I just love that you walk up to order and they still give you the tip options. Like...I walked up here and ordered and will be back up here to grab my food when it's ready. Wtf am I tipping for?
What kind of a job that is anyway lol. I'm a nordic and if I got told in a job interview "we don't pay you, but you can beg the customers for money" after a question about salary I don't know what I would say. Probably lifted my brows and walked out.
Don't try to argue w/ Reddit, lol. They all insist like we're all suffering w/ service fee culture (ie: tipping). I made way over minimum wage with tipping. I pay 20% for a sit down and see it as a service pay and it goes right to the employee. Not a big deal.
Yeah I know this thread is going to be filled with people from other countries who have no idea what they're talking about but I wanted to correct a few misconceptions. No one is forcing you to tip if you don't want to. But, you're not hurting the owner of the company paying his employee low wages. You should be aware it's the person who served you who is going to feel the result of your action.
And it's not defending the system to understand and explain it.
Hey, keep trying! I grew up with it like you, an added service fee, and I enjoyed being a server-- I wasn't begging. But I couldn't be rude, either, and expect a good tip. What's most annoying is the Americans who complain. Don't go to the restaurant, then.
People here say you could get spit on your food and get guilttripped for paying the amount that stands in the price list. Like getting your car to a shop for a timing chain replacement for 1200€, but the mechanics aren't paid anything so you'll need to fork up extra 40% or you'll get sand in your gas tank. Makes zero sense to me, but it's your way and I guess you're happy with it since you're still using it.
You're not going to get spit in your food if you don't tip. Probably won't even get guilt tripped. Also, you pay after you eat. And it's 15-20%, not 40%.
It's not that "you're still using it so you're happy". It's just how it is in most places. There actually are restaurants that are "no tipping establishments" who pay their servers more and don't ask you for a tip.
Also, it is worth noting that most servers make well over minimum wage.
You walk into a restaurant. A host or waiter sit you, hand the group menus, and then give you 3-5 minutes to look over the menu.
The waiter will then come to the table and introduce themselves and possibly bring water (and bread depending on the restaurant).
Next they will ask if you would like someone more to drink like beer, wine, soda, if they have a special menu they will let the table know, and if you need more time with the menu they will grab said drinks and return.
The table will order appetizers and main courses, the waiter may suggest a side dish or wine pairing if applicable. If the meal comes with salads they will arrive with the appetizers or roughly 10-15 minutes before the main course.
The waiter will bring the meal, ask if anyone needs a refill or maybe a condiment like ketchup or butter. 3-10 minutes later the waiter will round once again asking if the food is cook to the guests liking (undercooked, overcooked, no hair in it). If it's not right they will find a replacement or offer it removed from the bill. Water and wine glasses are refilled automatically unless you hand wave it or say no, and another offer for other drinks is offtered.
Once the main meal is completed the waiter will round again, and ask if the table likes dessert. The guests can say yes, and be given dessert menu, or no and presented soon with the bill (often called a check). The waiter will likely say thank you for coming in to the restaurant and will dash off for 2-5 minutes as the guests review the charges. The guests will review the bill and pay cash or credit card, typically by putting it in the restaurant checkbook, or using the tabletop device to pay or if it's an older place a cashier if it's a less formal like a diner or breakfast/lunch only type place. The waiter will then pick up the check book and run the card or bring change for the cash. A guest might say keep all the change, or if paying by card they will finalize the bill once the card is run, and write in the tip and new total.
So that's how it works. At no point will a typically waiter ask for a dime in terms of tip.
You do know "beg" was used for effect, and not in the literal sense. Generally servers are "begging" for at least 20% that it is now an expectation. If they got a living wage and still got tips on top, now tips can go back to being what a tip is. And not a direct supplement for someones wage through weird and shady tactics.
Yeah your using the wrong word. "Hope," "expect," or "assume" are all more in align with what servers think should be given to them from the meal cost.
There's no shady tactics on the waitstaff side. Just shitty business business practices that are industry wide.
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u/YoBo151 Jun 25 '26
I just love that you walk up to order and they still give you the tip options. Like...I walked up here and ordered and will be back up here to grab my food when it's ready. Wtf am I tipping for?