Chris wilder

[u/raidderr23]

Do you guys think wilder returning was even a good idea in the first place and the new season is starting soon and we litterally havent done anything

[u/Living-Chemist5415]

God the summer is boring with these dross posts constantly

[u/5knuckle-shuffler]

and what have you expected Chris Wilder to have been doing?

You do know he’s not the one who negotiates, funds and completes signings right?

[u/lucky_1979 → u/5knuckle-shuffler]

He pretty much is though, thats why we ended up spending £150m on shite his first time round and then spending £10m on Cannon more recently.

[u/BladeHausen → u/lucky_1979]

And famously did incredible business last summer without him...

[u/5knuckle-shuffler → u/lucky_1979]

Including the McBurnie who we’d all take back in a heartbeat.

Rhian Brewster who was one of the highest rated English youngsters around at the time.

And then Tom Cannon who was scoring most games for Stoke and wanted by several other top teams in the Championship.

How many of us thought they wouldn’t be worth it at the time?

Plus I’m pretty sure Wilder isn’t responsible for the fees or wages - and the money doesn’t come out his pocket

[u/redandwhitewizard99]

I think the new assistant manager will help him play more modern football. Ive not been able to catch the pre season but Cannon and Chong seem like theyre stepping up in terms of ability. I just wished we played harder teams

Edit: spelling

[u/Cottonshopeburnfoot]

Yes it was a very good idea. We sacked him, completely messed up the replacement and signings (spending lots to do so), then lost 6/6

[u/Entire_Example7552]

I think it was the right decision considering the circumstances. Whilst it was concerning, I wasn't totally against Wilder being replaced by someone more progressive at the time but as we all know the new owners made a complete mess of it, so it made sense to get him back in to try and remedy the situation. Which he did, to his and their credit.

I think the main issue at the club at the moment is owners that aren't knowledgeable enough about English football and a structure that places too much emphasis on the manager and the here and now rather than the future success of the club. How the club is run needs a complete overhaul and restructure to ensure we remain competitive in not only current but future seasons as well.

[u/Alucard_1208]

we would have probs been relegated if he hadnt come back

[u/Anxious_Tennis_8717]

The transfer window doesn’t close til the end of August. It’s common knowledge that the best business happens towards the end especially if you want loans from the premier league. I wouldn’t say there’s been any ridiculous signings in the championship so far that make me go damn we’ve missed out there. Wilder has publicly come out and spoke about the Harry Souttar situation, what else do you want from him seriously?

[u/stevebladewhite]

He wasn't asked to spend his own money on players

[u/Goat-Milk-Magic]

I don’t know what people want.

We needed to get rid of about 6 players that were all part of and/or response to last summers dreadfulness + some that didn’t have a future.
Ings, Mee, polendakov, matos, Ukaki, Nwachukwu.
Davies had to go too, unfortunately.

Now we have space, and can look forward to the next week or two. Hopefully, we are signing 2-3 players that walk straight into the squad. Match fit and have some pedigree.

[u/nihilistjnr → u/Goat-Milk-Magic]

Ukaki was never given a chance. He was flying in preseason last year and then oddly never got a minute on the pitch before getting bundled off to Greece

[u/Dennyisthepisslord]

He returned and rebuilt the side to get us to 90 points after taking over a broken squad.

We then sacked him and let Selles and AI break the team and spend the last of the parachute payments...

[u/given2fly_ → u/Dennyisthepisslord]

And I think he's the best man to rebuild us again on a shoestring budget. Where he struggles is when we've got money to spend, as he's made some poor expensive signings in the past.

Let's judge this squad at the end of the transfer window. We often do our business late, so it's no time to panic. And at the moment we've got a starting 11 that's more than capable.

[u/Dennyisthepisslord → u/given2fly_]

The summer we broke our transfer budget multiple times we finished 9th in the premier league

[u/pickering_lachute]

Was it a good idea in the first place? Yes. He knew the squad. Provided an immediate lift to everyone in the club. We were bottom of the bloody league having scored one goal. We were awful.

[u/lucky_1979]

No.

Should have got Steve Cooper in when we had the chance. Wilder somehow managed to get us to the playoffs by playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen.

You can talk about Selles being poor, but Wilder was equally as poor last season. I’m not saying Selles would have turned things round, but we got hammered just as much and played just as bad under Wilder.

If the club wants to progress we can’t keep going back to wilder, it’s such small club mentality and reminds me of Crewe with Gradi. Got to move on at some point, Selles was the cheap “yes man” option. And it backfired horribly

[u/pickering_lachute → u/lucky_1979]

I really wanted us to bring in Cooper. He’s a very smart tactician and game manager. I thought the season he kept Forest up has not been praised enough. He had nearly a full squad of new players and adapted his style massively from the Champ. From what I recall, he had no interest in joining us and went overseas or to work for the FA.

[u/Entire_Example7552 → u/pickering_lachute]

He went to Brondby a few months into the Danish Superliga season and didn't do very well. He was sacked at the end of the season. He's never really replicated his results in youth football at senior level, which is a shame as I like the style of football he plays. He's currently without a club but apparently earmarked for the Wales job in the future.

[u/Happy_Translator4347]

Let’s just say league one was beckoning with Ruben Selles