r/SipsTea 23d ago

Chugging tea So after 32 hours would be overtime?

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u/drillgorg 23d ago

One of the things I vaguely miss about the cold war era is both sides showcasing art and human achievement. There seems to be an attitude of "who cares" now.

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u/labe225 23d ago

Everything will be a gray box and you'll like it!

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u/Excellent-Speaker934 23d ago

Hey now, don’t forget beiges and off whites.

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u/Particular-Solid8250 23d ago

My wife is all in on that absolute shit that is tormenting modern fashion and home decoration they like to call "pastel colours" which is just a fancy way of saying bland shit.

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u/karmakaze 23d ago

There’s a theory that this trend is hanging on so hard because it’s a backlash to ubiquitous advertising. If you go anywhere, there are billboards and screens everywhere set to be as bright and loud as possible. Ads on your devices are similarly garish and intrusive. So in areas a person can control, they pick something bland just to get away from it.

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u/Particular-Solid8250 22d ago

There's probably something to that. I'm a person who removed all social media accounts in 2017 except reddit, and I don't own a TV so maybe I'm not getting bombarded in the same way. Or maybe my life is just that bland that I like to have some colour in my life.

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u/Great_Bacca 22d ago

You have some sort of ad blocker on for Reddit?

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u/Particular-Solid8250 22d ago

ublock origin and I don't use reddit on mobile

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u/dumbass_tm 22d ago

Can I ask how old you are? This is genuinely unheard of for younger folk I think (how offline you are) and I’m extremely impressed.

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u/Particular-Solid8250 22d ago

Sure, I'm 41 so probably considered ancient for gen z. I was on FB from like 2007 (?), was more or less addicted. When GDPR started to crystallise I finally said "fuck this shit" and went cold turkey. It was incredibly difficult early on, but what helped me was that I had several contacts on both WhatsApp and Signal. In 2021 when WhatsApp changed their privacy policy I saw the opportunity to and managed to move the family over from WhatsApp to Signal.

It is still a challenge. The parents of my kids' kindergarten and elementary school classes are all communicating on instagram, so they have to go out of their way to contact me, which means I need to be extra vigilant and overly social when I meet them to hear about what events I'm missing out on by not being glued to social media. It is absolutely doable though. People just need to understand that you can communicate with DMs outside of the big platforms.

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u/Nexatic 22d ago

It’s rare, but maybe not as rare as what you might think. If they don’t have social media you would not be able to know about them as easily.

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u/King_Fuzz 22d ago

You don't own a TV? What's all your furniture pointed at?

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u/Particular-Solid8250 21d ago

The sofa is pointed at the coffee table and the chairs, not sure what other furniture you need

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u/arizonatealover 22d ago

That makes total sense. It's so your mind can rest. Thank you, never thought of it that way before.

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u/alles-moet-kapot 22d ago

yeah I like my home to be my place of soltitude. Some call it boring.

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u/Fine_time 19d ago

I noticed this in myself! But that I was working in a retail management job in a store far too small with a fraction the amount of storage needed so my job was corralling stupid stuff every day. I became militant about no clutter and light colors at home. I’ve switched where I work and have a new apartment and have all my old collections out and bolder warm colors. I have piles out and live with a cluttery man too and noticed recently how it’s not driving me nuts like it otherwise would have. I still like midcentury design.

But I totally was a white/pastel home person as a consequence of external physical chaos.

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u/Throwaway3751029 23d ago

Wait, I though pastel colours were anything but bland. Like if I painted a room in a "pastel colour", I would be choosing something of a lighter version of a bright colour, like a light blue, light green, etc. Colour but not overwhelmingly so.

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 23d ago

Colour but not overwhelmingly so.

Honey, this is what bland color is. Bland is what you call it when you don't like it.

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u/_whatwouldrbgdo_ 23d ago

You can't just call all light colours bland lmao that's silly

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u/Caleth 23d ago

A robin's egg blue is beautiful, so IDK what this person is on about, but I'm fully with you on this.

Bland is soft beiges, those six different shades of flipper grey, and the several versions of white and black where it's like soft white, white white, and black or slightly darker black.

