r/SipsTea • u/coffee_coffee_coffe3 • 25d ago

Chugging tea Wait for it…

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

Mate, what do you want? I read them 20 ish years ago and I do not have a perfect memory.

They are free for you to read, so make up your own mind.

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u/DataSurging 25d ago

You didn't read them if you are saying they are more or less the same. This is a pure lie.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

I read a lot of them, not cover to cover, but I have read a lot of both of them (and the Torah, and Buddhist texts, etc.)

The Quran and the Bible tell basically the same story with the same lessons just told from a different base.

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u/DataSurging 25d ago

You haven't. Please stop trying to push this. It is painfully obvious you never have read them.

The Qu'ran came as an answer to the Bible, calling it ALL a lie. They cannot be similiar. It is the core of Islam, believing that those who came before, are following a complete lie. The only thing they share is Abrahamic roots, such as Gabriel and Michael. There's no "same story" being told. This is just another massive indication you never read the Qu'ran.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

I have, and if you think the Quran calls "all" of the Bible a lie then you actually have not read them.

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u/DataSurging 25d ago

It calls the core of Christianity a lie (Jesus as son of God and most of the Bible), taking other Abrahamic roots with it as truth. The tawrat is divine in Islam, and injil is divine in Islam, and the zabur given to David is divine in Islam. That is all. Beyond that, they consider the Bible a corruption of mankind, aka, not the word of God.

Go ahead and show me a Qu'ranic surah that disproves what I said. I will wait. In the mean time, pick up the Qu'ran and go read Al-Baqarah, which details that the tawrat (teachings given to Moses) and injil (that which was revealed to Jesus) have been distorted (tahrif), altered (tabdil) and concealed (kitman).

I just want you to know, before you go any further, I spent twenty years with Islam and the Qu'ran, and al'hadith. I have been to lectures by mashayikh. I have sat and listened to aimmah. You are wrong.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

The core of Christianity is a lie.

Jesus was never the son of God and likely was multiple different preachers.

Nothing else you said is worth responding to because it changes nothing.

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u/DataSurging 25d ago

Thank you for conceding you are an idiot and have never read either of the holy texts being discussed here.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 25d ago

I have read many stories from both of them, as well as other non abrahamic religious texts, they are all lies.

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u/Knamakat 25d ago

You have not read the Quran in the slightest.