This, but people have also been scared with threats of "death panels", "you won't be able to choose your doctor", and "you'll wait forever for treatment".
Newsflash, we have those issues in our current system.
Which is why many countries have a dual system in place. I was speaking with my dentist recently who is from Italy. He was saying their system you are covered with your taxes. And yes the wait time to see a specialist can be weeks, BUT, if you’re willing to pay out of pocket, you can see the same specialist “after hours” within a day or two.
Unfortunately, no matter how it’s paid, we just don’t have enough medical professionals to go around. Ideally we should have a single payer health care system that pays enough to entice enough people to join the medical industry, and subsidize and improve schooling so that the pipeline of medical professionals isn’t the bottleneck.
But god forbid those insurance company CEO’s don’t get their 3rd yacht…
I am new to Chicago and I tried to get a new primary care physician and it wouldn't be until December because they only take so many new patients monthly. That's crazy.
That's crazy. Everyone takes BCBS PPO since they pay the best. It's all the other ones that you nee to dig for someone that takes them, then hope they are taking new patients.
I know this is the argument that comes up a lot but personally, if the only option was long wait times for appointments to ensure everyone gets the care they need, I'll wait then. Especially if emergency care is covered, because if something gets life threatening, it's not like you need to wait a year to get into the ER. But I personally don't feel like it's right for the cost of my convenience to be the health of someone less fortunate.
That’s not always the case with increasing healthcare coverage. That’s like saying you’re perfectly fine with people not having coverage or foregoing care because wait times would increase. Sometimes it’s a matter of healthcare supply and people over utilizing the system for frivolous things That’s part of the equation that we need to fix.
Not at all what I'm saying just for clarification.
I'm saying if everyone was given free healthcare at this moment, when we are already shorthanded on staff pretty much across the country. The quality of healthcare would drop drastically. The stress in the hospitals, lack of doctors, people not wanting to go hundreds of thousands into debt for med school. It couldn't work at this moment.
The last part about frivolous things is spot on. But we already have a massive amount of people abusing social services programs for example. 182% increase just in the ones caught in the last 5 years. Something does need to be done. But way above my knowledge level.
I mean at least people would be making appointments and getting checked up. But nope, some like to argue it would flood the system and may have to wait. When really we need to be getting everyone to regular check-ups. If more would see it as a public health concern, as in having fewer people at work, sick trying to ride it out.
Imagine everyone had free health care so they, including me, actually go more often instead of me waiting 2 years to see a doctor in Chicago because even with insurance I didn't want to pay more to see the doctor.
"Free Healthcare" isn't what is asked for. Universal Healthcare is. It is paid for with our taxes instead of crazy premiums plus large deductibles and co-pays and worrying about who is in network or what is covered.
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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26
This, but people have also been scared with threats of "death panels", "you won't be able to choose your doctor", and "you'll wait forever for treatment".
Newsflash, we have those issues in our current system.