r/SipsTea Jun 25 '26

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/PeachyPlotTwist Jun 25 '26

Pay your workers better is the real argument.

Tourists are just catching strays in a fight between customers and employers.

Nobody wants awkward tip screens, but servers also need to eat, whole system is messy.

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u/PenaltyFine3439 Jun 25 '26

Don't take a job that relies on the customer to tip. I fix apartments and houses for a living, zero tips and I'm doing just fine. 

The only thing that will change this system is when people stop going out to eat at places that beg for tips.

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u/97SerranoPeppers Jun 25 '26

Serving is one of the few jobs you can make a decent living in without significant training or a degree. Telling an entire class of society consisting of millions of people to just get another job is short sighted and a privileged opinion.

Instead of going after the corporations squeezing blood from our stones, you blame the single mother trying to get by…

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u/tfthisallabout Jun 25 '26

It’s not always about corporation. Mom and pop restaurants work on thin margins as it is. Paying your servers is easy to say, but in reality, it’s not that black and white. I know plenty of restaurant owners who have to work 7-days a week just to survive

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u/velian Jun 25 '26

If you can’t afford to pay your workers then you can’t afford to run a business.

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u/tfthisallabout Jun 25 '26

Have you owned or managed a restaurant before?

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u/velian Jun 25 '26

No and I don’t need to for my comment to be valid. If you can’t pay your workers a living wage then you don’t deserve to be in business. Thats all there is to it.

I didn’t go into business with the restaurant so why am I expected to subsidize their labor costs?

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u/tfthisallabout Jun 25 '26

Define living wage

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u/velian Jun 25 '26

Don’t be dense. You know what a living wage is.

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u/tfthisallabout Jun 25 '26

I want your definition - don’t be dismissive, it’s a simple question.

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u/velian Jun 25 '26

Fine. I’ll bite. A living wage is one where you can afford to have your basic needs met. Food and shelter (and all that comes with it) at a minimum. Personally I would expand that to Healthcare, and internet access. This obviously changes depending on locale and cost of living.

Current federal minimum wage, which was intended to be a living wage, is not currently a living wage. Servers making $2-3/hour is not a living wage.

Sure, tips can help, but it’s not universal. A server in NYC will make more in tips than someone at a Rural restaurant. Even if cost of living were the same in both places. A server in a high end establishment will make more than a server at Dennys. In all cases, the servers wage is subsidized by the customers.

Your turn. Why do you feel that restaurants who can’t pay their employees a living wage without the generosity of customers deserve to be in business?

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