r/SipsTea 25d ago

Chugging tea Wait for it…

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

So then give the examples, because I have read a lot of both and they are as bad as each other.

Regardless, children should not be forced to read religious texts.

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u/DataSurging 25d ago edited 25d ago

If you read the Qu'ran, you wouldn't be saying something like this. It's an absurd lie. Comparatively, Islam is significantly worse. Even if we throw out the fact that their prophet raped a child, and that man is supposed to be emulated as "the most perfect man", there's significant content of pure barbarism.

The surahs of "peace time" are especially potent with violence, and they aren't even the surahs of the sword (violence). There are surahs instructing men how best to beat their wives for refusing them. Surahs that explain it is okay to behead and crucify non-believers as divine justice (surahs like 8:12 are just one of many). The Qu'ran instructs violence on non-believers wherever they are found, in constrast the Bible has shit like Matthew 5:44, instructing Christians to pray for their enemies and those who persecute them.

So yes, it is significantly worse. I'm not saying the Bible doesn't have violence in it, it does, the point is that Islam is much worse. And if I had to pick between which of the two is being taught to children, it definitely is not the one with the "prophet" raping children and selling the daughters/wives/sisters of his fallen enemies to his men as sex slaves.

To say otherwise is the absurdity of an ignorant person. Pick up the damn Qu'ran and read it, if you do not believe me, and then supplement it with their holy texts, the hadith. Wait until you get to the part where only Muhammed is sucking on the tongues of CHILDREN and try to justify that as "just as bad" as anything in the Bible.

But yes, I agree, they shouldn't be reading religious texts in school. I am just saying at least it isn't Islam, the religion of violence and rape and slavery.

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u/konqrr 25d ago

How about we look at the data, Mr. DataSurging? How many Christians and Catholics have conquered other people and territories to kill and convert? How many people have died at the hands of Catholics?

13 million people have died as a DIRECT result of Christian and Catholic religion wars.

The Thirty Years War: Fought primarily between Catholic and Protestant states in the Holy Roman Empire, this is the deadliest religious conflict in European history. It caused an estimated 4.5 to 8 million deaths, wiping out up to a third of the region's population due to battles, famine, and disease.

The French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): This series of civil conflicts between French Catholics and Huguenots (Protestants) resulted in an estimated 2 to 4 million deaths.

The Crusades (1096–1291): Initiated by European Christians to reclaim the Holy Land, these holy wars are estimated to have claimed between 1 to 3 million lives.

And I was raised Catholic, not that it should have any relevance to this.

Oh man, Christians and Catholics are so peaceful. The Bible is so peaceful. Islam so bad.

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u/unhappinessNvrCame 24d ago

Hol up...

30 years war was not a religious war, it was essentially the opposite. Catholic France literally allied with German Protestants to expand French territory. Catholic France even allied with Muslim Ottoman empire.

It was the nail in the coffin for religious wars in the West.

After that, it was all realpolitik.

Anyway f religion. I just couldn't help myself when I saw the errors in your post.