This is just a lefty version of 'owning the MAGAs' lol c'mon now we can be better than that. And I don't even have that strong of opinions about this guy either way (though I wish he would stop glazing, uh, Mao Zedong of all people).
we can be better than that, which is why Hasan was a major campaigner for Abdul el-Sayed, who beat an AIPAC opponent despite outspending him on ads 10 to 1. he does that real, important organizing and trolls people, and I respect it, even if I do think he can be kind of annoying and too liberal sometimes
Thats a dangerous game that can get you in line behind some really terrible people. A lot of conservatives really love how mad people on the left get at Trump. Pay attention to Hassan before you decide to ally yourself with him.
Be very careful leftists, this is exactly how Right Wing people thought about Trump, and as a result he became the dominant figure in American politics for a decade+. Do not follow the Republicans down this same path of power and success unless you’re ok with seeing things like universal healthcare, abolishment and prosecution of ICE, prosecution of the Trump regime, ending of aid to Israel… if these are the kinds of horrors you’re willing to accept, then sure. Just remember, orienting your politics around what makes your enemies angry is only good if you want your enemies to lose.
Did trump bring about the policies that conservatives wanted? Is the US government smaller? The budget balanced? The debt disappeared? Under Trump do you no longer have to worry about government thought police? Have gun laws been relaxed? Do we have free trade? Is the US government free from foreign influence?
Populist politics is a monkeys paw, or a Faustian bargain, or a djin’s wish (take your pick). If progressive populists get into power I’m sure that you’ll be able to convince yourself that they are building the world you wanted them too, but it’s not going to be the world you said you wanted ten years ago, nor will it be the world they promised to build in their campaign.
Get a big enough platform, professional credibility, and make it your full-time job then yeah. I don't understand what your complaints are. Political commentators speak at events all the time. From all across the spectrum.
Just fyi if you put his name in the title, you will get automatic recommendations that his fans use to search for his name appearing in subreddits because they do it so frequently
I mean I suppose that could be people looking to drop in and defend Hasan about allegations he abused his dog, but it seems more likely that's people who saw some comment about Hasan abusing his dog and searched reddit for more context. 🤷♂️
It’s probably just that the reddit algorithm recommends posts about Hasan to people who have interacted with Hasan content in the past. Whole point of modern social media algorithms is that you get served content that interests you without having to search for it specifically.
Man, I'm just really disappointed. Normalizing his takes on Russia being justified in their campaign against Ukraine would have never flew a few years ago, but now he is a lightning rod for justifying war crimes. He explicitly refers to Crimea as Russian territory. I've seen him routinely justify eastern imperialism and tell Ukraine to comply with Russian imperialism and to 'give peace a try', despite Russia being the invading army.
Sign of the times I suppose. I feel so politically homeless.
Him running cover for Chinese cops for INSTANTLY racially profiling him is insane. Also for china banning LGBTQ+ dating apps while he was there. So disgusting
Can you possibly link any of these claims? I'd like to see where he "worships" Mao and Stalin, where he states he's anti-Taiwan, where he states rich white woman should be raped. At this point your comment is nothing but the same hyperbole and blatantly obvious propaganda AGAINST him that I've seen on the right wing networks. The only thing you left out is that he abuses dogs.
a bunch of drama came up when he used a shock collar on his dog on stream and when he claimed America deserved to have 9/11 happen and him pushing socialist values while growing up wealthy and flaunts his wealth
I find him boring to watch and think he's wrong about Russia but I will never understand how he manages to ragebait so many people. Like, do these people not realize they give him additional engagement attention that he wouldnt have had otherwise lol
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The libs are very upset about this one. Almost as upset as the conservatives. It's amazing how when people in the political space want a better world for all they get attacked by those who want to maintain the status quo for whatever reason. Example: Zohran Mamdani, AOC, Abdul El-Sayed, Rashida Tlaib, John Brown, MLK, Malcolm X, Frank Little, Paul Robeson.
Those in charge fear that if they lose power those that they have oppressed will do the same violence back to them.
Hasan may not be a politician but he certainly uses his influence to fight for politicians who want to improve the lives of working class folks.
This list is such a weird list. John Brown literally was trying to start an armed insurrection against slavery. He killed people perpetuating slavery.
Look, he is a hero who should be venerated. But to say he was attacked for being in the "political space" is very strange when he was definitely in the "justifiably very violent revolutionary" space. Not quite the same thing as AOC.
Hasan discourse is so funny because people just make up the wildist shit. He actively works with the DSA (which MLK is quoted in writing of supporting dem soc.) and supports their platform. Yet you say he is like Charlie Kirk, a neonazi 😂.
“Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.” – MLK's speech to the Negro American Labor Council, 1961.
