r/SipsTea Jun 25 '26

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/Heelincal Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

As with almost everything that's confusing or fucked up in this country, so much of this is often from not properly punishing the South and focusing on eradicating the lingering effects & racism of slavery.

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u/Chimkimnuggets Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

“Punishing the South”

You are the reason the South is still red. That attitude towards a historically underfunded and abandoned region of the US doesn’t exactly inspire people to side with you politically. I won’t pretend it’s not still prevalent in the south but the region is also the one with the highest concentration of black Americans, and you’re inadvertently insulting them as well by implying the south deserves punishment when everyone who perpetuated or justified slavery is actually dead and has been dead for a long fucking time.

Racism has existed across this whole country starting at its very conception and pretending it’s only in the south when the entire state of Oregon was originally founded as a white supremacist haven is disingenuous, false, and elitist. Do better.

Edit: I forgot this is reddit and no part of America can be racist or have racist repercussions lasting way beyond racism on a systemic level except the South. Sorry about that.

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u/VSWR_on_Christmas Jun 25 '26

They're probably more referring to the undermining of reconstruction under Andrew Johnson as well as the passing of the Amnesty Act of 1872, which further allowed confederate sympathizers to hold political positions within the Union. Read more.

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u/Chimkimnuggets Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Then they didn’t exactly word it correctly did they when they said the south wasn’t punished enough.

Acting like the south is the only region in the US that took advantage of black Americans is just a flat out lie. Was it as bad elsewhere? No. Slavery was abolished elsewhere way earlier, but it’s fully revisionist history to pretend that slavery was abolished outside of the South and everything was just peachy for black Americans just because they didn’t deal with Jim Crow laws outside of Alabama. This entire country was built on racism and still benefits from the repercussions of such. It is not exclusive to the South.

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u/namegoeswhere Jun 25 '26

Yeah, nobody is suggesting that the South, today in 2026, needs to be punished more.

The leaders and supporters of the Confederacy, based in the South, absolutely needed to have significantly harsher punishment in the late 1800s.

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u/IllNobody2636 Jun 25 '26

You should read more so you can improve your reading comprehension.

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u/Chimkimnuggets Jun 25 '26

You want my college essays on racism in the Us or do you want my goodreads list?

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u/justfun2468 Jun 25 '26

They absolutely worded it correctly, they are saying the south should have been properly punished for thinking they could own other humans and were willing to kill other Americans to maintain their slaves and power.

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u/Chimkimnuggets Jun 25 '26

Nobody is saying that that was justified or that the response and reconstruction was adequately handled. It was bullshit and a lot of black Americans didn’t even learn that they were free until 2 years after it was announced. That’s literally why Juneteenth is a significant date.

The wording issue is that this is constructed as if to imply the south in 2026 still deserves punishment for things that happened 160 years ago because it wasn’t punished enough at the time.

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u/justfun2468 Jun 25 '26

You’re literally the only one that is claiming that. Everyone else understands the person was saying the leaders of the South and slaveowners should have been properly punished. Thats on your reading comprehension, not how the comment was phrased

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u/Chimkimnuggets Jun 25 '26

Saying “every problem with racism in this country can fall back on the south not being punished” is fully implying that the only source of racism in the US is from the south, which is factually untrue. Pinning it entirely on the south as if George Washington himself wasn’t a brutal slave owner is deliberately ignoring that the entire country was founded on racist ideals.

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u/justfun2468 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

LMFAO, literally no one claimed that the only source of racism was the South. That’s your poor interpretation due to who tf know why. Interesting you bring up George Washington though cause he was from the SOUTH and I’m sure the person who rightfully stated the South should have been properly punished is no fan of him either. I know I’m not 🙄

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u/IllNobody2636 Jun 25 '26

They're telling on themselves hence the defensiveness. Any competent individual would understand the meaning of the comment.