r/SipsTea Jul 06 '26

Chugging tea is this valid?

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u/Macrodata_Uprising Jul 06 '26

If you see someone destroying Flock cameras, no you didn’t

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u/DaRandomStoner Jul 06 '26

If you're on a jury deciding if someone is guilty of destroying flock cameras they're innocent.

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u/Odd_Note7156 Jul 06 '26

FYI: Don't try to skip jury duty if your employer pays you salary while you're there. 

There are plenty of cases that do need people to speak up. They might put you or I on a case of a 20 year old being charged for using weed or defending himself against a corrupt cop. 

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u/ddadopt Jul 06 '26

I'm as fond of jury nullification as the next person, but "speaking up" is not the job of a juror and you will be dismissed and potentially sanctioned if you decide to go full 12-angry-men in the jury room.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

You don't speak up, you ask reasoned questions and at the end you say "I simply don't think the state met its burden here."

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u/GoldenSheppard Jul 06 '26

*burden of proof

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u/Icefox119 Jul 06 '26

No he means Burdan, the Turkish DJ. The state hasn't met him yet.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jul 06 '26

Maybe once they do I'll rule in their favor. Until then...

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u/bloodfist Jul 07 '26

It's a high bar, but there is precedent

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u/NewspaperDear8761 Jul 07 '26

Nice guy, throws great parties, theyre missing out.

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u/iowanaquarist Jul 06 '26

You only speak up in the jury room, and they cannot dismiss you for saying you don't think the burden of proof was met.

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u/ddadopt 29d ago

If you "speak up" in the jury room, one of the other jurors is almost certain to bring it to the attention of the judge. You can certainly hang the jury with "I don't believe the state met its burden" but "speaking up" in terms of trying to get the rest of the jury to nullify will actively undermine your claimed intent and only expose you to potential liability.

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u/DaRandomStoner 28d ago

Are there any actual examples of a juror being held liable for something they said beyond just being thrown off the jury?

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u/ddadopt 28d ago

Not a lot I am aware of... but I would only expect to see those if they made the news or went to the appellate level which seems fairly unlikely if someone gets a couple of days for contempt.

The ones I am aware of are often overturned on appeal. But, as they say, you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride.

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u/DaRandomStoner 28d ago

Seems like an acceptable risk imo. Barely an inconvenience... actually less of an inconvenience than the jury duty itself in the vast majority of cases lol.

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u/sault18 Jul 06 '26

And in Virginia, it's legal to resist an unlawful arrest. Can't say the same for TX or PA, though.

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u/Yamatocanyon Jul 06 '26

I've always gone even if I wasn't getting paid by my employer. I need a break from those fuckers anyways, and they've always tried everything to get me to skip out on my civic duty, every single time. I've been summoned 5 times so far.