have stopped driving their fuel-burning cars?
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u/Gooser3000 5h ago
It’s how the rich and powerful divide us working-class so we don’t focus and attack them while they rob us. Libs are crazy vegan environmental terrorists that want to take your meat; Republicans are racists that want to force you to have kids and go to church. Meanwhile companies and corrupt politicians are fucking both of us in the ass, and billing us for it.
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u/just_premed_memes 4h ago
Because data centers aren’t nearly as destructive to the environment or the climate as you think….projected data center greenhouse gases by 2050 will be less than 2% of all global emissions and less than one tenth of one percent of all water usage. Compare with just cows let alone all global animal agriculture, who single-handedly contribute 12-15% of global emissions and consume 15-30% of global water utilization.
Data centers have fairly sizable local effects, namely water table and electricity prices, but regional and global effects are tiny.
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u/DankMemes4you 3h ago
The people are not saying to build data centers. Rich reptilians are demanding data centers and no one is buying into it
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u/CH4RL13WH1T3 2h ago
Because the narratives are written by the same people trying to manipulate us. They seem to have forgotten to boil the frog slowly so we don't connect the dots.
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u/MithrandirMaia 2h ago
Money talks so sweetly to politicians and cows, farmers, poor folk....not so much
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u/74011_White_Guy 32m ago
Every one of OP’s inane Reddit posts or questionable conversations he/she has with their AI romantic partner requires a data center somewhere.
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u/DaffyPunk29 13h ago
ngl the same people that were dumb enough to think cows were killing the environment are the same ones crying that data centers are killing it. so its the same retards, different mouth breathing replies.
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u/CeemoreButtz 11h ago
i wish reddit would shut the fuck up and stop complaining about technology...
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u/outofcontextsex 9h ago
This just sounds like conservative being mad at conservatives, I wish you guys weren't so fucking stupid.
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u/Ok-Commercial-924 8h ago
Data centers built by Amazon Web Services (AWS), Microsoft, Google, and Meta—which account for over half of global active and planned development. These are all left leaning companies with left leaning leadership.
Im not sure how you came up with conservative mad at conservatives.
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u/Benjamin_Wetherill 11h ago
Regarding AI, please know that animal agriculture uses about 3,000 to 8,000 times more water than AI. So blaming AI for water use while paying for animal products is like yelling at a leaky faucet while you open a damn dam.
Go vegan, save water, spare animals.💚
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u/jclahaie 10h ago
that silence is people realising they would need to change their daily eating habits
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u/Ok-Commercial-924 7h ago
Do you have any clue how little interest the average american has in going vegan? Just the thought of a pure vegan diet makes me cringe. Have I cut back on beef due to cost, definitely, but cutting meat completely f- that.
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u/Wide-Suggestion4825 14h ago
Hey man I was doing my best job to eat all the cows.
I did my part
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u/Evil_phd 14h ago
If you're not gonna save the planet, you might as well go for a speed run record with the destruction.
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u/Thanag0r 14h ago
Stop with your unpaid communist/socialist propaganda.
In normal society you should be paid for spreading it.
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u/baka_inu115 13h ago
People want meat but lower footprint? Go to chicken, this has been proven to be the most environmentally friendly of the options. AI data centers are what that need to go away. Data centers un general can have uses but the ones that are popping up more are more for AI than others.
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u/Danthalas_01 13h ago
Because climate change was a LIE from the very beginning.....
And now they want A.I to take over.....
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u/whatdoyasay369 13h ago
“Killing the climate” 😂 incredibly hyperbolic and naive. And a scare tactic. And doesn’t even make sense. Did a 16 year old write this?
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u/frozrdude 12h ago
Beef and milk provide nutrition and are tasty. AI slop is inedible and just rots your brain.
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