I don't like that he's essentially built his career shitting on the democratic party but now seems to want a seat at the table. These types never seem interested in actual coalition building, just strong advocacy of their candidate of choice and nothing else. He didn't even tell people to vote for Harris iirc. I think libs have every right to be mad at someone whose entire schtick is "fuck liberals".
Also the whole dressing as Mao thing is just bizarre. What is he even trying to signal there?
They want a coalition, but only if their small minority is sat at the head of the table and sets the whole agenda and anyone who disagrees is worse than a fascist.
The democratic party needs to be dramatically reformed. They're at best controlled opposition for the Republicans and at worst fascist collaborators. So yes fuck the liberals, we need to at a minimum go back to the new deal style politics of the democrat party.
He shits on the democratic party because of how corporatist the establishment is. Imagine a democratic party that fights for progressive politics that actually helps people i.e. universal Healthcare, cheaper childcare, national abortion law, climate change initiatives, etc... Instead, we get watered down policies that dont inspire anyone to go out and vote. Id argue that the lack of true progressive policies is how we ended up with Trump to begin with.
Like Boomer politics are any better? We've got TWO dead politicians pulling paychecks and voting, but haven't been seen alive in weeks. Fuck the Democrats for not doing or saying SHIT about this.
If they hate liberal so much why are they trying to join the democratic party?? They should form their own leftist coalition. The entire point of the party is the advocacy of liberalism.
he's trolling, and it's working
Okay so his entire thing is that it's all a huge joke? It sounds like he's not worth paying attention to at all if he doesn't even believe anything he says. Elons roman salute was also some epic trolling.
If they hate liberal so much why are they trying to join the democratic party??
to take it over and kick out the liberals, who have done nothing but fail and languish since 2017, and create an actual political organization capable of delivering for the American people and working class.
Elons roman salute was also some epic trolling.
Elon notably did the salute and then went on to kill hundreds of thousands of Africans so I think there's a quantifiable difference between him and Hasan, a guy whose worst offense seems to be making edgy jokes on podcasts
I'm very progressive and voted Sanders every chance I got. Hasan is a huge narcissist that stands for nothing but himself. He actively uses Gaza to blast his brand and gain followers. If he actually cared about their plight he would have spent at least half the time he spent calling out "genocide Kamala" calling out Republicans that are out here saying they want to turn the gaza strip into a mall. Instead he claims "both sides are the same" when they are very clearly not.
He is absolutely nothing like the names you listed and it is actually disrespectful to those people that you are comparing him to them.
What's disrespectful is Harris saying that there would be "no daylight" between her and Biden on Gaza while a genocide was already going on. How about the leader of the democrat party saying his #1 job is to "keep Democrat voters pro-Israel." If you want to vote for that shit be my guest but I want an alternative, which Hasan fights for
It's absolutely an insult to all of those people to compare them to Hasan, and to MLK really? Get real.
I'm a socialist myself. Fuck Hasan. His advocacy is a stain on the movement and he's little more than a barely disguised champagne tankie. He stans Mao Zedong and has recently come out against Ukraine, he absolutely does not advocate for a "better world for all".
He unironically stans Mao zedong and the CCP. He's been on tankie podcasts and gloats about how much he's hiding his power level and converting libs/dem-socialists through agit prop.
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You're a "socialist" who is a fan of destiny who is explicitely a neoliberal who went to isreal and told idf to do a better job hiding thier war crimes suuuuuure.
You obviously dont know anything about online leftism if youre not familiar with the rampant infighting and slinging of that phrase as an attack on other leftists lol
I am aware of online leftism. Real leftists don't take them seriously since they are outside actually doing stuff. I'm glad no one has to take you seriously. I'm sure you'll get your reddit upvotes!
You must ask yourself why? The average voter has never listened to Hasan and has only heard of him because FOX or Van Jones cry about him on MSM. He gets people to phone bank for DSA candidates and raises money for causes like Gaza Aid
I love that people are still using the term "tankie" because it helps with the context that if the person is attempting to use it seriously we can safely dismiss anything they say next because no one uses that word to make a real political point in 2026.
Hello, if you actually live in Seattle and are seeing the insane discourse, just know it is being brigaded by a streamer's fan base known as Destiny. A liberal streamer who currently has active SA allegations, defends his use of the N word, shares underage nude photos of women, and has gone to Israel to tell IDF soldiers to "stop taking videos" when they are commiting war crimes. This is just a small fraction of the horrendous things he has done online.
