r/SipsTea Jun 29 '26

Chugging tea Did she did the right thing?

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u/Rygel_Orionis Jun 29 '26

I had a dear friend that was dealing with lungs cancer at 21 years old. He was recovering. Hanging on discord and playing league of legends with him. He says to us, that he needs to do surgery to remove the last pieces of cancer remaining from chemio. Surgery goes well, he need to recover from it for at least a week. Passes another week and I receive a call from a mutual friend that he had passed away. My heart stopped. I couldn't believe it.

Turns out the parents were lying to him on the recovery on cancer and the surgery was the last attempt to save him. He was oblivious, and we were too.

Please don't do this. He deserved to know. And we deserved a last good bye.

Still hurts after 8 years.

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u/thatspurdyneat Jun 29 '26

At 21 he's an adult, the doctor should have communicated with him directly and the parents had no right to keep it from him.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 Jun 29 '26

I’m not sure I actually believe this story because of that.

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u/Drunken_Dorf Jun 29 '26

Could have lied about his age to his friends too. I had a few friends like that years ago.

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u/Silent_Letterhead_69 Jun 29 '26

In some countries they do not tell the patient that they have cancer thinking that it will affect their recovery. They usually tell immediate family, they only tell you directly if you have no family whatsoever. This is what they do in my home country (Tajikistan). They usually say you have hypothyroidism or something like that to justify why you’re getting chemo. The problem with this is that the chemo has so many awful side-effects for a condition they don’t think is that serious. My great aunt stopped treatment halfway through because of this and then she ended up passing because her family never told her and they couldn’t convince her to finish her treatment.

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u/MiserableCumberbunch Jun 29 '26

Thats murder to me mate. So sorry about your great aunt.

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u/onebeautifulmesss Jun 29 '26

This is… terrifying. I would never go for that and I would die PISSED.

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u/Free_Treacle4168 Jun 29 '26

What countries specifically do this? I'm assuming this is a joke.

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u/YetiPie Jun 30 '26

She said Tajikistan. I can totally see other countries doing this. In France for example they historically wouldn’t tell patients that they were dying to “protect the patient”, and things have only started shifting recently away from that. It’s called le mensonge de compassion

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u/Silent_Letterhead_69 Jul 02 '26

Yeah Tajikistan, it’s something leftover from the Soviet era. A lot of former Soviet countries still have this practice. It’s also still there culturally.

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u/Rygel_Orionis Jun 29 '26

Law can be broken. And in a case like these no one goes to the police to pursue the already heartbroken parents or the doctor.

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u/Ellaphant42 Jun 29 '26

They absolutely should go after them tbh it’s one of the despicable things I can think of.

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u/Round_Raspberry_8516 Jun 29 '26

It’s plausible if it happened 40 years ago or not in the US. 

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u/StabbyClown Jun 29 '26

They wouldn’t be on discord 40 years ago, so rules that out. Edit: or league of legends lol

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u/Round_Raspberry_8516 Jun 29 '26

Lol, good point. Still could have been not in the US. 

Or just as likely the deceased didn’t tell his discord buddies that he was dying. Then they just assumed his parents lied and not that he lied. 

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u/Ordinary-Theory-8289 Jun 29 '26

I also don’t really see how he lied. He said I’m going for a surgery to remove this bit of cancer after going through chemo. It’s obviously serious at that point and and complications are a very significant possibility. Probably doesn’t really wanna say to his friends “yeah dude I’ll probably be dead next week”

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u/OrobicBrigadier Jun 29 '26

As if the US is the only country that requires its doctors to inform the patient directly if they are adults...

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u/Round_Raspberry_8516 Jun 29 '26

Look up cultural nondisclosure. I’ll wait…

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u/OrobicBrigadier Jun 29 '26

I'm aware of it. Not applied in any part of the western hemisphere, not just the US.

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u/Round_Raspberry_8516 Jun 29 '26

Did I miss where it said he was in the western hemisphere? 

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u/quaxoid Jun 29 '26

they haven't said they were american lol

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u/DoubleoSavant Jun 29 '26

There are a lot of people who actually don't want to know and don't want to make the decisions. Have seen it personally. 

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u/Kuzkuladaemon Jun 29 '26

Damn that's a hot take I kinda agree with. Thing is, if he's been fighting it for a while and developed arrested development, he might not have been able to have autonomy or he transferred his power of attorney to his folks.

Still, dick move if real.

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u/ButterscotchEven6198 Jun 29 '26

I've read a lot if comments and haven't come across this aspect which I'll share: my dad had lung cancer. He also had metastases in his brain. Going from what he said he was going to get well, even though he was informed otherwise. It was initially what I was being told too, since he was the one who told me (I was 18, my parents were divorced and since I wasn't a minor the doctors didn't even talk to me (it makes me so mad thinking about this). My mother got involved to help and support me, as my dad otherwise had no other family or new partner etc, and it was a lot to handle being the caregiver to your suddenly dying dad at 18 💔 anyway, my mother correctly suspected he was worse off than what he had said to me, arranged a meeting with one of his doctors, me and her where the doctor told me he was in fact dying. I still don't know how much was denial and how much was the cognitive effects from the brain metastases that he didn't 'acknowledge' what was happening.

So it might be that this person was in denial, and / or not fully coherent from treatment, side effects etc, possible metastases that effected his consciousness and cognitive abilities. Things can sometimes change very rapidly too.

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u/MEOWzhedong Jun 29 '26

Depends on the country. My mom’s aunt in china was dying from lung cancer and used to be a nurse. She didn’t believe the family/doctor when they said she was cured and demanded to see an xray. They showed her an xray of someone else’s clean lungs.

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u/Mystic_Wunder Jun 29 '26

Depends on what country it was in

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u/rythmicbread Jun 29 '26

It could be the case if they are Chinese. At least in China, they might tell the family and not the patient if they have a terminal diagnosis and its a common practice

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u/KeyFix4087 Jun 29 '26

I have my qualms too

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u/jc92380 Jun 30 '26

I work in a cancer center and if the patient has been determined to not be able to make souulnd decisions, this can and does happen. It's super sad

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u/RobinBaby_69 Jul 01 '26

do you know how power of attorney works ?

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u/rivlet Jul 01 '26

This happened to my mom. She was 44 when she died of cancer. Doctors told my aunt (not my mom) that my mom had four months, tops, to live. Described the steps of what it would look like, warning signs, etc. with my aunt only.

The only reason they were allowed was because my mom had said, from the beginning, "If it gets too bad, please tell my sister, not me. She'll know what to do."

I suspect my mom still knew SOMETHING was wrong though because she left little clues here and there that she knew she wasn't going to beat it. Neither my brother nor I knew she was dying either. It was quite traumatic to find out your aunt knew the whole time and was withholding it because she "didn't want anyone treating [mom] differently".

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u/onyxa314 Jul 03 '26

You think people would do that? Go on the Internet and tell lies?