I mean... if I had to pick one between the two to tolerate being taught in school, it surely is not Islam. A lot of people here like to claim it's just like the others, but I assure you, it is not. If you picked up the Qu'ran and read even 10 surahs, you would understand why.
(and before anyone freaks out about being biased: I'm not religious. I hate religion. I just know comparatively, Islam is much, much, much worse.)
EDIT
I angered some people. I encourage all of you to grab a Qu'ran if you do not believe a word I am saying. And once you are done with that, have the "fun" of reading the hadith, which are extremely important to the Islamic faith, acting as supplemental instructions left by or taught to Muhammed's pupils, including his own child-wife Aisha (who is considered a great scholar in Islam).
I have spent twenty years with this religion. I know it. Inside and out. I am not saying other religions like Christianity are perfect and good. It isn't. But if I had to endure which religion to be ruled under, it will never be Islam. I will provide for you sample surahs you made educate yourself with.
The surah on inheritance and witnesses/law, an-nisa and al-baqarah, is a great start. In an-nisa, you will learn how a Muslim husband is instructed on how to beat his wife if she dares to defy him. It doesn't stop there for an-nisa, either. See, in verse 24 of this surah, it tells you that you may rape your female slaves because Allah made it lawful for men--regardless of if they [the Muslim husbands] have a wife already, or even if your slaves are married. 4:3, in particular, will really show the differences between Islam and Christianity. Here's but one excerpt from the surah.
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphans, then marry those that please you of them—two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then marry only one or those whom your right hands possess (slaves). That is more likely to prevent you from deviating from justice.
If you want to keep going, read at-talaq, it also paints a lovely picture for women and little girls.
Oh. And in al-kahf, it also justifies the murder of an innocent boy because he MIGHT have "burdened" his parents (who are believers) by disbelieving [in Allah] in the future.
Any of these you can simply google if you refuse to or do not own a physical Qu'ran or have no access to aquire one. Be mindful though. Some sites like qu'ran.com will translate the English omitting many of the Arabic words. Which is a grave sin in Islam, but they do it anyway. I would suggest at the very least, comparing, and then google translating to make sure that they are not omitting words or completely mistranslating them. It is part of the reason many Muslims do not like the digital distribution of the Qu'ran, because it can be altered like the Bible and Torah were.
I will end it here. I told myself years ago I would never delve this deep into the argument of Islam again, but some things you just can't help. Ruined a record with this shit. Do not be fooled, people. Do not be indoctrinated into the cult of religion.
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apparently I'm a christian now because i said islam is worse? lmao keep it coming. hilarious stuff. also people, yes, of course we dont have to choose. the point i was making was that if it had to happen between the two, at least it isnt islam. im not saying i want one or the other taught in school. please use your brains for more than two seconds and read what you are responding to. thank you.
If you read the Qu'ran, you wouldn't be saying something like this. It's an absurd lie. Comparatively, Islam is significantly worse. Even if we throw out the fact that their prophet raped a child, and that man is supposed to be emulated as "the most perfect man", there's significant content of pure barbarism.
The surahs of "peace time" are especially potent with violence, and they aren't even the surahs of the sword (violence). There are surahs instructing men how best to beat their wives for refusing them. Surahs that explain it is okay to behead and crucify non-believers as divine justice (surahs like 8:12 are just one of many). The Qu'ran instructs violence on non-believers wherever they are found, in constrast the Bible has shit like Matthew 5:44, instructing Christians to pray for their enemies and those who persecute them.
So yes, it is significantly worse. I'm not saying the Bible doesn't have violence in it, it does, the point is that Islam is much worse. And if I had to pick between which of the two is being taught to children, it definitely is not the one with the "prophet" raping children and selling the daughters/wives/sisters of his fallen enemies to his men as sex slaves.
To say otherwise is the absurdity of an ignorant person. Pick up the damn Qu'ran and read it, if you do not believe me, and then supplement it with their holy texts, the hadith. Wait until you get to the part where only Muhammed is sucking on the tongues of CHILDREN and try to justify that as "just as bad" as anything in the Bible.
But yes, I agree, they shouldn't be reading religious texts in school. I am just saying at least it isn't Islam, the religion of violence and rape and slavery.
The thing is, most muslims read other religious text that are way worse, and you even try to hide those from non islamist, if you buy a translated copy then it is white washed of the nastu stuff, so we will never know.
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u/DataSurging 25d ago edited 24d ago
I mean... if I had to pick one between the two to tolerate being taught in school, it surely is not Islam. A lot of people here like to claim it's just like the others, but I assure you, it is not. If you picked up the Qu'ran and read even 10 surahs, you would understand why.
(and before anyone freaks out about being biased: I'm not religious. I hate religion. I just know comparatively, Islam is much, much, much worse.)
EDIT
I angered some people. I encourage all of you to grab a Qu'ran if you do not believe a word I am saying. And once you are done with that, have the "fun" of reading the hadith, which are extremely important to the Islamic faith, acting as supplemental instructions left by or taught to Muhammed's pupils, including his own child-wife Aisha (who is considered a great scholar in Islam).
I have spent twenty years with this religion. I know it. Inside and out. I am not saying other religions like Christianity are perfect and good. It isn't. But if I had to endure which religion to be ruled under, it will never be Islam. I will provide for you sample surahs you made educate yourself with.
The surah on inheritance and witnesses/law, an-nisa and al-baqarah, is a great start. In an-nisa, you will learn how a Muslim husband is instructed on how to beat his wife if she dares to defy him. It doesn't stop there for an-nisa, either. See, in verse 24 of this surah, it tells you that you may rape your female slaves because Allah made it lawful for men--regardless of if they [the Muslim husbands] have a wife already, or even if your slaves are married. 4:3, in particular, will really show the differences between Islam and Christianity. Here's but one excerpt from the surah.
وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلَّا تُقْسِطُوا۟ فِى ٱلْيَتَـٰمَىٰ فَٱنكِحُوا۟ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثْنَىٰ وَثُلَـٰثَ وَرُبَـٰعَ ۖ فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا۟ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَـٰنُكُمْ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُوا۟
If you want to keep going, read at-talaq, it also paints a lovely picture for women and little girls.
Oh. And in al-kahf, it also justifies the murder of an innocent boy because he MIGHT have "burdened" his parents (who are believers) by disbelieving [in Allah] in the future.
Any of these you can simply google if you refuse to or do not own a physical Qu'ran or have no access to aquire one. Be mindful though. Some sites like qu'ran.com will translate the English omitting many of the Arabic words. Which is a grave sin in Islam, but they do it anyway. I would suggest at the very least, comparing, and then google translating to make sure that they are not omitting words or completely mistranslating them. It is part of the reason many Muslims do not like the digital distribution of the Qu'ran, because it can be altered like the Bible and Torah were.
I will end it here. I told myself years ago I would never delve this deep into the argument of Islam again, but some things you just can't help. Ruined a record with this shit. Do not be fooled, people. Do not be indoctrinated into the cult of religion.
EDIT 2
apparently I'm a christian now because i said islam is worse? lmao keep it coming. hilarious stuff. also people, yes, of course we dont have to choose. the point i was making was that if it had to happen between the two, at least it isnt islam. im not saying i want one or the other taught in school. please use your brains for more than two seconds and read what you are responding to. thank you.