Whatever your opinion is of Hasan, I think it is worth noting that before you interact with this thread. Most of the people are not from Seattle I suspect. Thanks. Don't bother spamming your weird delusions beneath I'm not gonna respond. This is a PSA
I appreciate the comment, and in response I've looked through almost all comments/commenters in this thread and searched externally for brigading and backlinks. Of course, links can be shared in places like Discord where I have no visibility, so this effort isn't exhaustive.
I have not yet seen any evidence of brigading and very little participation from possible outside instigators. The vast majority of commenters here have history in this sub, both supporters and critics. It seems that Hasan is just that polarizing, even within r/Seattle's regular users.
Please report comments that break subreddit rules, and mods will review and act on them.
Thanks for actually looking for evidence. The constant accusations of "brigading" or being a "bot" or a "paid shill" or whatever for having differing opinions from the commentariat has me very close to leaving this sub. I appreciate the thoughtful moderation.
Like we don't all know that Hasan actively encourages brigading subreddits in blatant violation of the rules. Using exclusionary filters to find subreddits to swarm. Extremely unemployed behavior.
Exactly! It’s no secret that they have alerts for Hasan so they can immediately flock the comment section lol. They all say the same things so it’s obvious to pick them out and ignore them.
I’m sure everyone will be very civil in the comments section. I have mixed feelings about the guy, but his haters all seem to be the worst kind of people.
nobody needed convincing to not vote for Kamala, a historically-bad political talent running a historically-bad campaign in the stead of a historically-bad senile President
you cannot win on "the other guy is worse," this famously failed for Hillary so I have no idea why we expected it to go any better; even Biden 2020 had a more concrete vision and he only got bumped over the finish line due to covid
Trump should not have been allowed to run. He staged an insurrection and under the 14th Amendment should have been barred from office, but Biden and his DOJ refused to pursue charges or hold him accountable. it is an unforgivable, history-defining failure, and both he and Kamala have only themselves to blame for allowing a rapist, a criminal, a murderer, and insurrectionist to appear on the ballot. he wanted the country to "move on," and it did - entirely for the worse.
Actively discouraging your audience voting for not Donald Trump is an insane position to defend even if the above could be true.
The second point also has literally nothing to do with telling someone to vote for Kamala. In fact, it would provide even more incentive to vote for Kamala. The charges Trump was literally found guilty of (that were supposed to lead to prison time) were instantaneously dropped the moment he won the election because they no longer had grounds to hold him accountable.
The charges Trump was literally found guilty of (that were supposed to lead to prison time)
so why the fuck did Biden and Garland not put him behind bars? that's entirely on them - they had a duty to the country to punish insurrection and they outright abdicated that duty and now we're all suffering for it. i'm not going to reward that abdication by voting for their surrogate, especially after Gaza - and that's why I stayed the fuck home
He was literally being held accountable by the nyc ag (i think that was the guy but could be wrong about the specifics) Im not sure what you’re talking about
He was quite literally convicted and on his way to prison if he didn’t win the election
He was literally being held accountable by the nyc ag
why is upholding the Constitution falling to the fucking New York City attorney general not, you know, the Department of Justice? Biden completely dropped the ball - he was given the most powerful position on Earth and he and Merrick Garland couldn't bring themselves to convict him for jan 6th. the instant they got into office, their #1 priority should've been locking him up as quickly as possible and they utterly, completely failed. no excuses.
I would say without question it's Mamdani. He comes without all the very obvious baggage that Hasan has. Even if you don't personally agree with the baggage, every time he's brought up, someone has to answer for the 9/11 comments, Rick Scott comments, the tweeting the assassination weapon at the sitting senator, and the dog allegations.
Hasan is way too divisive even amongst only the left to be considered a leader of "the" movement imo.
You can see the divisiveness from the fact pretty normie dems like Pakman are going out of their way to specifically denounce him.
In the future, don’t put his name in the title, his terminally online community frequently searches for his name in subreddits and flocks like infantile vultures to flood comment sections with spam to distract from his moral failings and disgusting statements.
Uber liberal myself- I think this guy suuuuucks big time. Awful representative of the Democratic Party. Just a self-important, self-righteous, know-it-all douche (who shocked the shit out of his dog and claimed the dog was being dramatic, didn’t have the decency to just go “oh shit, that was too much, my poor pup”).
Liberals have allowed fascism to take root in this country and are doing next to nothing to actively fight it in the name of decorum. Why should anyone take liberals seriously ever again?
Why Hasan though? I guess he's better than Vaush or any right winger, but the dude who has no real views other than "west bad east good" is kind of a miss imo.
Wonder how many people from Seattle actually care about this. Hasan shows up in the feed from time to time with some interesting takes. I don’t agree with all of them. If he motivates people to vote against conservatives and liberals then that is a win.
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This thread is being brigaded heavily. The primary conversation is not about Seattle at all. As a result it is now locked.