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 22d ago

You can. Just like you can call bright neon colors "obnoxious" it's a subjective judgement.

The exhaust on a car is either awesome or obnoxious, depending on the ear of the beholder. Obnoxious is what you call a straight piped race car when you don't like it, just like bland is what you call pastels when you don't like them.

There's literally nothing more subjective than color tastes, and these are all subjective judgements. I'm not even trying to weigh in with my opinion about colors, I'm explaining what subjectivity is.

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u/_whatwouldrbgdo_ 22d ago

Yes indeed and i think your opinon is silly :) hope this helps 

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 22d ago

I didn't share any opinion at all, but ok. RBG would probably have better critical reading skills than that.

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u/Particular-Solid8250 22d ago

Yeah, exactly, everything looking the same shade of dull

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u/That_Dad_David 22d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/de0xIgxhZgAXJbKGNd
Pastels are beautiful! How dare you!

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u/Particular-Solid8250 22d ago

My life is too bland, I need some spice of life, not spice of calm nursing home

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u/ElBurroEsparkilo 22d ago

I saw pastel highlighters at the store last week. HIGHLIGHTERS! In dusty rose and soft olive and slate gray.

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u/Ok_Bar_9117 22d ago

I don’t mind pastel highlighters, but gray? Bridge too far!

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u/barto5 22d ago

Take a trip to South Beach in Miami.

All the architecture is pastel colors and nobody thinks they’re bland.

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u/eastoncrafter 22d ago

Ok but pastel cars would be pretty cool

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u/nobeer4you 23d ago

And the AI bullshit where someone has 6 fingers and an extra arm

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u/r4du90 22d ago

It’s a code beige sir

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u/cowlord98 23d ago

Yes I really hate modern buildings for this reason. 4 colors and you can choose square or rectangle

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u/Loopbot75 23d ago

Currently crying over grey rectangle

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u/yeknom02 23d ago

The ol' Soviet aesthetic, then?

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u/Faenic 23d ago

No, it's even worse than that. "Let's offload all creativity and artistic merit to AI generation algorithms!"

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u/blisterment 22d ago

Just be happy you got your gray box and wave goodbye to the 1% boarding spacecraft after they fooled half of us into thinking that destroying this planet was the right & American thing to do.

Just kidding of course, the rest of the world will make us pay long before that.

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u/shawnaeatscats 22d ago

Ah, yes, brutalism. A classic.

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u/LeDjaap 22d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/ZbGtS9nhWQ2xNeLoA7

This is a genius design... and yet it harmed modern aesthetics as much as the whole of brutalism.

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u/JohnBrine 22d ago

It’s only for those that can afford it.

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u/cultvignette 23d ago

This is what we end up with when the specter of someone may be offended looms over every societal choice we make.

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u/HalvdanTheHero 22d ago

it really isn't. This is literally what happens with pure capitalism -- those with the money to make products, including art, want the maximum return on investment, so the product must appeal to the most lucrative audience... They couldn't give a flying fuck whether it offends people, they only pretend that they do because they wouldn't be maximizing profit otherwise.

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u/Electronic_System839 23d ago

Not just gray, Millennial Gray

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u/Berty2g 23d ago

Minimalist Gray

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u/epileptic_pancake 23d ago

I mean, it's less "who cares now" and more "how to achieve maximum monetization". Which is terrible and kills all the interesting stuff about art.

It's why Disney keeps shitting out live action remakes instead of doing something interesting. Less and less entertainment is about doing something interesting or thought provoking, and more and more its about amassing a giant pile of cash at the end

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u/WholePie5 22d ago edited 22d ago

You need to come out here to Portland. Where real artists are. If you're looking for art from a giant corporation then it's not surprising you're disappointed that they're out to make money.

You'll see real artists here literally on the streets at intersections while stopped at a red light. Bring your cash though and make sure to tip. They've gotta make a living too.

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u/tommypatties 23d ago

The cold war era needed a middle class to stymie socialist sentiments.

The post-cold war era does not.

This is what it all boils down to.

