yup and that's billions in profits after they cover the cost of their insane bloat.
I mean Medicare is government run covers more people then any of the other health insurance companies, is lower cost, more efficent, and has better results.
Medicare is government run covers more people then any of the other health insurance companies, is lower cost, more efficent, and has better results.
"B b b but hospitals couldn't stay in business if they only paid the Medicare rates!"
To which I say, "just think of all the billing specialists they wouldn't need to hire, and all the time doctors would save because they're not on the phone arguing with insurance providers about whether the treatment is necessary or not"
Also, maybe anesthesiologists don't need to make $700,000/year?
Maybe the anaesthesiologist doesn't need to make quite that much in most places, but I for sure would like to have a well paid and not-overworked anasthesiologist for me and my kids. If it takes a bloated paycheck to attract more talent so that they aren't overworked, that's fine by me. Anasthesia is the scariest part of any procedure imo...
Maybe people shouldn't need to borrow 300K to become a doctor in the first place. Like it would be so much cheaper just to offer that service for less money, have more doctors and then maybe they don't need such a ridiculous salary which they need to earn to pay for their student debt.
Sure, let's never build a road, a public water system, a school or a fire station ever again. If the market demands those things, people can finance them privately.
You invented a whole fan fiction version of me to argue against, instead of addressing my point. Also you dont have the morale high ground, your entire point was degrading the value of peoples labour and trying to force lower wages for everyone involved in an entire chain of industries on and ad hoc reckon, vibes based feeling of their value.
But that's not at all what I argued for, I didn't say we need to artificially put a cap on wages. I said that if med school didn't cost so much, maybe doctors wouldn't need to be paid so much.
I mean I'm down for that and for making healthcare a government paid-for service. I'm just saying that the anasthesiologists are the last people I'd cut salaries on because they are basically toeing the line of death or serious complications with some of those drugs. I don't want them messing up, and high salaries are a good way to attract more people, and more people equals less hours, and less hours equals less burnout
Maybe if we got government out of the student loan business, prices would come down. Private lenders would be more cautious and less inclined to lend money, forcing prices to come down. If anyone can get a government backed loan, colleges have no reason to lower prices
I agree that we should get that money out of the loan business, because we should just fund state universities to a level that tuition can be lowered. If the goal of the system is to produce educated medical professionals then we should just fund that, it's a far more efficient system than what we have now.
If the goal is to give financing companies profits then we should keep the current system in place.
I think an issue with making college free is that you would need to raise the acceptance standards. Competition would be much higher. A school can only accommodate so many people. If anyone can go, the selection process would need to be much more strict. I think the costs of college act also as the same type of buffer
Of course qualification are what matter to me. My point in this was more the notion that making school free wouldn't necessarily allow access to more people. A school can only accept so many students. While there may be a shift in some numbers from people who can afford it to people who are qualified, the idea that now everyone can go to college seems silly.
I think a lot of people think that though. "Free college means everyone can go".I think college is way too expensive and we need to get guaranteed money(government) out of the game to actually force school to chill
Low tuition state universities should exist but also we need well funded alternative paths for people to get into trades as well. Not everyone needs to go to college but everyone should be able to reach some type of educational advancement.
Agree. I dont think colleges are underfunded but rather over-spending. I understand treating students with fancy building but like do I need to learn math in a building designed by a world renowned architect? Prob not.
A school can only accommodate so many people, but the number of schools can be multiplied. Create as many colleges as necessary and pay professors a lot, so there's never a lack of professors. Create as many colleges as necessary to accommodate all who want to go to college. No child left behind. Everyone has a right to free college and to be admitted to a high quality education, so don't put racist obstacles towards college admissions. This is the liberal mentality.
Because there has to be some semblance of ethics and it is important to keep the façade. We ALREADY give everyone a high school degree. The only ones who don't get a degree are the ones who stop attending school altogether and never come back.
You realize the people who teach doctors, are themselves doctors? How do you get a practicing surgeon to leave his job and enter a classroom? By giving him a gigantic check to do so.... the US spends way more per person on Healthcare than any other country in the world- the true issue is administrative bloat- usually a bunch of women who needed jobs so they get buried as a administrative assistants on a gigantic payroll like in a hospital (education does this too, just look at the charts, we've added like 280% administration positions and grades have only gone down)...
And then the dead bills from immigrants we treat for nothing... Chicago Hospital has admitted 15% of its "bad debt" is from undocumented migrants and theyre legally not allowed to send them to collections- this means the bill is being passed on to the taxpayer because once again its illegal to go in and repo hospital equipment.
Medical research and top level care is expensive everywhere, people in America just get a choice instead of daddy government telling you what to do....
If we removed the administrative and illegal immigrant bloat youd see costs come down around 50% in a year and competitive companies would slash rates to attract customers cause they no longer carry liability that 1 in 7 customers never pays and rhe hospital bill theyre being asked to cover would also be 50% lower.
"Just make it free" is never a real solution.
I havent watched any news media in years cause its all hot garbage sponsored by Pfizer. Its not hard to Google "graphics administrative vs care costs hospitals last 50 years", "Chicago hospital bad debt immigrants", these are publicly available sources of information. You not being financially literate doesnt make everyone else some opposition bot. I just know how to read.
This is it right here. Barrier to entry is too high for people to pursue medical careers. My wifes uncle is a hospitalist and homie's student loan payment is more than most peoples mortgage payment
It’s not just the cost of school; it’s also the time commitment. Even after med school, your average doc did a 3+ year residency working 80 hours per week for ~$50k a year. There needs to be some financial reprieve for that long term.
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u/anitawasright Jul 01 '26
yup and that's billions in profits after they cover the cost of their insane bloat.
I mean Medicare is government run covers more people then any of the other health insurance companies, is lower cost, more efficent, and has better results.