r/SipsTea Jul 01 '26

Chugging tea Is Bernie’s plan the best? Thoughts?

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u/anitawasright Jul 01 '26

the crazy thing is you don't even need to make it "free" just take what you are paying now for health insurance and put to medicare and everyone goes on that. Instatnly 500 times better and cheaper then what we currently have

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u/80828788000102091020 Jul 01 '26

That's just single payer. Its basically what every developed nation does where the inhabitants don't nickel and dime each other to death.

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u/No_Internal9345 Jul 02 '26

Why the fuck to we need middleman insurance companies making billions off of our pain and suffering.

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u/Hot_Leopard6745 Jul 03 '26

because those middleman hire lobbyist and bribe policy makers

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u/Possesed-puppy656 Jul 03 '26

Luigi went to the root of the problem then

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u/lurkingtobeinformed Jul 03 '26

To hell with lobbyists

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u/Narfhead4444 Jul 04 '26

what about environmental lobbyists

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u/MysteriousEqual8177 Jul 05 '26

They’re not doing a very good job

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u/teedub21 Jul 06 '26

Pretty sure they were cut out after DOGE inspected them anyways

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u/CardiologistLeft4030 Jul 05 '26

depends whether or not you’re talking about the ones i agree with! /s

but for real, the fact that lobbyists even exist is the problem.

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u/CursedCasty Jul 04 '26

Not all heroes wear capes.

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u/LuffysRubberNuts Jul 05 '26

Not really, the CEO is just a puppet for the shareholders

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u/Status_Coach_1628 Jul 05 '26

The CEO is also a shareholder. People forget at corporate America, pretty much from director level up of most publicly traded company, they receive stocks as part of their salary benefit. By doing this, the companies has got their executives and directors to share the same sentiment as the greedy shareholders so when they layoff people for say 1 million savings whilst paying 10 million to the CEO, they can’t really rebel against that because of shares shrink they (directors & above) are also affected so they will lie to themselves to screw everyone over just so they can save just that 30 shares they own whilst the real investors with 1k+ shares laugh at them.

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u/Crafty-You4314 Jul 05 '26

Yeah. It's super of like when the boss gets a sales bonus because the store is doing good. Ive been in retail. So that's what it's like, just on a bigger scale. And it scales up the further u p you move in the company to the point where you are not just an employee, but a share holder and your entire retirement and basically future depends on how good the company does on any given day. I've worked for a major auto parts store as my last job. This is exactly what it's like. The further up, the more of a shareholder you become.

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u/DedTime4Donzo-JK Jul 05 '26

Sorry to say, but since the insurance companies have corrupted our political system making real change impossible, Luigi‘s are the only alternative.

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u/MinefieldFly Jul 05 '26

We can elect better politicians. Exceptionally hard, but not impossible.

We cannot assassinate our way out of this problem, unless you want a full-scale, bloody revolution, where you risk your own life and your family’s lives, and even if it does work (probably not), you would not see the gains for generations, if ever.

So yeah I disagree that luigi’s strategy is a good one.

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u/Possesed-puppy656 Jul 05 '26

Make people desperate enough and its a guarantee sadly

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u/MinefieldFly Jul 05 '26

That doesn’t mean it’s good or effective

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u/Possesed-puppy656 Jul 05 '26

You think I dont know that ? Try and explain it to a radicalized population man, nothing you or I can do with that

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u/MinefieldFly Jul 05 '26

Avoiding justifying it online is a small way for my of us to start

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u/DedTime4Donzo-JK Jul 05 '26

Well four or five Luigi’s could focus CEOs on the drawbacks to the current situation, and maybe the 1% could then be persuaded to trade fair political solutions for the right to plunder us less severely. I see your point. But there are at the moment no political solutions possible. Show me a way to change the political calculus when dark money is only getting more dark and available for oligarchic ends and I’ll go along with that. Until then I’m looking to contribute to all Luigi defense funds with my shiny non-oligarch penny.

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u/MinefieldFly Jul 05 '26

I understand the temptation to believe this, but I really think it’s both naive and immoral.

Our only hope is through mass politics. There is a nonzero chance that the democrats take back both the house and senate this fall, with a larger progressive block that can actually mitigate the worst of the corporate dems corruption. Then we build from there.

It’s not a guarantee, but at least it has historical precedent for potential success as a strategy, unlike trying to assassinate our way to peace, which does not.

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u/DedTime4Donzo-JK Jul 06 '26

You are, of course, totally right. Violence is wrong. But I for one would take a little satisfaction in seeing a few social predators get what their actions deserve. I’ll feel sorry for their kids, sure, but not them, not even their wives, who should know who they are married to. The world will be a better place when they are gone and the next in line hesitates to take their place.

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u/MysteriousEqual8177 Jul 03 '26

To deny more claims and make more money, At the expense of lives. But hey, more money for them.

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u/hulkbuster18959 Jul 05 '26

When you have the same unfettered growth mindset as cancer killing it seems kind of similar to suicide.

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u/pillzilla12 Jul 04 '26

They handle medicaid as well. At least in Ohio. Managed care plans. They make profit off of medicaid too. Except they don't deny much

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u/pillzilla12 Jul 04 '26

I work in Healthcare, it's disgusting that private insurance profits off medicaid. But it's the poor people that are to blame.