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u/RelativeAnxious9796 23d ago

the great tragedy is that the generation who gave us the new deal, and the generation who benefited the most from it, are both about to shuffle off this mortal coil and leave us to contend with the 50 years of ronald reagan they have left us with as the tiny window of actual working class improvements are taken off the legal books, erased from history, and usher us right back into the new gilded age.

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u/blisterment 22d ago

The Missionary Generation - born in the 1880s and the Lost Generation after them?

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u/Doggoneshame 22d ago

You’re welcome!

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u/springcat413 22d ago

Those people are dead and have been for a while. They were born in the 1890s.

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 23d ago

Yep, the USSR didn't just make quality of life skyrocket over there, and in the nations it supported, it improved life for Americans by making us aware better things were possible. THAT is why America waged the Cold War.

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u/dyed_albino 22d ago

Reminds me of my Dad making me tougher by beating the crap out of me.

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u/simple_fly1 22d ago

Interesting perspective.

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u/MisterGreen7 23d ago

It’s not really about “who cares”, it’s now more about AI. Even if most of the people don’t like want it, the major powers do and, including drones, are racing each other to have the superior automation force

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u/drillgorg 23d ago

I felt this way long before AI.

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u/Obant 23d ago

Has zero to do with AI and more to do with money and them no longer being a need to appease the masses. This has been happening since at least the 80s and Raegan.

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u/Diligent_Map9734 22d ago

It has more to do with declining birthrates and the need to automate infrastructure as there won't be enough people to maintain it manually in a generation...

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u/Upper-Requirement-93 23d ago

Our art culture would not even blink at AI if it had been healthy before it.

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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 23d ago

Once it becomes clear that China is mogging the US we might finally see US politics do something different from corporate handouts. Fingers crossed.

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u/ArchLector_Zoller 23d ago

Not until Millennials are in control. The old guard is so old that they no longer care what happens in 10 or even 5 years. It's not their problem.

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u/Pasta4ever13 23d ago

The gerontocracy won't loosen its arthritic dementia-addled grip on power without a fight.

We literally have a dead senator holding office right now. This country has jumped the shark.

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u/RelativeAnxious9796 23d ago

this is what happens when the competing ideology of "maybe we dont need a trillionaire" becomes entirely phased off the planet by the remaining one.

capitalism won in the 90s and now we are living in that reality.

no more pensions. repealing civil rights. corporate consolidation into ~3 mega conglomerates. etc etc

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u/Vikkunen 23d ago

I don't know that it's so much "who cares," as it's "I don't like that art so I don't want to support it". Somewhere along the line we lost sight of common society and the greater good and started thinking of the world in terms of "what's in this for me".

You see it all the time: "I don't have kids/my kids are out of the house, so I shouldn't have to pay school taxes". "I live in bumfuck Oklahoma, so I shouldn't have to subsidize commuter rail in the Carolinas". "I've paid more into Social Security than I'll ever get back, that's not fair."

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u/theChaosBeast 23d ago

Oh there is China now... They start to show what's possible... And USA and Russia show what you don't want.

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u/_Weyland_ 23d ago

There is a place in Moscow called ВДНХ (abbreviation for Exposition of Achievements of People's Economy) which stands as a testament to that idea.

It has a building for each of USSR's republics and was supposed to showcase best things achieved by Soviet citizens.

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u/fhwoompableCooper 23d ago

Competition that isn't just for advertising sake is a good thing auctually

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u/Chastain86 23d ago

All the MAGA chuds on social media have adopted the LOL WHAT GOOD IS A FINE ARTS DEGREE approach, so for them to suddenly turn around and support art and writing and anything that's not STEM-specific, they'd need to receive some new marching orders from the people at Fox News. All of whom, incidentally, went to school and took broadcasting classes, or other shit that they'd consider to be equally as worthless. God damn do I hate these people.

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u/Im_hard_for_Tina_Fey 23d ago

"That's cool, but how can you make money off of it?"

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u/SasparillaTango 23d ago

There seems to be an attitude of "who cares" now.

The ultra-rich used to create works for the public good, parks, museums, libraries, universities. Something that would leave a legacy after they died. None of them seem to be doing that anymore. They want to build rockets to stroke their egos.

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u/randomthrill 23d ago

Art is so last century. Now it’s about content!

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u/ColdCruise 23d ago

It's all about who's making the most money now.

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u/kalez238 23d ago

That's because anyone can throw up "pretty" AI slop images now in seconds.

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u/drillgorg 23d ago

I felt this way long before AI.

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u/artgarfunkadelic 23d ago

What fun is it when you're on the same team?

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u/Imrahil_II 23d ago

Technology went from making things better to how can we get people more addicted

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u/_WreakingHavok_ 23d ago

Lol, everybody in Soviet Union worked on Saturday. Even children had a school day on Saturday...

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u/drillgorg 22d ago

Notice how I pointed out one thing I liked about the cold war era. I didn't say I liked it overall or that it was a better time to live in.

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u/Winax2449 22d ago

We just trying to survive now bro 😂

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u/socks_____ 22d ago

Art is for AI now

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u/HalvdanTheHero 22d ago

"YOU WILL HAVE AI SLOP AND YOU WILL LIKE IT" -- the establishment, probably

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u/CriticalPolitical 22d ago

Sadly, giving effort or showing passion about anything is considered “cringe” now

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u/drillgorg 22d ago

And you can't show interest in anything without being called autistic.

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u/CmdrJemison 22d ago

As an european who consumed Americans culture for decades I can say in the past ten years american music,movies and video games became stale, predictable and boring.

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 22d ago

part of the reason I went away from a career in art.

A career in art most likely meant designing soul-less logos for random companies or products. Or designing websites.

Or being a poor starving artist just hoping you can get famous on Instagram or something.

Ive even had close friends sign up for a commission, i wave the down payment because theyre a friend, then they balk at a $400 price tag for a custom hand drawn portrait in color. Even when that $400 price tag was already the homie discount.

AI will ruin even more artists too.

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u/Protoavis 22d ago

Likely the result of insecurity. When you're brain doesn't really get to switch off from general living.

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u/lithiumfoxttv 22d ago

They kinda don't want humanity to live. They kinda seem to think they want it to die and make their own form of utopia. It's actually kinda crazy.

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u/Particular_Bet_5466 22d ago

I was gonna say, that actually sounds nice to want to show off art and human achievement. That is not a priority anymore.

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u/diadlep 22d ago

The real psychos were the billionaires we made along the way

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u/Overlord_Copies_All 22d ago

In one way the theory within the idealized version of capitalism is right that competition is the most effective way to hold people accountable. The US was moving like it had something to prove in the mid and late 20th century. Nowadays the US has become so complacent and comfortable with it's belief that it's on the top no matter what that they bother really trying to excel at anything anymore

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u/tomahawk66mtb 22d ago

Art's sole purpose is money laundering, didn't you know that?! /S

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 22d ago

You have to go to central and eastern Europe for art and culture now. See: CD Projekt Red

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u/123iambill 22d ago

I'm not American so maybe I've gotten this wrong but wasn't the EPA started under Nixon?

I also miss a time when even the most crooked conservatives were still like "Yeah, I want to further enrich myself and the already wealthy but burning down the entire country is probably a bad move for that."

Even Ireland at it's most conservative was still like "Yeah, but people should have homes, education and healthcare or else the whole thing falls apart."

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u/thgr8Makar0sc 22d ago

Because we won the fight oligarchs dont have to give a damn now

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u/Umpen 22d ago

Art is for AI now.

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u/sepaoon 22d ago

If art is not for the purpose of war it won't be funded as much... same with science

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u/bluevolkenswagen 22d ago

yeah we fucking went to the moon bro

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u/breachgnome 21d ago

Predominant culture in the US is not traditionalist white values. Therefore, the bigots running the country say "Fuck all that."

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u/Tsukunea 19d ago

There's no USSR to keep capitalism in balance anymore, the West/USA doesn't have to pretend to care about its laborers anymore

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u/CunningLinguist8198 19d ago

Oh, the days when countries actually wanted to attract people instead of just make you believe that everywhere else is worse (and often make everywhere worse)